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  3. ACM will no longer require disclosure of the use of #generativeAI in writing papers.... an absolutely terrible change by the @ACM Publications Board to the Policy on Authorship.

ACM will no longer require disclosure of the use of #generativeAI in writing papers.... an absolutely terrible change by the @ACM Publications Board to the Policy on Authorship.

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  • cbecker@hci.socialC cbecker@hci.social

    ACM will no longer require disclosure of the use of #generativeAI in writing papers.... an absolutely terrible change by the @ACM Publications Board to the Policy on Authorship.

    Yes, this will give ACM more papers. No, the ideology of "number go up" productivism is not the path to responsible, ecological or ethical computing, but to irrelevance. #AIslop

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    @cbecker @ACM
    I don't see how the highlighted bit makes sense

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    • cbecker@hci.socialC cbecker@hci.social

      Just last year, the same ACM's late CEO Vicki L. Hanson selected and invited some of us to discuss what computing's responsibility for climate change is and develop guidance for @ACM policy. In the resulting report, we said that "computing’s purpose within a strategy for tackling climate change must be reimagined." (See the report for more.)

      Is ACM going to be part of this reimagination? 🤷‍♂️

      https://drops.dagstuhl.de/entities/document/10.4230/DagMan.11.1.1

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      #5

      What I do know is that these conversations to reimagine computing for ecological and just futures ARE taking place and that people have inspiring ideas, wonderful collaborations and fabulous results to share, including - among others - at #LIMITS2026 in two weeks, proudly independent of ACM and free to attend, everywhere at once 🙂

      https://computingwithinlimits.org/2026/

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      • nyhan@fediscience.orgN nyhan@fediscience.org

        @cbecker @ACM
        I don't see how the highlighted bit makes sense

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        #6

        @nyhan

        oh but we can't possibly be expected to keep track of what we do with our computers when we produce ten papers each week!

        /s

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        • cbecker@hci.socialC cbecker@hci.social

          ACM will no longer require disclosure of the use of #generativeAI in writing papers.... an absolutely terrible change by the @ACM Publications Board to the Policy on Authorship.

          Yes, this will give ACM more papers. No, the ideology of "number go up" productivism is not the path to responsible, ecological or ethical computing, but to irrelevance. #AIslop

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          #7

          @cbecker @ACM

          Damn...now thinking of changing instances. The amount of "AI“ posts I've seen definitely went up over h years, but to give level footing with actual authors? I disaree.

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          • nyhan@fediscience.orgN nyhan@fediscience.org

            @cbecker @ACM
            I don't see how the highlighted bit makes sense

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            #8

            @cbecker @ACM

            How would expecting authors to disclose use of LLMs in their work "limit" their use of AI?

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            • profg@mastodon.acm.orgP profg@mastodon.acm.org

              @cbecker @ACM

              Damn...now thinking of changing instances. The amount of "AI“ posts I've seen definitely went up over h years, but to give level footing with actual authors? I disaree.

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              #9

              @cbecker @ACM

              Related...

              https://mastodon.social/@VeroniqueB99/116728232111465723

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              • cbecker@hci.socialC cbecker@hci.social

                ACM will no longer require disclosure of the use of #generativeAI in writing papers.... an absolutely terrible change by the @ACM Publications Board to the Policy on Authorship.

                Yes, this will give ACM more papers. No, the ideology of "number go up" productivism is not the path to responsible, ecological or ethical computing, but to irrelevance. #AIslop

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                #10

                @cbecker @ACM Suicidal. I wrote for the CACM and for Queue. I'm going to pitch a series to Queue... but I assumed it would be written by humans, from human memory.

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                • cbecker@hci.socialC cbecker@hci.social

                  ACM will no longer require disclosure of the use of #generativeAI in writing papers.... an absolutely terrible change by the @ACM Publications Board to the Policy on Authorship.

                  Yes, this will give ACM more papers. No, the ideology of "number go up" productivism is not the path to responsible, ecological or ethical computing, but to irrelevance. #AIslop

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                  #11

                  @cbecker @ACM And I just read something similar from the APA. I legitimately feel sick 🤮

                  https://apastyle.apa.org/blog/cite-generative-ai-references

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                  • cbecker@hci.socialC cbecker@hci.social

                    ACM will no longer require disclosure of the use of #generativeAI in writing papers.... an absolutely terrible change by the @ACM Publications Board to the Policy on Authorship.

                    Yes, this will give ACM more papers. No, the ideology of "number go up" productivism is not the path to responsible, ecological or ethical computing, but to irrelevance. #AIslop

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                    #12

                    @cbecker @ACM
                    #slopotomy

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                    • cbecker@hci.socialC cbecker@hci.social

                      ACM will no longer require disclosure of the use of #generativeAI in writing papers.... an absolutely terrible change by the @ACM Publications Board to the Policy on Authorship.

                      Yes, this will give ACM more papers. No, the ideology of "number go up" productivism is not the path to responsible, ecological or ethical computing, but to irrelevance. #AIslop

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                      #13

                      @cbecker @ACM
                      Don't worry. Soon most employeers will mandate the use of "a one", as the US education secretary calls it.

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                      • cbecker@hci.socialC cbecker@hci.social

                        ACM will no longer require disclosure of the use of #generativeAI in writing papers.... an absolutely terrible change by the @ACM Publications Board to the Policy on Authorship.

                        Yes, this will give ACM more papers. No, the ideology of "number go up" productivism is not the path to responsible, ecological or ethical computing, but to irrelevance. #AIslop

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                        #14

                        @cbecker @ACM
                        And ACM will reap what it sows

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                        • cbecker@hci.socialC cbecker@hci.social

                          ACM will no longer require disclosure of the use of #generativeAI in writing papers.... an absolutely terrible change by the @ACM Publications Board to the Policy on Authorship.

                          Yes, this will give ACM more papers. No, the ideology of "number go up" productivism is not the path to responsible, ecological or ethical computing, but to irrelevance. #AIslop

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                          #15

                          @cbecker @ACM cc @khinsen

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                          • cbecker@hci.socialC cbecker@hci.social

                            ACM will no longer require disclosure of the use of #generativeAI in writing papers.... an absolutely terrible change by the @ACM Publications Board to the Policy on Authorship.

                            Yes, this will give ACM more papers. No, the ideology of "number go up" productivism is not the path to responsible, ecological or ethical computing, but to irrelevance. #AIslop

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                            #16

                            @cbecker @ACM They were only 15-20 years late to open access, not terribly surprising their understanding of scholarship has not changed.

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                            • cbecker@hci.socialC cbecker@hci.social

                              ACM will no longer require disclosure of the use of #generativeAI in writing papers.... an absolutely terrible change by the @ACM Publications Board to the Policy on Authorship.

                              Yes, this will give ACM more papers. No, the ideology of "number go up" productivism is not the path to responsible, ecological or ethical computing, but to irrelevance. #AIslop

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                              #17

                              @cbecker @ACM After about 20 years or so, it might be time to cancel my membership.

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                              • cbecker@hci.socialC cbecker@hci.social

                                ACM will no longer require disclosure of the use of #generativeAI in writing papers.... an absolutely terrible change by the @ACM Publications Board to the Policy on Authorship.

                                Yes, this will give ACM more papers. No, the ideology of "number go up" productivism is not the path to responsible, ecological or ethical computing, but to irrelevance. #AIslop

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                                #18

                                @ACM @cbecker "AI" collaboration machinery?

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                                • cbecker@hci.socialC cbecker@hci.social

                                  ACM will no longer require disclosure of the use of #generativeAI in writing papers.... an absolutely terrible change by the @ACM Publications Board to the Policy on Authorship.

                                  Yes, this will give ACM more papers. No, the ideology of "number go up" productivism is not the path to responsible, ecological or ethical computing, but to irrelevance. #AIslop

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                                  #19

                                  @cbecker @ACM The much maligned SciGen project was ahead of its time.

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                                  • cbecker@hci.socialC cbecker@hci.social

                                    @nyhan

                                    oh but we can't possibly be expected to keep track of what we do with our computers when we produce ten papers each week!

                                    /s

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                                    #20

                                    @cbecker @nyhan Whoever wrote that policy has perhaps never written a paper. Writing is an integral part of doing research.

                                    How about developing dedicated tools for uncritical writing-related tasks such as spell checking? And not call them AI? They would then *automatically* be outside of the scope of AI policies. A simple and smart move! We should have thought of this long ago.

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                                    • cbecker@hci.socialC cbecker@hci.social

                                      ACM will no longer require disclosure of the use of #generativeAI in writing papers.... an absolutely terrible change by the @ACM Publications Board to the Policy on Authorship.

                                      Yes, this will give ACM more papers. No, the ideology of "number go up" productivism is not the path to responsible, ecological or ethical computing, but to irrelevance. #AIslop

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                                      #21

                                      @cbecker as the result of such a policy, i wonder how many regular reviewers for acm journals/conferences will refuse to do this task. it will be at least one (counting myself).

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