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If you are an expert witness, do not use ChatGPT to write the report you are charging $475/hour for.

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  • darryl_ramm@hachyderm.ioD darryl_ramm@hachyderm.io

    @evacide

    KnightHawk Engineering, all parrot no hawk.

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    #22

    @darryl_ramm @evacide all night, no khawk 😂

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    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

      If you are an expert witness, do not use ChatGPT to write the report you are charging $475/hour for. All of your chat prompts are subpoenable and we are all going to laugh so hard.

      https://www.404media.co/show-how-3m-is-0-at-fault-expert-witness-used-chatgpt-to-write-report-defending-company-in-deadly-explosion-lawsuit/

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      #23

      @evacide

      Expert witness drafts are no longer subject to discovery in US federal court.

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      • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

        If you are an expert witness, do not use ChatGPT to write the report you are charging $475/hour for. All of your chat prompts are subpoenable and we are all going to laugh so hard.

        https://www.404media.co/show-how-3m-is-0-at-fault-expert-witness-used-chatgpt-to-write-report-defending-company-in-deadly-explosion-lawsuit/

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        #24

        @evacide I am a bit confused - what *was* the connection between 3M and Watson Grinding?

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        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

          If you are an expert witness, do not use ChatGPT to write the report you are charging $475/hour for. All of your chat prompts are subpoenable and we are all going to laugh so hard.

          https://www.404media.co/show-how-3m-is-0-at-fault-expert-witness-used-chatgpt-to-write-report-defending-company-in-deadly-explosion-lawsuit/

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          #25

          @evacide

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          • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

            If you are an expert witness, do not use ChatGPT to write the report you are charging $475/hour for. All of your chat prompts are subpoenable and we are all going to laugh so hard.

            https://www.404media.co/show-how-3m-is-0-at-fault-expert-witness-used-chatgpt-to-write-report-defending-company-in-deadly-explosion-lawsuit/

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            #26

            @evacide
            If you *were* an expert witness, ...

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            • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

              If you are an expert witness, do not use ChatGPT to write the report you are charging $475/hour for. All of your chat prompts are subpoenable and we are all going to laugh so hard.

              https://www.404media.co/show-how-3m-is-0-at-fault-expert-witness-used-chatgpt-to-write-report-defending-company-in-deadly-explosion-lawsuit/

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              #27

              @evacide conversely, if your a scumbag expert witness working for some mega corp please continue to use ChatGPT or other llms, tyia

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              • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                If you are an expert witness, do not use ChatGPT to write the report you are charging $475/hour for. All of your chat prompts are subpoenable and we are all going to laugh so hard.

                https://www.404media.co/show-how-3m-is-0-at-fault-expert-witness-used-chatgpt-to-write-report-defending-company-in-deadly-explosion-lawsuit/

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                #28

                Damien Charlotin: AI Evidence Cases

                https://www.damiencharlotin.com/ai-evidence/

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                • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                  If you are an expert witness, do not use ChatGPT to write the report you are charging $475/hour for. All of your chat prompts are subpoenable and we are all going to laugh so hard.

                  https://www.404media.co/show-how-3m-is-0-at-fault-expert-witness-used-chatgpt-to-write-report-defending-company-in-deadly-explosion-lawsuit/

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                  #29

                  @evacide

                  I don't remember seeing this in the news.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Houston_explosion

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                  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                    If you are an expert witness, do not use ChatGPT to write the report you are charging $475/hour for. All of your chat prompts are subpoenable and we are all going to laugh so hard.

                    https://www.404media.co/show-how-3m-is-0-at-fault-expert-witness-used-chatgpt-to-write-report-defending-company-in-deadly-explosion-lawsuit/

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                    #30

                    @evacide This awful future demands that we return to a system of punishments from prehistory. No, not stoning and burning, those are perversions of so-called civilization.

                    I mean shunning, exile.

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                    • jameshowell@fediscience.orgJ jameshowell@fediscience.org

                      @evacide This awful future demands that we return to a system of punishments from prehistory. No, not stoning and burning, those are perversions of so-called civilization.

                      I mean shunning, exile.

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                      #31

                      @jameshowell @evacide

                      Oh, I think it’s already happening. You remember the graduating college student reaction to commencement speakers glazing AI?

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                      • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                        @jameshowell @evacide

                        Oh, I think it’s already happening. You remember the graduating college student reaction to commencement speakers glazing AI?

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                        #32

                        @GhostOnTheHalfShell @evacide I was thinking more like for the global criminals. Musk: it would be a terrible mistake to guillotine him. Morally wrong, but also not a just or poetic punishment. Just take away every cent, all his power, and send him out into the world alone. Literally nobody would speak to him. I can guarantee you today there would be no more offspring

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                        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                          If you are an expert witness, do not use ChatGPT to write the report you are charging $475/hour for. All of your chat prompts are subpoenable and we are all going to laugh so hard.

                          https://www.404media.co/show-how-3m-is-0-at-fault-expert-witness-used-chatgpt-to-write-report-defending-company-in-deadly-explosion-lawsuit/

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                          #33

                          @evacide “Moye [attorney for plaintiff(s)] added that many of the prompts took place the night before Autenrieth was deposed as an expert witness.”

                          Incredible.

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                          • jameshowell@fediscience.orgJ jameshowell@fediscience.org

                            @GhostOnTheHalfShell @evacide I was thinking more like for the global criminals. Musk: it would be a terrible mistake to guillotine him. Morally wrong, but also not a just or poetic punishment. Just take away every cent, all his power, and send him out into the world alone. Literally nobody would speak to him. I can guarantee you today there would be no more offspring

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                            #34

                            @jameshowell @evacide

                            I think I’m way ahead of you, buddy. 🙂 my idea is to take all of them, pack them off to a desert island with no connectivity whatsoever. You can choose to provide them enough food and what not or maybe just a little bit too little doesn’t really matter, but they will be left on their own, without any money or attention or influence, and they can spend all of their time working each other’s nerves and figuring out who’s going to dominate who.

                            Or solitary for life

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                            • penguin42@mastodon.org.ukP penguin42@mastodon.org.uk

                              @evacide I am a bit confused - what *was* the connection between 3M and Watson Grinding?

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                              @penguin42 @evacide

                              Watson Grinding is kinda famous: a thriller-movie explosion. A worn out hose allowed propylene gas to fill a workspace overnight.

                              Boom. Truly horrific explosion. Killed three. The whole operation was sloppy.

                              But 3M had a gas detection system which failed.

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                              • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

                                @penguin42 @evacide

                                Watson Grinding is kinda famous: a thriller-movie explosion. A worn out hose allowed propylene gas to fill a workspace overnight.

                                Boom. Truly horrific explosion. Killed three. The whole operation was sloppy.

                                But 3M had a gas detection system which failed.

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                                #36

                                @tuban_muzuru @evacide Yeh I'd known about Watson Grinding - hey I watch UCSCB - but I hadn't realised the detection thing was 3M, which yeh makes sense.

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                                • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                  If you are an expert witness, do not use ChatGPT to write the report you are charging $475/hour for. All of your chat prompts are subpoenable and we are all going to laugh so hard.

                                  https://www.404media.co/show-how-3m-is-0-at-fault-expert-witness-used-chatgpt-to-write-report-defending-company-in-deadly-explosion-lawsuit/

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                                  #37

                                  @evacide first time I was asked to be an expert witness in an IP suit I just charged my regular consulting rate, not knowing better. When the enemy E.W. paperwork showed he was getting paid 4x my rate, I knew to charge a lot more on my second (and, very hopefully, last) E.W. gig.

                                  N.b. that was around $470/hour and 15 years ago. I expect the rate has gone up.

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                                  • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                    If you are an expert witness, do not use ChatGPT to write the report you are charging $475/hour for. All of your chat prompts are subpoenable and we are all going to laugh so hard.

                                    https://www.404media.co/show-how-3m-is-0-at-fault-expert-witness-used-chatgpt-to-write-report-defending-company-in-deadly-explosion-lawsuit/

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                                    #38

                                    @evacide Nobody linked the ChatGPT conversation link?

                                    https://chatgpt.com/share/6a2985cb-ecd4-83ea-91ed-8b6f1de4cb09

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                                    • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                      If you are an expert witness, do not use ChatGPT to write the report you are charging $475/hour for. All of your chat prompts are subpoenable and we are all going to laugh so hard.

                                      https://www.404media.co/show-how-3m-is-0-at-fault-expert-witness-used-chatgpt-to-write-report-defending-company-in-deadly-explosion-lawsuit/

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                                      #39

                                      @evacide LMAO. I hope the motherfucker enjoys their upcoming, neverending hunt for a new job!

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                                      • jernej__s@infosec.exchangeJ jernej__s@infosec.exchange

                                        @evacide

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                                        #40

                                        @jernej__s @evacide love it

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                                        • evacide@hachyderm.ioE evacide@hachyderm.io

                                          If you are an expert witness, do not use ChatGPT to write the report you are charging $475/hour for. All of your chat prompts are subpoenable and we are all going to laugh so hard.

                                          https://www.404media.co/show-how-3m-is-0-at-fault-expert-witness-used-chatgpt-to-write-report-defending-company-in-deadly-explosion-lawsuit/

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                                          #41

                                          @evacide the first video link is a yahoo video link, with a mcaffee url referrer. not to call out people who use yahoo and mcaffee in this day and age… but come on that already speaks volumes!

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