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  3. computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them!

computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them!

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  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

    go ask anyone, in any field, if it's a good thing that their work is held behind one company's paywall.

    See how that works for them.

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    #37

    @foone sharecropping our own brains we used to call it

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    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

      @sounddrill @sophia81

      fun fact: I have a qemu VM to automate running Turbo C++ to compile one of my programs

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      #38

      @foone @sophia81 I think I have something that might interest you

      https://github.com/uditkarode/ucc

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      • bersl2@furry.engineerB bersl2@furry.engineer

        @foone "Oh, if they charge too much, I can just use a competitor."

        *rolls eyes*

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        #39

        @bersl2 @foone How's that going for oil products, like diesel? You know, the most widely used fuel we all have to use that should have tons of competition driving the price down because it's so ubiquitous?

        No market is big enough to avoid price fixing.

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        • svengeier@mathstodon.xyzS svengeier@mathstodon.xyz

          @foone
          Programming is only "free" if your time is worthless.

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          #40

          @SvenGeier

          I do not understand your comment.

          What makes ones time worthless? Because I really can't think of examples.

          (Thanks in advance for clarifying. 🙂 )

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          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

            I'm just saying, I've been doing this a long time, and I've seen both sides of the "programming is free!" and "programming is expensive :(" coin, so I can assure you, you REALLY want to stay on the "free" side.

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            #41

            @foone Almost everything I can do and know is the result of refusing to pay for $something.

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            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

              computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program them
              then in the late 70s, you could finally program them! for free! you just had to own a microcomputer! yay
              but then in the 80s and 90s you had to buy compilers, which were expensive
              by with the 2000s, rapidly compilers and interpreters became free again. anyone could program, for free!

              and then in the 2020s someone invented "programming but you have to pay", again.

              DON'T FALL FOR THIS TRAP

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              #42

              @foone
              It was so wonderful having a CRT based editor instead of punching cards to run on George (guarded by acolytes).
              I did buy Modula-2 compilers twice. My boss paid for VB6 enterprise. The M2 programs compiled for NT 3.51 do still run on Win10. I did GUI for XP in VB6 and the real code as M2 DLLS. Most VB6 doesn't work on 64 bit Win7 or Win10. Things like serial port OCX.
              The Cloud is just like the 1960s, but with faster & less secure connections. They can keep it.

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              • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program them
                then in the late 70s, you could finally program them! for free! you just had to own a microcomputer! yay
                but then in the 80s and 90s you had to buy compilers, which were expensive
                by with the 2000s, rapidly compilers and interpreters became free again. anyone could program, for free!

                and then in the 2020s someone invented "programming but you have to pay", again.

                DON'T FALL FOR THIS TRAP

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                #43

                @foone The free and local LLMs are perfectly usable for development, admin and cybersec work. All you need is a regular gaming graphics card or a computer with unified memory for them to work well.

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                • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                  I'm just saying, I've been doing this a long time, and I've seen both sides of the "programming is free!" and "programming is expensive :(" coin, so I can assure you, you REALLY want to stay on the "free" side.

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                  #44

                  @foone well said

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                  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                    computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program them
                    then in the late 70s, you could finally program them! for free! you just had to own a microcomputer! yay
                    but then in the 80s and 90s you had to buy compilers, which were expensive
                    by with the 2000s, rapidly compilers and interpreters became free again. anyone could program, for free!

                    and then in the 2020s someone invented "programming but you have to pay", again.

                    DON'T FALL FOR THIS TRAP

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                    #45

                    @foone since the mid 80s I am paid to do work with computers but I am a shitty programmer. now I am an archivist. the arrival of the LLMs enabled me to be creative with software. I think of something and the machine does it for me. I know mine is not the common experience but it also exists.

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                    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                      computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program them
                      then in the late 70s, you could finally program them! for free! you just had to own a microcomputer! yay
                      but then in the 80s and 90s you had to buy compilers, which were expensive
                      by with the 2000s, rapidly compilers and interpreters became free again. anyone could program, for free!

                      and then in the 2020s someone invented "programming but you have to pay", again.

                      DON'T FALL FOR THIS TRAP

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                      #46

                      @foone oh the ai bubble bust is coming soon enough at this rate...

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