Skip to content
  • Hjem
  • Seneste
  • Etiketter
  • Populære
  • Verden
  • Bruger
  • Grupper
Temaer
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Kollaps
FARVEL BIG TECH
  1. Forside
  2. Ikke-kategoriseret
  3. computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them!

computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program themthen in the late 70s, you could finally program them!

Planlagt Fastgjort Låst Flyttet Ikke-kategoriseret
46 Indlæg 35 Posters 0 Visninger
  • Ældste til nyeste
  • Nyeste til ældste
  • Most Votes
Svar
  • Svar som emne
Login for at svare
Denne tråd er blevet slettet. Kun brugere med emne behandlings privilegier kan se den.
  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

    @dazzr Nah: "slop" is focusing on the quality and quantity of AI content (and for a bonus, it's also based on an antisemitic meme! yay!).
    even if AI stuff was rare and of perfect quality, my argument would still be valid.

    my point is the paywall. You don't want a paywall on your tools, good or bad.

    betarays@p.changeme.fr.eu.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
    betarays@p.changeme.fr.eu.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
    betarays@p.changeme.fr.eu.org
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #31

    @foone@digipres.club

    and for a bonus, it’s also based on an antisemitic meme! yay!

    wait what???

    cjwatson@mastodon.ieC 1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

      computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program them
      then in the late 70s, you could finally program them! for free! you just had to own a microcomputer! yay
      but then in the 80s and 90s you had to buy compilers, which were expensive
      by with the 2000s, rapidly compilers and interpreters became free again. anyone could program, for free!

      and then in the 2020s someone invented "programming but you have to pay", again.

      DON'T FALL FOR THIS TRAP

      brouhaha@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
      brouhaha@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
      brouhaha@mastodon.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #32

      @foone
      Companies pushing so-called "AI":

      "We'll write bad code for you, so you don't have to pay a programmer to do it! And we'll only charge you 3x what you would have to.pay a programmer to write good code!"

      Um, no thank you. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • sounddrill@infosec.exchangeS sounddrill@infosec.exchange

        @sophia81 @foone fun fact, you can run turbo C++ through the web dosbox port, if you wanna relive the memories

        Here's a toy deployment https://turboc.pages.dev

        Just a heads up, firefox has a couple of keys wrongly mapped

        Some colleges in my country still make you use TurboC++ ig

        sophia81@icosahedron.websiteS This user is from outside of this forum
        sophia81@icosahedron.websiteS This user is from outside of this forum
        sophia81@icosahedron.website
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #33

        @sounddrill
        I am deeply sorry for your academic trauma 🫂

        @foone

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • betarays@p.changeme.fr.eu.orgB betarays@p.changeme.fr.eu.org

          @foone@digipres.club

          and for a bonus, it’s also based on an antisemitic meme! yay!

          wait what???

          cjwatson@mastodon.ieC This user is from outside of this forum
          cjwatson@mastodon.ieC This user is from outside of this forum
          cjwatson@mastodon.ie
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #34

          @BetaRays @foone This was discussed on https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=73708 - people there generally seemed to think it was more likely that it came directly from the "low-quality food for pigs" sense rather than from the antisemitic meme, though it's pretty hard to prove either way.

          betarays@p.changeme.fr.eu.orgB 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • cjwatson@mastodon.ieC cjwatson@mastodon.ie

            @BetaRays @foone This was discussed on https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=73708 - people there generally seemed to think it was more likely that it came directly from the "low-quality food for pigs" sense rather than from the antisemitic meme, though it's pretty hard to prove either way.

            betarays@p.changeme.fr.eu.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
            betarays@p.changeme.fr.eu.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
            betarays@p.changeme.fr.eu.org
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #35
            @cjwatson @foone That’s what I assumed too, though I’m not a native English speaker.
            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

              computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program them
              then in the late 70s, you could finally program them! for free! you just had to own a microcomputer! yay
              but then in the 80s and 90s you had to buy compilers, which were expensive
              by with the 2000s, rapidly compilers and interpreters became free again. anyone could program, for free!

              and then in the 2020s someone invented "programming but you have to pay", again.

              DON'T FALL FOR THIS TRAP

              kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.comK This user is from outside of this forum
              kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.comK This user is from outside of this forum
              kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.com
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #36

              @foone what if programming but it was like an MTG draft

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                go ask anyone, in any field, if it's a good thing that their work is held behind one company's paywall.

                See how that works for them.

                kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.comK This user is from outside of this forum
                kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.comK This user is from outside of this forum
                kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.com
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #37

                @foone sharecropping our own brains we used to call it

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                  @sounddrill @sophia81

                  fun fact: I have a qemu VM to automate running Turbo C++ to compile one of my programs

                  sounddrill@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
                  sounddrill@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
                  sounddrill@infosec.exchange
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #38

                  @foone @sophia81 I think I have something that might interest you

                  https://github.com/uditkarode/ucc

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • bersl2@furry.engineerB bersl2@furry.engineer

                    @foone "Oh, if they charge too much, I can just use a competitor."

                    *rolls eyes*

                    cohentheblue@ohai.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                    cohentheblue@ohai.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                    cohentheblue@ohai.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #39

                    @bersl2 @foone How's that going for oil products, like diesel? You know, the most widely used fuel we all have to use that should have tons of competition driving the price down because it's so ubiquitous?

                    No market is big enough to avoid price fixing.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • svengeier@mathstodon.xyzS svengeier@mathstodon.xyz

                      @foone
                      Programming is only "free" if your time is worthless.

                      johnnythan@tuebingen.networkJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      johnnythan@tuebingen.networkJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      johnnythan@tuebingen.network
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #40

                      @SvenGeier

                      I do not understand your comment.

                      What makes ones time worthless? Because I really can't think of examples.

                      (Thanks in advance for clarifying. 🙂 )

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                        I'm just saying, I've been doing this a long time, and I've seen both sides of the "programming is free!" and "programming is expensive :(" coin, so I can assure you, you REALLY want to stay on the "free" side.

                        flxtr@social.tchncs.deF This user is from outside of this forum
                        flxtr@social.tchncs.deF This user is from outside of this forum
                        flxtr@social.tchncs.de
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #41

                        @foone Almost everything I can do and know is the result of refusing to pay for $something.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                          computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program them
                          then in the late 70s, you could finally program them! for free! you just had to own a microcomputer! yay
                          but then in the 80s and 90s you had to buy compilers, which were expensive
                          by with the 2000s, rapidly compilers and interpreters became free again. anyone could program, for free!

                          and then in the 2020s someone invented "programming but you have to pay", again.

                          DON'T FALL FOR THIS TRAP

                          raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
                          raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
                          raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #42

                          @foone
                          It was so wonderful having a CRT based editor instead of punching cards to run on George (guarded by acolytes).
                          I did buy Modula-2 compilers twice. My boss paid for VB6 enterprise. The M2 programs compiled for NT 3.51 do still run on Win10. I did GUI for XP in VB6 and the real code as M2 DLLS. Most VB6 doesn't work on 64 bit Win7 or Win10. Things like serial port OCX.
                          The Cloud is just like the 1960s, but with faster & less secure connections. They can keep it.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                            computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program them
                            then in the late 70s, you could finally program them! for free! you just had to own a microcomputer! yay
                            but then in the 80s and 90s you had to buy compilers, which were expensive
                            by with the 2000s, rapidly compilers and interpreters became free again. anyone could program, for free!

                            and then in the 2020s someone invented "programming but you have to pay", again.

                            DON'T FALL FOR THIS TRAP

                            troed@swecyb.comT This user is from outside of this forum
                            troed@swecyb.comT This user is from outside of this forum
                            troed@swecyb.com
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #43

                            @foone The free and local LLMs are perfectly usable for development, admin and cybersec work. All you need is a regular gaming graphics card or a computer with unified memory for them to work well.

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                              I'm just saying, I've been doing this a long time, and I've seen both sides of the "programming is free!" and "programming is expensive :(" coin, so I can assure you, you REALLY want to stay on the "free" side.

                              kaasbaas@mastodon.africaK This user is from outside of this forum
                              kaasbaas@mastodon.africaK This user is from outside of this forum
                              kaasbaas@mastodon.africa
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #44

                              @foone well said

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program them
                                then in the late 70s, you could finally program them! for free! you just had to own a microcomputer! yay
                                but then in the 80s and 90s you had to buy compilers, which were expensive
                                by with the 2000s, rapidly compilers and interpreters became free again. anyone could program, for free!

                                and then in the 2020s someone invented "programming but you have to pay", again.

                                DON'T FALL FOR THIS TRAP

                                hananc@tooot.imH This user is from outside of this forum
                                hananc@tooot.imH This user is from outside of this forum
                                hananc@tooot.im
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #45

                                @foone since the mid 80s I am paid to do work with computers but I am a shitty programmer. now I am an archivist. the arrival of the LLMs enabled me to be creative with software. I think of something and the machine does it for me. I know mine is not the common experience but it also exists.

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                  computers were invented in the *mumblties* and you had to pay to program them
                                  then in the late 70s, you could finally program them! for free! you just had to own a microcomputer! yay
                                  but then in the 80s and 90s you had to buy compilers, which were expensive
                                  by with the 2000s, rapidly compilers and interpreters became free again. anyone could program, for free!

                                  and then in the 2020s someone invented "programming but you have to pay", again.

                                  DON'T FALL FOR THIS TRAP

                                  earthshine@masto.hackers.townE This user is from outside of this forum
                                  earthshine@masto.hackers.townE This user is from outside of this forum
                                  earthshine@masto.hackers.town
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #46

                                  @foone oh the ai bubble bust is coming soon enough at this rate...

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net shared this topic
                                  Svar
                                  • Svar som emne
                                  Login for at svare
                                  • Ældste til nyeste
                                  • Nyeste til ældste
                                  • Most Votes


                                  • Log ind

                                  • Har du ikke en konto? Tilmeld

                                  • Login or register to search.
                                  Powered by NodeBB Contributors
                                  Graciously hosted by data.coop
                                  • First post
                                    Last post
                                  0
                                  • Hjem
                                  • Seneste
                                  • Etiketter
                                  • Populære
                                  • Verden
                                  • Bruger
                                  • Grupper