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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

    Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

    Red is spending, green is revenue.

    https://isaiprofitable.com

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    #20

    @GossiTheDog I've got a bridge in London to sell them..

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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

      Red is spending, green is revenue.

      https://isaiprofitable.com

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      #21

      @GossiTheDog for colour blind people, the upper is spending and the lower is revenue

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      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

        Companion piece.

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        #22

        @GossiTheDog
        That companion piece is missing Anthropic and some of the recent moves there. Still pretty enlightening. It's crazy the amount of money that's getting shifted around

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

          Red is spending, green is revenue.

          https://isaiprofitable.com

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          cleanduck@mastodon.social
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          #23

          @GossiTheDog this is quite interesting, what are we thinking when the penny finally drops? NVIDIA go down? They’re about the only ones with actual assets, albeit depreciating ones. But surely their stock is inflated?

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

            Red is spending, green is revenue.

            https://isaiprofitable.com

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            #24

            @GossiTheDog It is quite profitable. For Nvidia. Not so much for all the others.

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

              Red is spending, green is revenue.

              https://isaiprofitable.com

              kasiandra@chaos.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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              #25

              @GossiTheDog
              #alt4you
              List of companies and graphs how much money they spend for AI and how less they revenue:

              Amazon since '22: Spend $313B revenue $22B. -$291B
              Alphabet Google since '22: Spend $287B revenue $25B. -$262B
              Microsoft since '22: Spend $266B revenue $31B. -$235B
              Meta since '22: $230B revenue $3B. -$227B
              Oracle since '23: Spend $57B revenue $18B. -$39B
              OpenAI since '20: Spend $55B revenue $28B. -$27B
              Anthropic Since '21: Spend $33B revenue $6.5B. - 26.5B

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              • kasiandra@chaos.socialK kasiandra@chaos.social

                @GossiTheDog
                #alt4you
                List of companies and graphs how much money they spend for AI and how less they revenue:

                Amazon since '22: Spend $313B revenue $22B. -$291B
                Alphabet Google since '22: Spend $287B revenue $25B. -$262B
                Microsoft since '22: Spend $266B revenue $31B. -$235B
                Meta since '22: $230B revenue $3B. -$227B
                Oracle since '23: Spend $57B revenue $18B. -$39B
                OpenAI since '20: Spend $55B revenue $28B. -$27B
                Anthropic Since '21: Spend $33B revenue $6.5B. - 26.5B

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                #26

                @GossiTheDog #alt4you
                xAI: Since '23: spend $20B revenue 0.8$B. -$19.2B

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                  Red is spending, green is revenue.

                  https://isaiprofitable.com

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                  #27

                  @GossiTheDog if red is spending and green is revenue then put that info in the fucking website no?

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                    Red is spending, green is revenue.

                    https://isaiprofitable.com

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                    #28

                    @GossiTheDog It's a huge gamble. I think AI will create enormous value, but enough to justify company's valuations? I really hope so. I don't know.

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                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                      Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                      Red is spending, green is revenue.

                      https://isaiprofitable.com

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                      #29

                      @GossiTheDog it'd be useful to see how they're doing over time. Someone claimed lately that Anthropic is close to becoming profitable. But I guess that data is hard to come by.

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                        Red is spending, green is revenue.

                        https://isaiprofitable.com

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                        #30

                        @GossiTheDog

                        What?

                        Nvidia's doing okay.

                        lol

                        Heaven help us in the reckoning.

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                          Red is spending, green is revenue.

                          https://isaiprofitable.com

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                          mayleen@infosec.exchange
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                          #31

                          @GossiTheDog
                          Green is also spending. Spending of all those lost souls that throw money into the magic ai pond and hope for a miracle in return 👻
                          #aislop

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                          • f800gecko@mastodon.onlineF f800gecko@mastodon.online

                            @GossiTheDog

                            What?

                            Nvidia's doing okay.

                            lol

                            Heaven help us in the reckoning.

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                            #32

                            @f800gecko
                            The folks that sold picks and shovels to all the punters during the gold rushes did fine too.

                            @GossiTheDog

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                            • kasiandra@chaos.socialK kasiandra@chaos.social

                              @GossiTheDog
                              #alt4you
                              List of companies and graphs how much money they spend for AI and how less they revenue:

                              Amazon since '22: Spend $313B revenue $22B. -$291B
                              Alphabet Google since '22: Spend $287B revenue $25B. -$262B
                              Microsoft since '22: Spend $266B revenue $31B. -$235B
                              Meta since '22: $230B revenue $3B. -$227B
                              Oracle since '23: Spend $57B revenue $18B. -$39B
                              OpenAI since '20: Spend $55B revenue $28B. -$27B
                              Anthropic Since '21: Spend $33B revenue $6.5B. - 26.5B

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                              #33

                              @kasiandra @GossiTheDog

                              AI was never going to create a revenue generating product.

                              According to Sam Altman, it's a rent-seeking economic activity, that will enrich billionaires beyond their wildest fantasies.

                              According to Koch Network, it's wasteful fossil fuel burner with a side of automated disinformation & election meddling.

                              According to tech oligarchs like Larry Ellison, Andreessen, Peter Thiel, & Elon Musk, it is a democracy destroyer.

                              For the oil industry, it's money laundering.

                              1/

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                              • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                                @kasiandra @GossiTheDog

                                AI was never going to create a revenue generating product.

                                According to Sam Altman, it's a rent-seeking economic activity, that will enrich billionaires beyond their wildest fantasies.

                                According to Koch Network, it's wasteful fossil fuel burner with a side of automated disinformation & election meddling.

                                According to tech oligarchs like Larry Ellison, Andreessen, Peter Thiel, & Elon Musk, it is a democracy destroyer.

                                For the oil industry, it's money laundering.

                                1/

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                                npars01@mstdn.social
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                                #34

                                2/

                                The rent seeking middleman bottlenecking access all human knowledge.

                                https://www.tomsguide.com/ai/people-will-buy-intelligence-from-us-on-a-meter-chatgpts-ceo-sam-altman-has-critics-worried-with-his-ai-vision

                                https://disconnect.blog/make-em-dumb-sell-em-smarts/

                                https://gizmodo.com/sam-altman-says-intelligence-will-be-a-utility-and-hes-just-the-man-to-collect-the-bills-2000732953

                                Fossil fuel funded tech feudalism
                                https://www.desmog.com/2025/12/11/the-koch-network-is-pushing-trump-to-accelerate-ai-documents-show/

                                https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2025/07/17/bill-gates-charles-koch-and-three-other-billionaires-are-giving-1-billion-to-enhance-economic-mobility-in-the-us/

                                Despite enormous losses, none of these incompetent CEO's have been ousted

                                https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/meta-plans-to-shift-spending-away-from-the-metaverse-d0ac3b7f

                                https://medium.com/@gp2030/why-metas-70-billion-metaverse-gamble-collapsed-5ad3260c15c8

                                https://www.wsj.com/tech/elon-musk-is-liable-for-some-twitter-investors-losses-jury-says-4b0c10a3

                                https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/technology/elon-musk-twitter-shareholders-verdict.html

                                Money laundering
                                https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-06/google-thiel-stand-out-in-saudi-prince-s-silicon-valley-tour

                                https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/05/13/trump-tech-execs-riyadh/

                                https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/26/elon-musks-xai-raises-6b-from-valor-a16z-and-sequoia/

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  Companion piece.

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                                  #35

                                  @GossiTheDog AKA the circle jerk.

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    Companion piece.

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                                    #36

                                    @GossiTheDog That infographic looks a lot like someone at Bloomberg has watched the first couple of minutes of this recent Gamers Nexus video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUbJDrL6ZfM

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                                    • liam_dh@mastodon.socialL liam_dh@mastodon.social

                                      @GossiTheDog right but ultimately, are they losing money or are they losing ours (public money)? How much public spending goes into AI worldwide? Why should they continue this business model if its not profitable?

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                                      #37

                                      @liam_dh @GossiTheDog

                                      Just wait till the bailouts roll in.

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                                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                        Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                        Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                        https://isaiprofitable.com

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                                        chazh@mastodon.social
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                                        #38

                                        @GossiTheDog I love this site and am also sharing it but I’d love more sources… so here’s the similarly themed https://www.wheresyoured.at/ais-economics-dont-make-sense/ which is both human-made and lists sources.

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                                        • tdp_org@mastodon.socialT tdp_org@mastodon.social

                                          @GossiTheDog Can't wait for the inevitable multiple orders of magnitude price rises once everyone's hooked.
                                          Old school drug dealer tactics, the first few hits are free...

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                                          #39

                                          @tdp_org @GossiTheDog already hitting it; everyone's either cut the tokens you get or switched to tokens (copilot) copilot agent reviews will be performed at 13x. Plus cost of the action time taken. Allll ramping up

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