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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

    Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

    Red is spending, green is revenue.

    https://isaiprofitable.com

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    #24

    @GossiTheDog It is quite profitable. For Nvidia. Not so much for all the others.

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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

      Red is spending, green is revenue.

      https://isaiprofitable.com

      kasiandra@chaos.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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      #25

      @GossiTheDog
      #alt4you
      List of companies and graphs how much money they spend for AI and how less they revenue:

      Amazon since '22: Spend $313B revenue $22B. -$291B
      Alphabet Google since '22: Spend $287B revenue $25B. -$262B
      Microsoft since '22: Spend $266B revenue $31B. -$235B
      Meta since '22: $230B revenue $3B. -$227B
      Oracle since '23: Spend $57B revenue $18B. -$39B
      OpenAI since '20: Spend $55B revenue $28B. -$27B
      Anthropic Since '21: Spend $33B revenue $6.5B. - 26.5B

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      • kasiandra@chaos.socialK kasiandra@chaos.social

        @GossiTheDog
        #alt4you
        List of companies and graphs how much money they spend for AI and how less they revenue:

        Amazon since '22: Spend $313B revenue $22B. -$291B
        Alphabet Google since '22: Spend $287B revenue $25B. -$262B
        Microsoft since '22: Spend $266B revenue $31B. -$235B
        Meta since '22: $230B revenue $3B. -$227B
        Oracle since '23: Spend $57B revenue $18B. -$39B
        OpenAI since '20: Spend $55B revenue $28B. -$27B
        Anthropic Since '21: Spend $33B revenue $6.5B. - 26.5B

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        #26

        @GossiTheDog #alt4you
        xAI: Since '23: spend $20B revenue 0.8$B. -$19.2B

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

          Red is spending, green is revenue.

          https://isaiprofitable.com

          raz2701@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #27

          @GossiTheDog if red is spending and green is revenue then put that info in the fucking website no?

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

            Red is spending, green is revenue.

            https://isaiprofitable.com

            cgervasi@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #28

            @GossiTheDog It's a huge gamble. I think AI will create enormous value, but enough to justify company's valuations? I really hope so. I don't know.

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

              Red is spending, green is revenue.

              https://isaiprofitable.com

              mpaluchowski@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #29

              @GossiTheDog it'd be useful to see how they're doing over time. Someone claimed lately that Anthropic is close to becoming profitable. But I guess that data is hard to come by.

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                Red is spending, green is revenue.

                https://isaiprofitable.com

                f800gecko@mastodon.onlineF This user is from outside of this forum
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                f800gecko@mastodon.online
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                #30

                @GossiTheDog

                What?

                Nvidia's doing okay.

                lol

                Heaven help us in the reckoning.

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                  Red is spending, green is revenue.

                  https://isaiprofitable.com

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                  mayleen@infosec.exchange
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                  #31

                  @GossiTheDog
                  Green is also spending. Spending of all those lost souls that throw money into the magic ai pond and hope for a miracle in return 👻
                  #aislop

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                  • f800gecko@mastodon.onlineF f800gecko@mastodon.online

                    @GossiTheDog

                    What?

                    Nvidia's doing okay.

                    lol

                    Heaven help us in the reckoning.

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                    #32

                    @f800gecko
                    The folks that sold picks and shovels to all the punters during the gold rushes did fine too.

                    @GossiTheDog

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                    • kasiandra@chaos.socialK kasiandra@chaos.social

                      @GossiTheDog
                      #alt4you
                      List of companies and graphs how much money they spend for AI and how less they revenue:

                      Amazon since '22: Spend $313B revenue $22B. -$291B
                      Alphabet Google since '22: Spend $287B revenue $25B. -$262B
                      Microsoft since '22: Spend $266B revenue $31B. -$235B
                      Meta since '22: $230B revenue $3B. -$227B
                      Oracle since '23: Spend $57B revenue $18B. -$39B
                      OpenAI since '20: Spend $55B revenue $28B. -$27B
                      Anthropic Since '21: Spend $33B revenue $6.5B. - 26.5B

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                      #33

                      @kasiandra @GossiTheDog

                      AI was never going to create a revenue generating product.

                      According to Sam Altman, it's a rent-seeking economic activity, that will enrich billionaires beyond their wildest fantasies.

                      According to Koch Network, it's wasteful fossil fuel burner with a side of automated disinformation & election meddling.

                      According to tech oligarchs like Larry Ellison, Andreessen, Peter Thiel, & Elon Musk, it is a democracy destroyer.

                      For the oil industry, it's money laundering.

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                      • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                        @kasiandra @GossiTheDog

                        AI was never going to create a revenue generating product.

                        According to Sam Altman, it's a rent-seeking economic activity, that will enrich billionaires beyond their wildest fantasies.

                        According to Koch Network, it's wasteful fossil fuel burner with a side of automated disinformation & election meddling.

                        According to tech oligarchs like Larry Ellison, Andreessen, Peter Thiel, & Elon Musk, it is a democracy destroyer.

                        For the oil industry, it's money laundering.

                        1/

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                        #34

                        2/

                        The rent seeking middleman bottlenecking access all human knowledge.

                        https://www.tomsguide.com/ai/people-will-buy-intelligence-from-us-on-a-meter-chatgpts-ceo-sam-altman-has-critics-worried-with-his-ai-vision

                        https://disconnect.blog/make-em-dumb-sell-em-smarts/

                        https://gizmodo.com/sam-altman-says-intelligence-will-be-a-utility-and-hes-just-the-man-to-collect-the-bills-2000732953

                        Fossil fuel funded tech feudalism
                        https://www.desmog.com/2025/12/11/the-koch-network-is-pushing-trump-to-accelerate-ai-documents-show/

                        https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2025/07/17/bill-gates-charles-koch-and-three-other-billionaires-are-giving-1-billion-to-enhance-economic-mobility-in-the-us/

                        Despite enormous losses, none of these incompetent CEO's have been ousted

                        https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/meta-plans-to-shift-spending-away-from-the-metaverse-d0ac3b7f

                        https://medium.com/@gp2030/why-metas-70-billion-metaverse-gamble-collapsed-5ad3260c15c8

                        https://www.wsj.com/tech/elon-musk-is-liable-for-some-twitter-investors-losses-jury-says-4b0c10a3

                        https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/technology/elon-musk-twitter-shareholders-verdict.html

                        Money laundering
                        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-06/google-thiel-stand-out-in-saudi-prince-s-silicon-valley-tour

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/05/13/trump-tech-execs-riyadh/

                        https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/26/elon-musks-xai-raises-6b-from-valor-a16z-and-sequoia/

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          Companion piece.

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                          #35

                          @GossiTheDog AKA the circle jerk.

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            Companion piece.

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                            #36

                            @GossiTheDog That infographic looks a lot like someone at Bloomberg has watched the first couple of minutes of this recent Gamers Nexus video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUbJDrL6ZfM

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                            • liam_dh@mastodon.socialL liam_dh@mastodon.social

                              @GossiTheDog right but ultimately, are they losing money or are they losing ours (public money)? How much public spending goes into AI worldwide? Why should they continue this business model if its not profitable?

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                              #37

                              @liam_dh @GossiTheDog

                              Just wait till the bailouts roll in.

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                              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                https://isaiprofitable.com

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                                chazh@mastodon.social
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                                #38

                                @GossiTheDog I love this site and am also sharing it but I’d love more sources… so here’s the similarly themed https://www.wheresyoured.at/ais-economics-dont-make-sense/ which is both human-made and lists sources.

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                                • tdp_org@mastodon.socialT tdp_org@mastodon.social

                                  @GossiTheDog Can't wait for the inevitable multiple orders of magnitude price rises once everyone's hooked.
                                  Old school drug dealer tactics, the first few hits are free...

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                                  #39

                                  @tdp_org @GossiTheDog already hitting it; everyone's either cut the tokens you get or switched to tokens (copilot) copilot agent reviews will be performed at 13x. Plus cost of the action time taken. Allll ramping up

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                    Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                    https://isaiprofitable.com

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                                    #40

                                    @GossiTheDog

                                    Amazon, Google, Microsoft and Facebook going broke seems like a Very Good Thing.

                                    I shall henceforth encourage them in their folly.

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                      Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                      https://isaiprofitable.com

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                                      #41

                                      @GossiTheDog yeah but they're making up for it with volume

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                                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                        Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                        Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                        https://isaiprofitable.com

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                                        peak@social.vivaldi.net
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                                        #42

                                        @GossiTheDog 🔥 🔥 🔥 🍻 🍻 🍻

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                          Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                          https://isaiprofitable.com

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                                          #43

                                          @GossiTheDog the green is "income" they are just giving eachother i assume

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