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  • kasiandra@chaos.socialK kasiandra@chaos.social

    @GossiTheDog
    #alt4you
    List of companies and graphs how much money they spend for AI and how less they revenue:

    Amazon since '22: Spend $313B revenue $22B. -$291B
    Alphabet Google since '22: Spend $287B revenue $25B. -$262B
    Microsoft since '22: Spend $266B revenue $31B. -$235B
    Meta since '22: $230B revenue $3B. -$227B
    Oracle since '23: Spend $57B revenue $18B. -$39B
    OpenAI since '20: Spend $55B revenue $28B. -$27B
    Anthropic Since '21: Spend $33B revenue $6.5B. - 26.5B

    kasiandra@chaos.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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    kasiandra@chaos.social
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    #26

    @GossiTheDog #alt4you
    xAI: Since '23: spend $20B revenue 0.8$B. -$19.2B

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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

      Red is spending, green is revenue.

      https://isaiprofitable.com

      raz2701@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #27

      @GossiTheDog if red is spending and green is revenue then put that info in the fucking website no?

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      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

        Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

        Red is spending, green is revenue.

        https://isaiprofitable.com

        cgervasi@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #28

        @GossiTheDog It's a huge gamble. I think AI will create enormous value, but enough to justify company's valuations? I really hope so. I don't know.

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

          Red is spending, green is revenue.

          https://isaiprofitable.com

          mpaluchowski@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #29

          @GossiTheDog it'd be useful to see how they're doing over time. Someone claimed lately that Anthropic is close to becoming profitable. But I guess that data is hard to come by.

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

            Red is spending, green is revenue.

            https://isaiprofitable.com

            f800gecko@mastodon.onlineF This user is from outside of this forum
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            f800gecko@mastodon.online
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #30

            @GossiTheDog

            What?

            Nvidia's doing okay.

            lol

            Heaven help us in the reckoning.

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

              Red is spending, green is revenue.

              https://isaiprofitable.com

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              mayleen@infosec.exchange
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              #31

              @GossiTheDog
              Green is also spending. Spending of all those lost souls that throw money into the magic ai pond and hope for a miracle in return 👻
              #aislop

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              • f800gecko@mastodon.onlineF f800gecko@mastodon.online

                @GossiTheDog

                What?

                Nvidia's doing okay.

                lol

                Heaven help us in the reckoning.

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                #32

                @f800gecko
                The folks that sold picks and shovels to all the punters during the gold rushes did fine too.

                @GossiTheDog

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                • kasiandra@chaos.socialK kasiandra@chaos.social

                  @GossiTheDog
                  #alt4you
                  List of companies and graphs how much money they spend for AI and how less they revenue:

                  Amazon since '22: Spend $313B revenue $22B. -$291B
                  Alphabet Google since '22: Spend $287B revenue $25B. -$262B
                  Microsoft since '22: Spend $266B revenue $31B. -$235B
                  Meta since '22: $230B revenue $3B. -$227B
                  Oracle since '23: Spend $57B revenue $18B. -$39B
                  OpenAI since '20: Spend $55B revenue $28B. -$27B
                  Anthropic Since '21: Spend $33B revenue $6.5B. - 26.5B

                  npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #33

                  @kasiandra @GossiTheDog

                  AI was never going to create a revenue generating product.

                  According to Sam Altman, it's a rent-seeking economic activity, that will enrich billionaires beyond their wildest fantasies.

                  According to Koch Network, it's wasteful fossil fuel burner with a side of automated disinformation & election meddling.

                  According to tech oligarchs like Larry Ellison, Andreessen, Peter Thiel, & Elon Musk, it is a democracy destroyer.

                  For the oil industry, it's money laundering.

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                  • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                    @kasiandra @GossiTheDog

                    AI was never going to create a revenue generating product.

                    According to Sam Altman, it's a rent-seeking economic activity, that will enrich billionaires beyond their wildest fantasies.

                    According to Koch Network, it's wasteful fossil fuel burner with a side of automated disinformation & election meddling.

                    According to tech oligarchs like Larry Ellison, Andreessen, Peter Thiel, & Elon Musk, it is a democracy destroyer.

                    For the oil industry, it's money laundering.

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                    npars01@mstdn.social
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                    #34

                    2/

                    The rent seeking middleman bottlenecking access all human knowledge.

                    https://www.tomsguide.com/ai/people-will-buy-intelligence-from-us-on-a-meter-chatgpts-ceo-sam-altman-has-critics-worried-with-his-ai-vision

                    https://disconnect.blog/make-em-dumb-sell-em-smarts/

                    https://gizmodo.com/sam-altman-says-intelligence-will-be-a-utility-and-hes-just-the-man-to-collect-the-bills-2000732953

                    Fossil fuel funded tech feudalism
                    https://www.desmog.com/2025/12/11/the-koch-network-is-pushing-trump-to-accelerate-ai-documents-show/

                    https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2025/07/17/bill-gates-charles-koch-and-three-other-billionaires-are-giving-1-billion-to-enhance-economic-mobility-in-the-us/

                    Despite enormous losses, none of these incompetent CEO's have been ousted

                    https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/meta-plans-to-shift-spending-away-from-the-metaverse-d0ac3b7f

                    https://medium.com/@gp2030/why-metas-70-billion-metaverse-gamble-collapsed-5ad3260c15c8

                    https://www.wsj.com/tech/elon-musk-is-liable-for-some-twitter-investors-losses-jury-says-4b0c10a3

                    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/technology/elon-musk-twitter-shareholders-verdict.html

                    Money laundering
                    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-06/google-thiel-stand-out-in-saudi-prince-s-silicon-valley-tour

                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/05/13/trump-tech-execs-riyadh/

                    https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/26/elon-musks-xai-raises-6b-from-valor-a16z-and-sequoia/

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                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                      Companion piece.

                      lancejz@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #35

                      @GossiTheDog AKA the circle jerk.

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        Companion piece.

                        galaxis@mastodon.infra.deG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        galaxis@mastodon.infra.de
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                        #36

                        @GossiTheDog That infographic looks a lot like someone at Bloomberg has watched the first couple of minutes of this recent Gamers Nexus video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUbJDrL6ZfM

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                        • liam_dh@mastodon.socialL liam_dh@mastodon.social

                          @GossiTheDog right but ultimately, are they losing money or are they losing ours (public money)? How much public spending goes into AI worldwide? Why should they continue this business model if its not profitable?

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                          #37

                          @liam_dh @GossiTheDog

                          Just wait till the bailouts roll in.

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                            Red is spending, green is revenue.

                            https://isaiprofitable.com

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                            chazh@mastodon.social
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                            #38

                            @GossiTheDog I love this site and am also sharing it but I’d love more sources… so here’s the similarly themed https://www.wheresyoured.at/ais-economics-dont-make-sense/ which is both human-made and lists sources.

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                            • tdp_org@mastodon.socialT tdp_org@mastodon.social

                              @GossiTheDog Can't wait for the inevitable multiple orders of magnitude price rises once everyone's hooked.
                              Old school drug dealer tactics, the first few hits are free...

                              chrismckee@federate.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #39

                              @tdp_org @GossiTheDog already hitting it; everyone's either cut the tokens you get or switched to tokens (copilot) copilot agent reviews will be performed at 13x. Plus cost of the action time taken. Allll ramping up

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                              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                https://isaiprofitable.com

                                zl2tod@mastodon.onlineZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #40

                                @GossiTheDog

                                Amazon, Google, Microsoft and Facebook going broke seems like a Very Good Thing.

                                I shall henceforth encourage them in their folly.

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                  Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                  https://isaiprofitable.com

                                  rotopenguin@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  rotopenguin@mastodon.social
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                                  #41

                                  @GossiTheDog yeah but they're making up for it with volume

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                    Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                    https://isaiprofitable.com

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                                    peak@social.vivaldi.net
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                                    #42

                                    @GossiTheDog 🔥 🔥 🔥 🍻 🍻 🍻

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                      Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                      https://isaiprofitable.com

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                                      #43

                                      @GossiTheDog the green is "income" they are just giving eachother i assume

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                                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                        Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                        Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                        https://isaiprofitable.com

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                                        #44

                                        @GossiTheDog NVIDIA making out like a bandit though!

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                          Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                          https://isaiprofitable.com

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                                          #45

                                          @GossiTheDog

                                          this will never be not funny.

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