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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

    Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

    Red is spending, green is revenue.

    https://isaiprofitable.com

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    cleanduck@mastodon.social
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    #23

    @GossiTheDog this is quite interesting, what are we thinking when the penny finally drops? NVIDIA go down? They’re about the only ones with actual assets, albeit depreciating ones. But surely their stock is inflated?

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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

      Red is spending, green is revenue.

      https://isaiprofitable.com

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      #24

      @GossiTheDog It is quite profitable. For Nvidia. Not so much for all the others.

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      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

        Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

        Red is spending, green is revenue.

        https://isaiprofitable.com

        kasiandra@chaos.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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        kasiandra@chaos.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #25

        @GossiTheDog
        #alt4you
        List of companies and graphs how much money they spend for AI and how less they revenue:

        Amazon since '22: Spend $313B revenue $22B. -$291B
        Alphabet Google since '22: Spend $287B revenue $25B. -$262B
        Microsoft since '22: Spend $266B revenue $31B. -$235B
        Meta since '22: $230B revenue $3B. -$227B
        Oracle since '23: Spend $57B revenue $18B. -$39B
        OpenAI since '20: Spend $55B revenue $28B. -$27B
        Anthropic Since '21: Spend $33B revenue $6.5B. - 26.5B

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        • kasiandra@chaos.socialK kasiandra@chaos.social

          @GossiTheDog
          #alt4you
          List of companies and graphs how much money they spend for AI and how less they revenue:

          Amazon since '22: Spend $313B revenue $22B. -$291B
          Alphabet Google since '22: Spend $287B revenue $25B. -$262B
          Microsoft since '22: Spend $266B revenue $31B. -$235B
          Meta since '22: $230B revenue $3B. -$227B
          Oracle since '23: Spend $57B revenue $18B. -$39B
          OpenAI since '20: Spend $55B revenue $28B. -$27B
          Anthropic Since '21: Spend $33B revenue $6.5B. - 26.5B

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          kasiandra@chaos.social
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          #26

          @GossiTheDog #alt4you
          xAI: Since '23: spend $20B revenue 0.8$B. -$19.2B

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

            Red is spending, green is revenue.

            https://isaiprofitable.com

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            raz2701@mastodon.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #27

            @GossiTheDog if red is spending and green is revenue then put that info in the fucking website no?

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

              Red is spending, green is revenue.

              https://isaiprofitable.com

              cgervasi@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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              cgervasi@fosstodon.org
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              #28

              @GossiTheDog It's a huge gamble. I think AI will create enormous value, but enough to justify company's valuations? I really hope so. I don't know.

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                Red is spending, green is revenue.

                https://isaiprofitable.com

                mpaluchowski@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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                mpaluchowski@mastodon.online
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #29

                @GossiTheDog it'd be useful to see how they're doing over time. Someone claimed lately that Anthropic is close to becoming profitable. But I guess that data is hard to come by.

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                  Red is spending, green is revenue.

                  https://isaiprofitable.com

                  f800gecko@mastodon.onlineF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  f800gecko@mastodon.online
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #30

                  @GossiTheDog

                  What?

                  Nvidia's doing okay.

                  lol

                  Heaven help us in the reckoning.

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                    Red is spending, green is revenue.

                    https://isaiprofitable.com

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                    mayleen@infosec.exchange
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                    #31

                    @GossiTheDog
                    Green is also spending. Spending of all those lost souls that throw money into the magic ai pond and hope for a miracle in return 👻
                    #aislop

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                    • f800gecko@mastodon.onlineF f800gecko@mastodon.online

                      @GossiTheDog

                      What?

                      Nvidia's doing okay.

                      lol

                      Heaven help us in the reckoning.

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                      crispius@mstdn.fname.ca
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                      #32

                      @f800gecko
                      The folks that sold picks and shovels to all the punters during the gold rushes did fine too.

                      @GossiTheDog

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                      • kasiandra@chaos.socialK kasiandra@chaos.social

                        @GossiTheDog
                        #alt4you
                        List of companies and graphs how much money they spend for AI and how less they revenue:

                        Amazon since '22: Spend $313B revenue $22B. -$291B
                        Alphabet Google since '22: Spend $287B revenue $25B. -$262B
                        Microsoft since '22: Spend $266B revenue $31B. -$235B
                        Meta since '22: $230B revenue $3B. -$227B
                        Oracle since '23: Spend $57B revenue $18B. -$39B
                        OpenAI since '20: Spend $55B revenue $28B. -$27B
                        Anthropic Since '21: Spend $33B revenue $6.5B. - 26.5B

                        npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #33

                        @kasiandra @GossiTheDog

                        AI was never going to create a revenue generating product.

                        According to Sam Altman, it's a rent-seeking economic activity, that will enrich billionaires beyond their wildest fantasies.

                        According to Koch Network, it's wasteful fossil fuel burner with a side of automated disinformation & election meddling.

                        According to tech oligarchs like Larry Ellison, Andreessen, Peter Thiel, & Elon Musk, it is a democracy destroyer.

                        For the oil industry, it's money laundering.

                        1/

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                        • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                          @kasiandra @GossiTheDog

                          AI was never going to create a revenue generating product.

                          According to Sam Altman, it's a rent-seeking economic activity, that will enrich billionaires beyond their wildest fantasies.

                          According to Koch Network, it's wasteful fossil fuel burner with a side of automated disinformation & election meddling.

                          According to tech oligarchs like Larry Ellison, Andreessen, Peter Thiel, & Elon Musk, it is a democracy destroyer.

                          For the oil industry, it's money laundering.

                          1/

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                          npars01@mstdn.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #34

                          2/

                          The rent seeking middleman bottlenecking access all human knowledge.

                          https://www.tomsguide.com/ai/people-will-buy-intelligence-from-us-on-a-meter-chatgpts-ceo-sam-altman-has-critics-worried-with-his-ai-vision

                          https://disconnect.blog/make-em-dumb-sell-em-smarts/

                          https://gizmodo.com/sam-altman-says-intelligence-will-be-a-utility-and-hes-just-the-man-to-collect-the-bills-2000732953

                          Fossil fuel funded tech feudalism
                          https://www.desmog.com/2025/12/11/the-koch-network-is-pushing-trump-to-accelerate-ai-documents-show/

                          https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2025/07/17/bill-gates-charles-koch-and-three-other-billionaires-are-giving-1-billion-to-enhance-economic-mobility-in-the-us/

                          Despite enormous losses, none of these incompetent CEO's have been ousted

                          https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/meta-plans-to-shift-spending-away-from-the-metaverse-d0ac3b7f

                          https://medium.com/@gp2030/why-metas-70-billion-metaverse-gamble-collapsed-5ad3260c15c8

                          https://www.wsj.com/tech/elon-musk-is-liable-for-some-twitter-investors-losses-jury-says-4b0c10a3

                          https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/technology/elon-musk-twitter-shareholders-verdict.html

                          Money laundering
                          https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-06/google-thiel-stand-out-in-saudi-prince-s-silicon-valley-tour

                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/05/13/trump-tech-execs-riyadh/

                          https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/26/elon-musks-xai-raises-6b-from-valor-a16z-and-sequoia/

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            Companion piece.

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                            lancejz@mastodon.social
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                            #35

                            @GossiTheDog AKA the circle jerk.

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              Companion piece.

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                              galaxis@mastodon.infra.de
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                              #36

                              @GossiTheDog That infographic looks a lot like someone at Bloomberg has watched the first couple of minutes of this recent Gamers Nexus video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUbJDrL6ZfM

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                              • liam_dh@mastodon.socialL liam_dh@mastodon.social

                                @GossiTheDog right but ultimately, are they losing money or are they losing ours (public money)? How much public spending goes into AI worldwide? Why should they continue this business model if its not profitable?

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                                violetmadder@kolektiva.social
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                                #37

                                @liam_dh @GossiTheDog

                                Just wait till the bailouts roll in.

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                  Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                  https://isaiprofitable.com

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                                  chazh@mastodon.social
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                                  #38

                                  @GossiTheDog I love this site and am also sharing it but I’d love more sources… so here’s the similarly themed https://www.wheresyoured.at/ais-economics-dont-make-sense/ which is both human-made and lists sources.

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                                  • tdp_org@mastodon.socialT tdp_org@mastodon.social

                                    @GossiTheDog Can't wait for the inevitable multiple orders of magnitude price rises once everyone's hooked.
                                    Old school drug dealer tactics, the first few hits are free...

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                                    chrismckee@federate.social
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                                    #39

                                    @tdp_org @GossiTheDog already hitting it; everyone's either cut the tokens you get or switched to tokens (copilot) copilot agent reviews will be performed at 13x. Plus cost of the action time taken. Allll ramping up

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                      Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                      https://isaiprofitable.com

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                                      #40

                                      @GossiTheDog

                                      Amazon, Google, Microsoft and Facebook going broke seems like a Very Good Thing.

                                      I shall henceforth encourage them in their folly.

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                                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                        Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                        Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                        https://isaiprofitable.com

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                                        #41

                                        @GossiTheDog yeah but they're making up for it with volume

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          Now you can keep track of how many billions companies are losing on GenAI.

                                          Red is spending, green is revenue.

                                          https://isaiprofitable.com

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                                          peak@social.vivaldi.net
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                                          #42

                                          @GossiTheDog 🔥 🔥 🔥 🍻 🍻 🍻

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