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  • oscarfalcon@mastodon.socialO oscarfalcon@mastodon.social

    @benroyce @alice @slothrop

    Until we get rid of the "TECHBRO" or breed them out and get ourselves the ever-elusive "TECHMENSCH" there will always be an enshittificatory factor around and startups and emerging companies that are thought of as prey.

    shamhatt@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    shamhatt@mastodon.social
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #86

    @oscarfalcon @benroyce @alice @slothrop put this man into the @pluralistic wordmongering watchlist

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    • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

      RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

      If you’re still using Proton mail:

      The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

      If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

      UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

      #proton #fash

      dnkboston@apobangpo.spaceD This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #87

      @slothrop God damn. I'm part of a "family", and I think we've got 8 months to go on our plan. Migration was one thing, getting people to acclimate to my new address was another. I dread repeating the second part, not the least because whomever I go to is pretty much destined to repeat this BS in about 18 months.

      I had an email with my own domain before, and I couldn't get through to the majority of people on gmail. So much fun.

      Can people just contact me on Signal going forward? And text me?

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      • mathew@universeodon.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #88

        @mzungu @nileane @slothrop After a lot of evaluation I ended up picking hover.com. Apart from anything else, they aren't involved with cryptocurrency.

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        • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

          RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

          If you’re still using Proton mail:

          The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

          If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

          UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

          https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

          #proton #fash

          cupcakebr@bolha.usC This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #89

          @slothrop

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          • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

            RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

            If you’re still using Proton mail:

            The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

            If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

            UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

            https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

            #proton #fash

            vw_guy@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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            vw_guy@mastodon.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #90

            @slothrop Cool, I'll still use it no matter the internet rage about it

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            • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

              RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

              If you’re still using Proton mail:

              The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

              If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

              UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

              https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

              #proton #fash

              vampyre@transfem.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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              vampyre@transfem.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #91

              @slothrop@chaos.social Tuta is pretty good.

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              • woozle@toot.catW woozle@toot.cat

                @benroyce @draNgNon @alice @slothrop

                I've been self-hosting my email for... 15-20 years now? Maybe I should offer that as a "pay-what-you-like/can" service...

                mason@partychickens.netM This user is from outside of this forum
                mason@partychickens.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #92

                @woozle @benroyce @draNgNon @alice @slothrop Teaching people to #selfhost is a great good you can do for the world. I teach people to do it 1:1 but I'm thinking I should put up resources so that folks can learn without direct, live instruction. (It'd probably be a good group project.)

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                • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                  RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                  If you’re still using Proton mail:

                  The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                  If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                  UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                  https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                  #proton #fash

                  dulcedemon@beige.partyD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #93

                  @slothrop
                  Damn it!

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                  • shadowfals@toot.catS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #94

                    @mzungu @nileane @slothrop could be.

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                    • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                      RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                      If you’re still using Proton mail:

                      The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                      If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                      UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                      https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                      #proton #fash

                      rotnroll666@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      rotnroll666@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #95

                      @slothrop oh dear. Not using their service, but that shines a light of their other channels too 😢 @gazebo_c

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                      • uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.netU uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.net

                        @internic @slothrop you know perfectly this is not how advertisement on ads work... bye

                        tarmil@mastodon.tarmil.frT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #96

                        @uriel @internic @slothrop See the "Collaboration commerciale" text in the corner of the screenshot? That's what French YouTubers are legally required to put to indicate that this is a sponsored segment. Most definitely not an algorithmic ad.

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                        • nileane@nileane.frN nileane@nileane.fr

                          @gotofritz @slothrop If that's the case, that's up to Proton to clarify. Because right now it's presented as a sponsor: the video has a sponsor segment, and Lapierre even thanks Proton for sponsoring him.

                          If he's lying, then Proton should state that he lied.
                          + him "just using an affiliate link" would still mean that Proton is okay with a fascist influencer bringing them money and customers.

                          yaxu@post.lurk.orgY This user is from outside of this forum
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                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #97

                          @nileane @gotofritz @slothrop you'd have to ask proton to clarify. As far as I can tell, the affiliate link doesn't work, so perhaps someone else has

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                          • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                            RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                            If you’re still using Proton mail:

                            The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                            If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                            UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                            https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                            #proton #fash

                            verboese@nrw.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                            verboese@nrw.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #98

                            @slothrop and it’s not just mail. The Proton group has several other apps, e. g. Lumo, a european AI which I preferred - up to now. I think I have to think about another alternative here, too 😞

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                            • gatogatogato@ohai.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              gatogatogato@ohai.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #99

                              @Infoseepage @gotofritz @slothrop Never heard of that story nor of Andy Yen. Sounds highly terrifying. I just finished migrating all mail related stuff away from Gmail to Proton. Sucks to start over again.

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                              • yaxu@post.lurk.orgY yaxu@post.lurk.org

                                @nileane @gotofritz @slothrop you'd have to ask proton to clarify. As far as I can tell, the affiliate link doesn't work, so perhaps someone else has

                                mdione@en.osm.townM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #100

                                @yaxu @nileane @gotofritz @slothrop so this could be done to smear Proton? Has anyone contacted them?

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                                • mdione@en.osm.townM mdione@en.osm.town

                                  @yaxu @nileane @gotofritz @slothrop so this could be done to smear Proton? Has anyone contacted them?

                                  mdione@en.osm.townM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #101

                                  @yaxu @nileane @gotofritz @slothrop

                                  also, tclarify, did you find a link to thos video in any of the Proton products?

                                  I'm asking mostly becuase just yesterday a friend was talking me about Proton, and it sounded good emough to jump over.

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                                  • R roboro@mastodon.social

                                    @slothrop totally depressed by this. It has been a challenge to migrate all of my mail and friends and family on my domain off of Google's crap infrastructure. Have struggled with some shortcomings in Proton - their alias handling etc is terrible - but I am really upset to hear about fascist leanings etc. I just don't know how to up and migrate a whole bunch of people after a few months of getting people used to the shift.
                                    Why is the world so full of horrible people?

                                    aaron@social.tromdienste.deA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #102
                                    @roboro @slothrop sad to hear this...
                                    #tutamail seems to be the option to go with.
                                    I use their service and follow their blog for some years now and they stick to their core values and I appreciate their work a lot!
                                    Well done @Tutanota - I recommend your work and blog to many people 🙂
                                    tuta.com/
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                                    • radundtat@berlin.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #103

                                      @mzungu @nileane @slothrop Gandi.net

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                                      • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                                        RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                                        If you’re still using Proton mail:

                                        The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                                        If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                                        UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                                        https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                                        #proton #fash

                                        viduschaka@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        viduschaka@mastodon.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #104

                                        @slothrop @protonprivacy

                                        What do you think of Vincent Lapierre and did you really initiate the sponsorship of his videos yourselves? How do you reconcile fascism with data protection?

                                        #antifascism

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                                        • yaxu@post.lurk.orgY yaxu@post.lurk.org

                                          @nileane @gotofritz @slothrop you'd have to ask proton to clarify. As far as I can tell, the affiliate link doesn't work, so perhaps someone else has

                                          nileane@nileane.frN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #105

                                          @yaxu @gotofritz @slothrop

                                          First, I don't have to ask Proton anything. I'm not a customer, and I have shared factual info on here because I thought people who are customers should know. And the facts remain: Vincent Lapierre is a fascist YouTuber, his latest video features a full-on Proton Mail sponsorship segment, with the sponsorship label overlayed in the top left corner as required by law ("collaboration commerciale"), and with a paragraph in the video description featuring a custom Proton link to his name. If this is not an actual sponsorship, then Lapierre will surely have gone a long way to make it seem like one.

                                          Second, the link works for me. I'm wondering whether it's only active if you're visiting from a French IP or something. In any case, stop insinuating I'm a liar just because that link isn't working for you.

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