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  • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

    RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

    If you’re still using Proton mail:

    The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

    If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

    UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

    #proton #fash

    engravecavedave@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
    engravecavedave@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
    engravecavedave@mastodon.social
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #81

    @slothrop 😢

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    • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

      RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

      If you’re still using Proton mail:

      The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

      If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

      UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

      #proton #fash

      rsn@framapiaf.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
      rsn@framapiaf.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
      rsn@framapiaf.org
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #82

      @slothrop @blast_info à changer là 👉 https://www.blast-info.fr/contact Merci d'avance

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @alice @slothrop

        we also used to like #twitter

        the unfortunate truth is plutocrats can destroy any company by buying it out

        the only solution is to side eye any for profit business venture. it can be bought out, and once bought out, it can be gutted of its original purpose

        of course there's also the phenomenon of the #techbro founding a company and winning adulation and *then* we find out about their true sentiments

        (hello, #bluesky )

        oscarfalcon@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
        oscarfalcon@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
        oscarfalcon@mastodon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #83

        @benroyce @alice @slothrop

        Until we get rid of the "TECHBRO" or breed them out and get ourselves the ever-elusive "TECHMENSCH" there will always be an enshittificatory factor around and startups and emerging companies that are thought of as prey.

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        • oscarfalcon@mastodon.socialO oscarfalcon@mastodon.social

          @benroyce @alice @slothrop

          Until we get rid of the "TECHBRO" or breed them out and get ourselves the ever-elusive "TECHMENSCH" there will always be an enshittificatory factor around and startups and emerging companies that are thought of as prey.

          uair@autistics.lifeU This user is from outside of this forum
          uair@autistics.lifeU This user is from outside of this forum
          uair@autistics.life
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #84

          @oscarfalcon @benroyce @alice @slothrop

          People shall not be free until the last techbro is strangled with the entrails of the last megapreacher.
          --D Diddy

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          • spucodes@mastodon.gamedev.placeS spucodes@mastodon.gamedev.place

            @Brett_E_Carlock @slothrop @Tutanota @drsbaitso @StrangeNoises @alice @fastmail I’ve created a mailbox.org account early last month (shortly before google went all google) and am slowly moving things over there. Haven’t encountered any evil yet. Only hiccups were that some things weren’t properly localized, like one confirmation link mail was in German, that was pretty self explanatory tho

            haikyoneko@famichiki.jpH This user is from outside of this forum
            haikyoneko@famichiki.jpH This user is from outside of this forum
            haikyoneko@famichiki.jp
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #85

            @SpuCodes @Brett_E_Carlock @slothrop @Tutanota @drsbaitso @StrangeNoises @alice @fastmail I've been using mailbox for over a year. Works great for me, but I literally just use it for mail.

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            • oscarfalcon@mastodon.socialO oscarfalcon@mastodon.social

              @benroyce @alice @slothrop

              Until we get rid of the "TECHBRO" or breed them out and get ourselves the ever-elusive "TECHMENSCH" there will always be an enshittificatory factor around and startups and emerging companies that are thought of as prey.

              shamhatt@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
              shamhatt@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
              shamhatt@mastodon.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #86

              @oscarfalcon @benroyce @alice @slothrop put this man into the @pluralistic wordmongering watchlist

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              • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                If you’re still using Proton mail:

                The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                #proton #fash

                dnkboston@apobangpo.spaceD This user is from outside of this forum
                dnkboston@apobangpo.spaceD This user is from outside of this forum
                dnkboston@apobangpo.space
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #87

                @slothrop God damn. I'm part of a "family", and I think we've got 8 months to go on our plan. Migration was one thing, getting people to acclimate to my new address was another. I dread repeating the second part, not the least because whomever I go to is pretty much destined to repeat this BS in about 18 months.

                I had an email with my own domain before, and I couldn't get through to the majority of people on gmail. So much fun.

                Can people just contact me on Signal going forward? And text me?

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                • mathew@universeodon.comM This user is from outside of this forum
                  mathew@universeodon.comM This user is from outside of this forum
                  mathew@universeodon.com
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #88

                  @mzungu @nileane @slothrop After a lot of evaluation I ended up picking hover.com. Apart from anything else, they aren't involved with cryptocurrency.

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                  • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                    RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                    If you’re still using Proton mail:

                    The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                    If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                    UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                    https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                    #proton #fash

                    cupcakebr@bolha.usC This user is from outside of this forum
                    cupcakebr@bolha.usC This user is from outside of this forum
                    cupcakebr@bolha.us
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #89

                    @slothrop

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                    • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                      RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                      If you’re still using Proton mail:

                      The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                      If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                      UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                      https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                      #proton #fash

                      vw_guy@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
                      vw_guy@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
                      vw_guy@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #90

                      @slothrop Cool, I'll still use it no matter the internet rage about it

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                      • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                        RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                        If you’re still using Proton mail:

                        The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                        If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                        UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                        https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                        #proton #fash

                        vampyre@transfem.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
                        vampyre@transfem.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
                        vampyre@transfem.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #91

                        @slothrop@chaos.social Tuta is pretty good.

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                        • woozle@toot.catW woozle@toot.cat

                          @benroyce @draNgNon @alice @slothrop

                          I've been self-hosting my email for... 15-20 years now? Maybe I should offer that as a "pay-what-you-like/can" service...

                          mason@partychickens.netM This user is from outside of this forum
                          mason@partychickens.netM This user is from outside of this forum
                          mason@partychickens.net
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #92

                          @woozle @benroyce @draNgNon @alice @slothrop Teaching people to #selfhost is a great good you can do for the world. I teach people to do it 1:1 but I'm thinking I should put up resources so that folks can learn without direct, live instruction. (It'd probably be a good group project.)

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                          • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                            RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                            If you’re still using Proton mail:

                            The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                            If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                            UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                            https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                            #proton #fash

                            dulcedemon@beige.partyD This user is from outside of this forum
                            dulcedemon@beige.partyD This user is from outside of this forum
                            dulcedemon@beige.party
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #93

                            @slothrop
                            Damn it!

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                            • shadowfals@toot.catS This user is from outside of this forum
                              shadowfals@toot.catS This user is from outside of this forum
                              shadowfals@toot.cat
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #94

                              @mzungu @nileane @slothrop could be.

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                              • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                                RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                                If you’re still using Proton mail:

                                The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                                If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                                UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                                https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                                #proton #fash

                                rotnroll666@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                                rotnroll666@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                                rotnroll666@mastodon.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #95

                                @slothrop oh dear. Not using their service, but that shines a light of their other channels too 😢 @gazebo_c

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                                • uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.netU uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.net

                                  @internic @slothrop you know perfectly this is not how advertisement on ads work... bye

                                  tarmil@mastodon.tarmil.frT This user is from outside of this forum
                                  tarmil@mastodon.tarmil.frT This user is from outside of this forum
                                  tarmil@mastodon.tarmil.fr
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #96

                                  @uriel @internic @slothrop See the "Collaboration commerciale" text in the corner of the screenshot? That's what French YouTubers are legally required to put to indicate that this is a sponsored segment. Most definitely not an algorithmic ad.

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                                  • nileane@nileane.frN nileane@nileane.fr

                                    @gotofritz @slothrop If that's the case, that's up to Proton to clarify. Because right now it's presented as a sponsor: the video has a sponsor segment, and Lapierre even thanks Proton for sponsoring him.

                                    If he's lying, then Proton should state that he lied.
                                    + him "just using an affiliate link" would still mean that Proton is okay with a fascist influencer bringing them money and customers.

                                    yaxu@post.lurk.orgY This user is from outside of this forum
                                    yaxu@post.lurk.orgY This user is from outside of this forum
                                    yaxu@post.lurk.org
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #97

                                    @nileane @gotofritz @slothrop you'd have to ask proton to clarify. As far as I can tell, the affiliate link doesn't work, so perhaps someone else has

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                                    • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                                      RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                                      If you’re still using Proton mail:

                                      The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                                      If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                                      UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                                      https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                                      #proton #fash

                                      verboese@nrw.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      verboese@nrw.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #98

                                      @slothrop and it’s not just mail. The Proton group has several other apps, e. g. Lumo, a european AI which I preferred - up to now. I think I have to think about another alternative here, too 😞

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                                      • gatogatogato@ohai.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                                        gatogatogato@ohai.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                                        gatogatogato@ohai.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #99

                                        @Infoseepage @gotofritz @slothrop Never heard of that story nor of Andy Yen. Sounds highly terrifying. I just finished migrating all mail related stuff away from Gmail to Proton. Sucks to start over again.

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                                        • yaxu@post.lurk.orgY yaxu@post.lurk.org

                                          @nileane @gotofritz @slothrop you'd have to ask proton to clarify. As far as I can tell, the affiliate link doesn't work, so perhaps someone else has

                                          mdione@en.osm.townM This user is from outside of this forum
                                          mdione@en.osm.townM This user is from outside of this forum
                                          mdione@en.osm.town
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #100

                                          @yaxu @nileane @gotofritz @slothrop so this could be done to smear Proton? Has anyone contacted them?

                                          mdione@en.osm.townM 1 Reply Last reply
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