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  • spucodes@mastodon.gamedev.placeS spucodes@mastodon.gamedev.place

    @Brett_E_Carlock @slothrop @Tutanota @drsbaitso @StrangeNoises @alice @fastmail I’ve created a mailbox.org account early last month (shortly before google went all google) and am slowly moving things over there. Haven’t encountered any evil yet. Only hiccups were that some things weren’t properly localized, like one confirmation link mail was in German, that was pretty self explanatory tho

    haikyoneko@famichiki.jpH This user is from outside of this forum
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    haikyoneko@famichiki.jp
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    #85

    @SpuCodes @Brett_E_Carlock @slothrop @Tutanota @drsbaitso @StrangeNoises @alice @fastmail I've been using mailbox for over a year. Works great for me, but I literally just use it for mail.

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    • oscarfalcon@mastodon.socialO oscarfalcon@mastodon.social

      @benroyce @alice @slothrop

      Until we get rid of the "TECHBRO" or breed them out and get ourselves the ever-elusive "TECHMENSCH" there will always be an enshittificatory factor around and startups and emerging companies that are thought of as prey.

      shamhatt@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #86

      @oscarfalcon @benroyce @alice @slothrop put this man into the @pluralistic wordmongering watchlist

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      • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

        RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

        If you’re still using Proton mail:

        The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

        If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

        UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

        https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

        #proton #fash

        dnkboston@apobangpo.spaceD This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #87

        @slothrop God damn. I'm part of a "family", and I think we've got 8 months to go on our plan. Migration was one thing, getting people to acclimate to my new address was another. I dread repeating the second part, not the least because whomever I go to is pretty much destined to repeat this BS in about 18 months.

        I had an email with my own domain before, and I couldn't get through to the majority of people on gmail. So much fun.

        Can people just contact me on Signal going forward? And text me?

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        • mathew@universeodon.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #88

          @mzungu @nileane @slothrop After a lot of evaluation I ended up picking hover.com. Apart from anything else, they aren't involved with cryptocurrency.

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          • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

            RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

            If you’re still using Proton mail:

            The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

            If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

            UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

            https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

            #proton #fash

            cupcakebr@bolha.usC This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #89

            @slothrop

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            • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

              RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

              If you’re still using Proton mail:

              The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

              If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

              UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

              https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

              #proton #fash

              vw_guy@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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              vw_guy@mastodon.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #90

              @slothrop Cool, I'll still use it no matter the internet rage about it

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              • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                If you’re still using Proton mail:

                The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                #proton #fash

                vampyre@transfem.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                vampyre@transfem.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #91

                @slothrop@chaos.social Tuta is pretty good.

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                • woozle@toot.catW woozle@toot.cat

                  @benroyce @draNgNon @alice @slothrop

                  I've been self-hosting my email for... 15-20 years now? Maybe I should offer that as a "pay-what-you-like/can" service...

                  mason@partychickens.netM This user is from outside of this forum
                  mason@partychickens.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #92

                  @woozle @benroyce @draNgNon @alice @slothrop Teaching people to #selfhost is a great good you can do for the world. I teach people to do it 1:1 but I'm thinking I should put up resources so that folks can learn without direct, live instruction. (It'd probably be a good group project.)

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                  • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                    RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                    If you’re still using Proton mail:

                    The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                    If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                    UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                    https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                    #proton #fash

                    dulcedemon@beige.partyD This user is from outside of this forum
                    dulcedemon@beige.partyD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #93

                    @slothrop
                    Damn it!

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                    • shadowfals@toot.catS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #94

                      @mzungu @nileane @slothrop could be.

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                      • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                        RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                        If you’re still using Proton mail:

                        The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                        If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                        UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                        https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                        #proton #fash

                        rotnroll666@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                        rotnroll666@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
                        rotnroll666@mastodon.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #95

                        @slothrop oh dear. Not using their service, but that shines a light of their other channels too 😢 @gazebo_c

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                        • uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.netU uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.net

                          @internic @slothrop you know perfectly this is not how advertisement on ads work... bye

                          tarmil@mastodon.tarmil.frT This user is from outside of this forum
                          tarmil@mastodon.tarmil.frT This user is from outside of this forum
                          tarmil@mastodon.tarmil.fr
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #96

                          @uriel @internic @slothrop See the "Collaboration commerciale" text in the corner of the screenshot? That's what French YouTubers are legally required to put to indicate that this is a sponsored segment. Most definitely not an algorithmic ad.

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                          • nileane@nileane.frN nileane@nileane.fr

                            @gotofritz @slothrop If that's the case, that's up to Proton to clarify. Because right now it's presented as a sponsor: the video has a sponsor segment, and Lapierre even thanks Proton for sponsoring him.

                            If he's lying, then Proton should state that he lied.
                            + him "just using an affiliate link" would still mean that Proton is okay with a fascist influencer bringing them money and customers.

                            yaxu@post.lurk.orgY This user is from outside of this forum
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                            yaxu@post.lurk.org
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #97

                            @nileane @gotofritz @slothrop you'd have to ask proton to clarify. As far as I can tell, the affiliate link doesn't work, so perhaps someone else has

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                            • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                              RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                              If you’re still using Proton mail:

                              The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                              If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                              UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                              https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                              #proton #fash

                              verboese@nrw.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #98

                              @slothrop and it’s not just mail. The Proton group has several other apps, e. g. Lumo, a european AI which I preferred - up to now. I think I have to think about another alternative here, too 😞

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                              • gatogatogato@ohai.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                gatogatogato@ohai.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #99

                                @Infoseepage @gotofritz @slothrop Never heard of that story nor of Andy Yen. Sounds highly terrifying. I just finished migrating all mail related stuff away from Gmail to Proton. Sucks to start over again.

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                                • yaxu@post.lurk.orgY yaxu@post.lurk.org

                                  @nileane @gotofritz @slothrop you'd have to ask proton to clarify. As far as I can tell, the affiliate link doesn't work, so perhaps someone else has

                                  mdione@en.osm.townM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  mdione@en.osm.town
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #100

                                  @yaxu @nileane @gotofritz @slothrop so this could be done to smear Proton? Has anyone contacted them?

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                                  • mdione@en.osm.townM mdione@en.osm.town

                                    @yaxu @nileane @gotofritz @slothrop so this could be done to smear Proton? Has anyone contacted them?

                                    mdione@en.osm.townM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #101

                                    @yaxu @nileane @gotofritz @slothrop

                                    also, tclarify, did you find a link to thos video in any of the Proton products?

                                    I'm asking mostly becuase just yesterday a friend was talking me about Proton, and it sounded good emough to jump over.

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                                    • R roboro@mastodon.social

                                      @slothrop totally depressed by this. It has been a challenge to migrate all of my mail and friends and family on my domain off of Google's crap infrastructure. Have struggled with some shortcomings in Proton - their alias handling etc is terrible - but I am really upset to hear about fascist leanings etc. I just don't know how to up and migrate a whole bunch of people after a few months of getting people used to the shift.
                                      Why is the world so full of horrible people?

                                      aaron@social.tromdienste.deA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #102
                                      @roboro @slothrop sad to hear this...
                                      #tutamail seems to be the option to go with.
                                      I use their service and follow their blog for some years now and they stick to their core values and I appreciate their work a lot!
                                      Well done @Tutanota - I recommend your work and blog to many people 🙂
                                      tuta.com/
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                                      • radundtat@berlin.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #103

                                        @mzungu @nileane @slothrop Gandi.net

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                                        • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                                          RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                                          If you’re still using Proton mail:

                                          The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                                          If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                                          UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                                          https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                                          #proton #fash

                                          viduschaka@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          viduschaka@mastodon.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #104

                                          @slothrop @protonprivacy

                                          What do you think of Vincent Lapierre and did you really initiate the sponsorship of his videos yourselves? How do you reconcile fascism with data protection?

                                          #antifascism

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