Stockpile advice is not realistic, say low income families
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@BashStKid @afewbugs @vfrmedia @CiaraNi they both have their uses. Spam is perfect if you need a projectile to stave off bears or raiders (i also quite like it when it's sliced about 1cm thick and fried until it's crispy, but don't tell), and Izal is (well, was) a ready supply of tracing paper
@mewsleah @BashStKid @afewbugs @vfrmedia I see I am going to have to look up Izal loo roll. It's starting to sound useful. Multi-purpose!
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@afewbugs @vfrmedia @CiaraNi @BashStKid the problem is, it gets caught in the spam filter.
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@afewbugs @BashStKid @CiaraNi Izal loo roll is long discontinued, but Reform have been putting free newspapers through doors in parts of SE and Eastern England..
@vfrmedia @afewbugs @BashStKid @CiaraNi not just E/SE England we got a piece of Reform labelled wastepaper through our letterbox this morning here in South Devon.
It includes a membership form. I note they are now asking for it to be sent in an envelope with a stamp. I wonder what happened to Freepost? -
@huntingdon @afewbugs Three days' self-sufficiency is the default recommendation in Scandinavian countries too. Seems to be calculated to give emergency services breathing space immediately after a disaster. The seven-day framework for the Hals community doing collective preparation is something they decided to aim for themselves, am extra goal.
Scandinavians may have chosen three days emergency supplies. But look at their social and physical infrastructure compared to the UK's. Seven days seems more prudent.
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Stockpile advice is not realistic, say low income families
"According to Prof Ruth Patrick, from the University of Glasgow, the UK government's guidance "will appear at best tone deaf and at worst almost insulting to the 14 million households currently facing poverty across the UK".
She is leading the Changing Realities project, and added: "There is a profound mis-match between this suggestion and the daily realities for parents and carers on a low income up and down the country who are struggling to get by, especially as costs continue to rise and the temperatures drop."
@afewbugs@social.coop
Two words for government: Chemical Toilets.
Also: fire hazards of cooking stoves in top floor flats.
You can survive on bottled water, alcohol hand sanitiser in place of soap and water for hands, wet wipes for other bits, but not without a header tank of water exclusively for loo flushing.
Unless THEY are to be made freely available, the whole thing falls flat.
News reports show sheeple have resorted to Covid era panic buying, presumably the intent and are not thinking ahead.
The Food Bank dependant must be pretty screwed at the moment, given they rely on tinned food.
Corollary: this is a massive exercise in public deception.
WTF they are trying to distract FROM* must be serious.
Fecking BASTARDS!
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@afewbugs @vfrmedia @CiaraNi @BashStKid Kimchi fried rice!
@jgordon @afewbugs @vfrmedia @BashStKid For stockpiling? Sounds good.
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@vfrmedia @afewbugs @BashStKid @CiaraNi I had to look up what Izal is. It's horrible and I'm glad this isn't a thing in Germany
@LunaDragofelis @CiaraNi @BashStKid @afewbugs
It seems West Germany in 20th century sometimes got better toilet paper than Britain, but the East still had rougher stuff
(I've flipped the language flag to those who don't read German should be able to autotranslate the Wikipedia extract)
>Im Jahre 1928 gründete Hans Klenk in Ludwigsburg die Toilettenpapierfabrik Hakle. Damals bestand eine Rolle aus 1000 Blatt rauen Krepppapiers. Im Jahre 1959 verbreitete sich im Westen Deutschlands – aus Amerika kommend – das weichere Tissue-Papier, das auf der Haut angenehmer ist.[22] Hakle führte das zweilagige (1972) und das dreilagige (1984) sowie das feuchte (1977) Toilettenpapier in Deutschland ein.[2][22] In der DDR blieb Krepppapier die einzig verfügbare Sorte.
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@LunaDragofelis @CiaraNi @BashStKid @afewbugs
It seems West Germany in 20th century sometimes got better toilet paper than Britain, but the East still had rougher stuff
(I've flipped the language flag to those who don't read German should be able to autotranslate the Wikipedia extract)
>Im Jahre 1928 gründete Hans Klenk in Ludwigsburg die Toilettenpapierfabrik Hakle. Damals bestand eine Rolle aus 1000 Blatt rauen Krepppapiers. Im Jahre 1959 verbreitete sich im Westen Deutschlands – aus Amerika kommend – das weichere Tissue-Papier, das auf der Haut angenehmer ist.[22] Hakle führte das zweilagige (1972) und das dreilagige (1984) sowie das feuchte (1977) Toilettenpapier in Deutschland ein.[2][22] In der DDR blieb Krepppapier die einzig verfügbare Sorte.
@vfrmedia @LunaDragofelis @BashStKid @afewbugs I'm torn now between wanting to adopt Kreppapir in English and thinking it could sound like crepe paper.
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@huntingdon @afewbugs Agreed that 7 days' self-sufficiency would be even better, if that is possible for some people and places.
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@vfrmedia @LunaDragofelis @BashStKid @afewbugs I'm torn now between wanting to adopt Kreppapir in English and thinking it could sound like crepe paper.
@CiaraNi @LunaDragofelis @BashStKid @afewbugs
that is exactly what it was!
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@CiaraNi @LunaDragofelis @BashStKid @afewbugs
that is exactly what it was!
@vfrmedia @LunaDragofelis @BashStKid @afewbugs Yikes, looks like sandpaper, which I assume it almost is.
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@vfrmedia @afewbugs @BashStKid @CiaraNi not just E/SE England we got a piece of Reform labelled wastepaper through our letterbox this morning here in South Devon.
It includes a membership form. I note they are now asking for it to be sent in an envelope with a stamp. I wonder what happened to Freepost?@marjolica @vfrmedia @afewbugs @BashStKid @CiaraNi Maybe some well-meaning people have been sending piles of letters to their Freepost address, thereby running up their charges. I've seen it advocated on here. 🤭
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@marjolica @vfrmedia @afewbugs @BashStKid @CiaraNi Maybe some well-meaning people have been sending piles of letters to their Freepost address, thereby running up their charges. I've seen it advocated on here. 🤭
@kbm0 @marjolica @afewbugs @BashStKid @CiaraNi
I've not had one yet (although other people in Ipswich have), and I was planning to use it to line the concrete below my car as I'm doing an oil service soon..
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@moonrabbit @BashStKid @vfrmedia @CiaraNi oh gawd this is how I become Mastodon famous isn't it, as the woman who wipes her bum with bees, just as @TheBreadmonkey will forever be the Creme Egg guy
@afewbugs @BashStKid @vfrmedia @CiaraNi @TheBreadmonkey
i ... don't know what that's about, and i think i prefer it that way?but as for catching enough of them, fair. you'd need fewer of the massive blue-black-violet one though, if that helps?
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@vfrmedia @afewbugs @BashStKid @CiaraNi not just E/SE England we got a piece of Reform labelled wastepaper through our letterbox this morning here in South Devon.
It includes a membership form. I note they are now asking for it to be sent in an envelope with a stamp. I wonder what happened to Freepost?@marjolica @vfrmedia @BashStKid @CiaraNi as far as I know it's still valid https://social.v.st/@quixoticgeek/117518470529659954
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@afewbugs @BashStKid @CiaraNi Izal loo roll is long discontinued, but Reform have been putting free newspapers through doors in parts of SE and Eastern England..
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@marjolica @vfrmedia @afewbugs @BashStKid @CiaraNi Maybe some well-meaning people have been sending piles of letters to their Freepost address, thereby running up their charges. I've seen it advocated on here. 🤭
@kbm0 @marjolica @vfrmedia @afewbugs @CiaraNi Young anarchists today, eh? No thought for poor fascist parties down to their last £5m.
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@vfrmedia @CiaraNi @BashStKid tbf these are our go to camping meals with packet rice, I'd be very happy subsisting on them for a bit https://adf-foods.com/our-brands/ashoka/shelf-table-products/ready-to-eat/ (The distinction between "vegan" and "normal" does make me snigger a bit)
@afewbugs sorry for piping up but I’m wondering how you get hold of them? @vfrmedia @CiaraNi @BashStKid
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@afewbugs sorry for piping up but I’m wondering how you get hold of them? @vfrmedia @CiaraNi @BashStKid
@janestegerlewis @afewbugs @CiaraNi @BashStKid
I just realised I've actually had some of these, I found them in a shop run by Desi (South Asian) folk in town when I had to go to the opticians (its on the same street).
Looking at some of the reviews, they are popular with taxi uncles, soldiers, outsourced workers and others who might be separated from their families.
There's usually at least one shop like this (and sometimes multiple) in most larger towns and cities (although I do feel a bit of imposter syndrome when in them as despite being British Asian myself I don't always know what half the things in there are, which is why I was attracted to these ready meals)
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@janestegerlewis @afewbugs @CiaraNi @BashStKid
I just realised I've actually had some of these, I found them in a shop run by Desi (South Asian) folk in town when I had to go to the opticians (its on the same street).
Looking at some of the reviews, they are popular with taxi uncles, soldiers, outsourced workers and others who might be separated from their families.
There's usually at least one shop like this (and sometimes multiple) in most larger towns and cities (although I do feel a bit of imposter syndrome when in them as despite being British Asian myself I don't always know what half the things in there are, which is why I was attracted to these ready meals)
@vfrmedia ha! Id be the same but I’ve got no chance in the remote West Coast of Ireland. I’d need to order from somewhere online.
@afewbugs @CiaraNi @BashStKid
