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Stockpile advice is not realistic, say low income families

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  • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

    @LunaDragofelis @CiaraNi @BashStKid @afewbugs

    It seems West Germany in 20th century sometimes got better toilet paper than Britain, but the East still had rougher stuff

    (I've flipped the language flag to those who don't read German should be able to autotranslate the Wikipedia extract)

    >Im Jahre 1928 gründete Hans Klenk in Ludwigsburg die Toilettenpapierfabrik Hakle. Damals bestand eine Rolle aus 1000 Blatt rauen Krepppapiers. Im Jahre 1959 verbreitete sich im Westen Deutschlands – aus Amerika kommend – das weichere Tissue-Papier, das auf der Haut angenehmer ist.[22] Hakle führte das zweilagige (1972) und das dreilagige (1984) sowie das feuchte (1977) Toilettenpapier in Deutschland ein.[2][22] In der DDR blieb Krepppapier die einzig verfügbare Sorte.

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    #33

    @vfrmedia @LunaDragofelis @BashStKid @afewbugs I'm torn now between wanting to adopt Kreppapir in English and thinking it could sound like crepe paper.

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    • huntingdon@mstdn.socialH huntingdon@mstdn.social

      @CiaraNi @afewbugs

      Scandinavians may have chosen three days emergency supplies. But look at their social and physical infrastructure compared to the UK's. Seven days seems more prudent.

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      #34

      @huntingdon @afewbugs Agreed that 7 days' self-sufficiency would be even better, if that is possible for some people and places.

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      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

        @vfrmedia @LunaDragofelis @BashStKid @afewbugs I'm torn now between wanting to adopt Kreppapir in English and thinking it could sound like crepe paper.

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        #35

        @CiaraNi @LunaDragofelis @BashStKid @afewbugs

        that is exactly what it was!

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        • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

          @CiaraNi @LunaDragofelis @BashStKid @afewbugs

          that is exactly what it was!

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          #36

          @vfrmedia @LunaDragofelis @BashStKid @afewbugs Yikes, looks like sandpaper, which I assume it almost is.

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          • marjolica@social.linux.pizzaM marjolica@social.linux.pizza

            @vfrmedia @afewbugs @BashStKid @CiaraNi not just E/SE England we got a piece of Reform labelled wastepaper through our letterbox this morning here in South Devon.
            It includes a membership form. I note they are now asking for it to be sent in an envelope with a stamp. I wonder what happened to Freepost?

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            #37

            @marjolica @vfrmedia @afewbugs @BashStKid @CiaraNi Maybe some well-meaning people have been sending piles of letters to their Freepost address, thereby running up their charges. I've seen it advocated on here. 🤭

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            • kbm0@mastodon.socialK kbm0@mastodon.social

              @marjolica @vfrmedia @afewbugs @BashStKid @CiaraNi Maybe some well-meaning people have been sending piles of letters to their Freepost address, thereby running up their charges. I've seen it advocated on here. 🤭

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              #38

              @kbm0 @marjolica @afewbugs @BashStKid @CiaraNi

              I've not had one yet (although other people in Ipswich have), and I was planning to use it to line the concrete below my car as I'm doing an oil service soon..

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              • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                @moonrabbit @BashStKid @vfrmedia @CiaraNi oh gawd this is how I become Mastodon famous isn't it, as the woman who wipes her bum with bees, just as @TheBreadmonkey will forever be the Creme Egg guy

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                #39

                @afewbugs @BashStKid @vfrmedia @CiaraNi @TheBreadmonkey
                i ... don't know what that's about, and i think i prefer it that way?

                but as for catching enough of them, fair. you'd need fewer of the massive blue-black-violet one though, if that helps?

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                • marjolica@social.linux.pizzaM marjolica@social.linux.pizza

                  @vfrmedia @afewbugs @BashStKid @CiaraNi not just E/SE England we got a piece of Reform labelled wastepaper through our letterbox this morning here in South Devon.
                  It includes a membership form. I note they are now asking for it to be sent in an envelope with a stamp. I wonder what happened to Freepost?

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                  #40

                  @marjolica @vfrmedia @BashStKid @CiaraNi as far as I know it's still valid https://social.v.st/@quixoticgeek/117518470529659954

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                  • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

                    @afewbugs @BashStKid @CiaraNi Izal loo roll is long discontinued, but Reform have been putting free newspapers through doors in parts of SE and Eastern England..

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                    #41

                    @vfrmedia @afewbugs @CiaraNi Is that the new Reform shitepaper, all the lies, all the time?
                    It would be considerate to Freepost it back to Reform, with a PLEASE RECYCLE RESPONSIBLY on the front.

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                    • kbm0@mastodon.socialK kbm0@mastodon.social

                      @marjolica @vfrmedia @afewbugs @BashStKid @CiaraNi Maybe some well-meaning people have been sending piles of letters to their Freepost address, thereby running up their charges. I've seen it advocated on here. 🤭

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                      #42

                      @kbm0 @marjolica @vfrmedia @afewbugs @CiaraNi Young anarchists today, eh? No thought for poor fascist parties down to their last £5m.

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                      • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                        @vfrmedia @CiaraNi @BashStKid tbf these are our go to camping meals with packet rice, I'd be very happy subsisting on them for a bit https://adf-foods.com/our-brands/ashoka/shelf-table-products/ready-to-eat/ (The distinction between "vegan" and "normal" does make me snigger a bit)

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                        #43

                        @afewbugs sorry for piping up but I’m wondering how you get hold of them? @vfrmedia @CiaraNi @BashStKid

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                        • janestegerlewis@mastodon.worldJ janestegerlewis@mastodon.world

                          @afewbugs sorry for piping up but I’m wondering how you get hold of them? @vfrmedia @CiaraNi @BashStKid

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                          #44

                          @janestegerlewis @afewbugs @CiaraNi @BashStKid

                          I just realised I've actually had some of these, I found them in a shop run by Desi (South Asian) folk in town when I had to go to the opticians (its on the same street).

                          Looking at some of the reviews, they are popular with taxi uncles, soldiers, outsourced workers and others who might be separated from their families.

                          There's usually at least one shop like this (and sometimes multiple) in most larger towns and cities (although I do feel a bit of imposter syndrome when in them as despite being British Asian myself I don't always know what half the things in there are, which is why I was attracted to these ready meals)

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                          • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

                            @janestegerlewis @afewbugs @CiaraNi @BashStKid

                            I just realised I've actually had some of these, I found them in a shop run by Desi (South Asian) folk in town when I had to go to the opticians (its on the same street).

                            Looking at some of the reviews, they are popular with taxi uncles, soldiers, outsourced workers and others who might be separated from their families.

                            There's usually at least one shop like this (and sometimes multiple) in most larger towns and cities (although I do feel a bit of imposter syndrome when in them as despite being British Asian myself I don't always know what half the things in there are, which is why I was attracted to these ready meals)

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                            #45

                            @vfrmedia ha! Id be the same but I’ve got no chance in the remote West Coast of Ireland. I’d need to order from somewhere online. 😀@afewbugs @CiaraNi @BashStKid

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                            • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

                              @janestegerlewis @afewbugs @CiaraNi @BashStKid

                              I just realised I've actually had some of these, I found them in a shop run by Desi (South Asian) folk in town when I had to go to the opticians (its on the same street).

                              Looking at some of the reviews, they are popular with taxi uncles, soldiers, outsourced workers and others who might be separated from their families.

                              There's usually at least one shop like this (and sometimes multiple) in most larger towns and cities (although I do feel a bit of imposter syndrome when in them as despite being British Asian myself I don't always know what half the things in there are, which is why I was attracted to these ready meals)

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                              #46

                              @vfrmedia do you remember if you thought it was ok? @afewbugs @CiaraNi @BashStKid

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                              • janestegerlewis@mastodon.worldJ janestegerlewis@mastodon.world

                                @vfrmedia do you remember if you thought it was ok? @afewbugs @CiaraNi @BashStKid

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                                #47

                                @janestegerlewis

                                it was about the same as a "South Asian inspired" ready meal from a mainstream British supermarket, maybe /slightly/ better (or at least with more spices)

                                @afewbugs @CiaraNi @BashStKid

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                                • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

                                  @janestegerlewis

                                  it was about the same as a "South Asian inspired" ready meal from a mainstream British supermarket, maybe /slightly/ better (or at least with more spices)

                                  @afewbugs @CiaraNi @BashStKid

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                                  #48

                                  @vfrmedia thanks! I can’t even get those. @afewbugs @CiaraNi @BashStKid

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                                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                    @mewsleah @BashStKid @afewbugs @vfrmedia I see I am going to have to look up Izal loo roll. It's starting to sound useful. Multi-purpose!

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                                    #49

                                    @CiaraNi @BashStKid @afewbugs @vfrmedia unfortunately it seems its bottom fell out of the market

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                                    • lunadragofelis@void.lgbtL lunadragofelis@void.lgbt
                                      @vfrmedia @afewbugs @BashStKid @CiaraNi I had to look up what Izal is. It's horrible and I'm glad this isn't a thing in Germany
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                                      @LunaDragofelis @CiaraNi @BashStKid @afewbugs @vfrmedia We called it "Scrape & Slide".

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                                      • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                                        @vfrmedia @CiaraNi @BashStKid my parents stocked up on tinned food after September the 11th, my Mum called it her Bin Larder. It took them years to get through it because it turns out no one actually likes Spam

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                                        #51

                                        @afewbugs @vfrmedia @CiaraNi @BashStKid We made Princes ham more edible with pasta and a mushroom soup packet, as a quick meal when I was a kid.

                                        Although yeah spam.

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                                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                          @afewbugs Good to see this issue highlighted. This reminded me of a motivating news story here (Denmark) about Hals, a town of 2,500 residents, many elderly. They've pooled their emergency preparations. As a community, they've collectively made sure everyone has enough to last 7 days; there's designated shelter spaces; the local shop has pre-planned emergency stock boxes etc. Great way to take care of everyone, including those for whom money, mobility or space is tight.

                                          https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/i-denne-skal-alle-vaere-klar-til-de-kriser-som-ingen-haaber-kommer

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                                          @CiaraNi @afewbugs

                                          That is a lot of initiative: I love activists who are thinking a bit outside the box. Old people will save us in the end :^)

                                          “Birgit Sørensen, retiree
                                          She leads a group of activists who are currently trying to get the town’s roughly 2,500 residents to prepare as best they can—especially since a large proportion of the town’s residents are elderly.”

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