The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization.
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@cararemixed @cwebber That's not mitigating the centralised nature of how DNS works today, just changing the centre of authority. We need to go full fedi/p2p for name-to-address resolution, and probably (almost certainly) all the other things DNS gets (mis)used for.
@mikro2nd @cwebber Honestly I'm so bored with "the lets decentralize all the things" line of arguments. Go ahead, do it! Meanwhile, having alternative authorities isn't going to solve everyone's problems but it sure introduces fewer problems. My position is that only one option is the worst of all options. Having choices changes the dynamics.
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Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.
@cwebber@social.coop (
Akira) My system has realized this for as long we have been on fedi. 
@cwebber@social.coop (
) though, now I wonder if there are any truely decentralized alternatives? I initially thought IP addresses were safe enough, but the underlying mechanics (fixed-length + assigned MAC addresses) make that not as decentralized as I thought. -
Autistici/Inventati's domains have now been revoked. I updated the link in the above post with a wayback machine copy.
Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.
@cwebber petnames when?
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Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.
@cwebber@social.coop ( Akira) My system has realized this for as long we have been on fedi. @Chishiki611 @cwebber The fact that I can't just make any TLD real without asking daddy ICANN for a licese, only for that to cost an insane amount of money, is so insane. -
@cararemixed "alternative DNS systems" doesn't really help though, because the TLS CA system is designed to work with the centralized view of "DNS truth"
@cwebber @cararemixed this is one of the reasons I never want to enable HSTS on my website
the plan for it is to be a site about myself, meltcats (my species), all my tech projects (like Kittyscript), my political views and an Akkoma instance.
but all that the website is right now is two glorified hello world pages I wrote myself and a few redirects to them.
yay for ADHD executive dysfunction. I'm paying €23 every month for a server I completely underutilize because I can't make myself follow plans.
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@alienghic i am.. skeptical that a bunch of dorks sharing a host file is comparable to protecting someone from a fascist.
idk propose to register the domain name as a proxy, start your own antifascist collective and share the legal burden of this kind of work, etc. its just a bit frustrating when the 'tech crowds' focus on their ability to access a website and then lose interest.Being able to talk to people outside of government propaganda is a step toward being able to resist an oppressive government.
Look at how much effort Putin puts into restricting what social media russians can access and all the limitations placed on gathering.
It's not enough, but it's a start.
And yes we should be doing more communication over tor, i2p, or maybe even paper.
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Autistici/Inventati's domains have now been revoked. I updated the link in the above post with a wayback machine copy.
Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.
@cwebber Not all of them - https://www.inventati.org is still up, but https://www.autistici.org is gone
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the vast majority of the web is still not AI shit and while Nazis have always been allowed on the web, it has only been very recently that AI is a problem.
you're gonna argue that our conservative relatives should never have been allowed to use the same internet we do? that pushing them to instead use a web shared by fascists where our voices were not present would have been better for society?
the fedi doesn't just moderate harassment. it limits all speech that isn't progressive.
@wjmaggos I would like to introduce you to a bunch of instances I blocked, if you want to know how well "the web" moderates non-progressive views.
But you have a bone to pick, and from the tone, it's not with me.
So chill for a week.
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@wjmaggos I would like to introduce you to a bunch of instances I blocked, if you want to know how well "the web" moderates non-progressive views.
But you have a bone to pick, and from the tone, it's not with me.
So chill for a week.
we seem to be talking past each other.
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Autistici/Inventati's domains have now been revoked. I updated the link in the above post with a wayback machine copy.
Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.
@cwebber Noblogs.org blogs gives a timeout right now but the subdomain cavalette (which looks like a sort of status page and way to communicate with all their very many users) is still up.
https://cavallette.noblogs.org/
And https://www.inventati.org/ is also up.
Please edit your post. By pointing people to archive.org (who removed posts related to the Amnesty UK report story) you're not giving people the option to check out other links and older or newer posts on https://cavallette.noblogs.org/
Thanks in advance
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The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/
But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2
I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.
EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed
EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link
@cwebber what should I read about which TLDs can be controlled by the US government in this way?
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@onemoreday @cwebber You say "now" like this is a new thing https://dn.org/government-influence-on-dns-through-domain-seizures-and-takedowns/
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@Chishiki611 @cwebber The fact that I can't just make any TLD real without asking daddy ICANN for a licese, only for that to cost an insane amount of money, is so insane.
@siblingsofthevoid@void.lgbt @cwebber@social.coop (
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The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/
But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2
I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.
EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed
EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link
@cwebber
"Antifascism and anticapitalism are not terrorism. Protesting is not terrorism. And everyone has the right to speak out and to struggle for humanity. " -
@cwebber noblogs domain at least seems to still be accessible on my end in Europe. Do we know if this is a US specific block, or perhaps I am just getting a cached DNS response?
(Normally I am in the US but I happen to be in Europe right now)
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Autistici/Inventati's domains have now been revoked. I updated the link in the above post with a wayback machine copy.
Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.
Their Authoritative DNS servers are still up.
I grabbed the list of nameservers with dig NS investici.org and then used that to make this unbound forward zone.
forward-zone:
name: "autistici.org"
forward-addr: 93.190.126.19
forward-addr: 198.167.222.108
forward-addr: 185.218.207.228
forward-addr: 2c0f:f930:0:4::108
forward-addr: 2a11:7980:1::2:0
forward-addr: 2a12:4180:dc1:929::42I duplicated the zone for autistici.org, investici.org, and noblogs.org, all of which seem to work. I can clone some projects off of git.autistici.org/public.
Not sure if if noblogs.org has been revoked yet.
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@SRAZKVT the root servers are the issue...
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@Chishiki611 @cwebber The fact that I can't just make any TLD real without asking daddy ICANN for a licese, only for that to cost an insane amount of money, is so insane.@siblingsofthevoid @Chishiki611 @cwebber if a TLD didn't cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, we would long already have .meow AND .furry, and not both projects competing for the ridiculous amount of funding needed and one being accused of hurting the other's chances of success
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@solonovamax @cwebber Maybe it's just still cached on your DNS server.
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Their Authoritative DNS servers are still up.
I grabbed the list of nameservers with dig NS investici.org and then used that to make this unbound forward zone.
forward-zone:
name: "autistici.org"
forward-addr: 93.190.126.19
forward-addr: 198.167.222.108
forward-addr: 185.218.207.228
forward-addr: 2c0f:f930:0:4::108
forward-addr: 2a11:7980:1::2:0
forward-addr: 2a12:4180:dc1:929::42I duplicated the zone for autistici.org, investici.org, and noblogs.org, all of which seem to work. I can clone some projects off of git.autistici.org/public.
Not sure if if noblogs.org has been revoked yet.
I wonder if unbound should have a NS forward zone mode that is intentionally designed to query over services like tor, i2p, yggdrasil or veilid.
