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  3. Citing “lived experience” as evidence something works is literally the tactic of homeopaths and antivaxxers when confronted by large-scale or structured studies disproving their claims.

Citing “lived experience” as evidence something works is literally the tactic of homeopaths and antivaxxers when confronted by large-scale or structured studies disproving their claims.

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  • baldur@toot.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
    baldur@toot.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Citing “lived experience” as evidence something works is literally the tactic of homeopaths and antivaxxers when confronted by large-scale or structured studies disproving their claims. That this now seems to be the go-to argument of the pro-“AI” crowd is a huge red flag.

    baldur@toot.cafeB skjeggtroll@mastodon.onlineS starkrg@myside-yourside.netS linhead@d-64.socialL trisweb@m.trisweb.comT 9 Replies Last reply
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    • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

      Citing “lived experience” as evidence something works is literally the tactic of homeopaths and antivaxxers when confronted by large-scale or structured studies disproving their claims. That this now seems to be the go-to argument of the pro-“AI” crowd is a huge red flag.

      baldur@toot.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
      baldur@toot.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      Did not expect this to draw out the antivaxx crowd, but I should have. What a world we live in.

      bremner@mathstodon.xyzB fedithom@social.saarlandF petko@social.petko.meP 2qx@mastodon.social2 4 Replies Last reply
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      • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

        Did not expect this to draw out the antivaxx crowd, but I should have. What a world we live in.

        bremner@mathstodon.xyzB This user is from outside of this forum
        bremner@mathstodon.xyzB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @baldur homeopaths are attacking you too, it's just in very small amounts.

        shapr@recurse.socialS baldur@toot.cafeB napalousa@pagan.plusN edbruce@infosec.exchangeE kittyboy77@tech.lgbtK 5 Replies Last reply
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        • patrickoldhiker@ohai.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
          patrickoldhiker@ohai.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
          patrickoldhiker@ohai.social
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          #4

          @Dangerous_beans @baldur I have just learned that my instance, ohai.social, does. Sounds like I should be happy about that.

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          • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

            Citing “lived experience” as evidence something works is literally the tactic of homeopaths and antivaxxers when confronted by large-scale or structured studies disproving their claims. That this now seems to be the go-to argument of the pro-“AI” crowd is a huge red flag.

            baldur@toot.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
            baldur@toot.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            Also, I warned about exactly this – that "AI" fans risked getting pulled into the same kind of mindset and false ideas as naturopaths and homeopaths – over a year ago under the heading "Self-experimenting with psychological hazards is always a bad idea"

            https://www.baldurbjarnason.com/2025/trusting-your-own-judgement-on-ai/#self-experimenting-with-psychological-hazards-is-always-a-bad-idea

            The usual suspects responded with something along the lines of "well that makes me a proud naturopath"

            baldur@toot.cafeB cyberquixote@infosec.exchangeC goulien@mastodon.socialG 3 Replies Last reply
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            • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

              Citing “lived experience” as evidence something works is literally the tactic of homeopaths and antivaxxers when confronted by large-scale or structured studies disproving their claims. That this now seems to be the go-to argument of the pro-“AI” crowd is a huge red flag.

              skjeggtroll@mastodon.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
              skjeggtroll@mastodon.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
              skjeggtroll@mastodon.online
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              #6

              @baldur

              Also, "lived experience" as opposed to what? Experiences from the year you spent dead for tax purposes?

              baldur@toot.cafeB ozzelot@mstdn.socialO 2 Replies Last reply
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              • skjeggtroll@mastodon.onlineS skjeggtroll@mastodon.online

                @baldur

                Also, "lived experience" as opposed to what? Experiences from the year you spent dead for tax purposes?

                baldur@toot.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
                baldur@toot.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @skjeggtroll 😆

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                • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

                  Also, I warned about exactly this – that "AI" fans risked getting pulled into the same kind of mindset and false ideas as naturopaths and homeopaths – over a year ago under the heading "Self-experimenting with psychological hazards is always a bad idea"

                  https://www.baldurbjarnason.com/2025/trusting-your-own-judgement-on-ai/#self-experimenting-with-psychological-hazards-is-always-a-bad-idea

                  The usual suspects responded with something along the lines of "well that makes me a proud naturopath"

                  baldur@toot.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
                  baldur@toot.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  My "lived experience" is that your shit stinks.

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                    #9

                    @Dangerous_beans @baldur of course it’s a racist shit with a pepe profile picture. I had view this thread in a browser window where i’m not logged in to see it, so i know i’m on an excellent instance that blocks those kinds of things.

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                    • skjeggtroll@mastodon.onlineS skjeggtroll@mastodon.online

                      @baldur

                      Also, "lived experience" as opposed to what? Experiences from the year you spent dead for tax purposes?

                      ozzelot@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @skjeggtroll
                      ooh that would be handy
                      @baldur

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                      • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

                        Citing “lived experience” as evidence something works is literally the tactic of homeopaths and antivaxxers when confronted by large-scale or structured studies disproving their claims. That this now seems to be the go-to argument of the pro-“AI” crowd is a huge red flag.

                        starkrg@myside-yourside.netS This user is from outside of this forum
                        starkrg@myside-yourside.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @baldur There is a place for lived experience, but it's *way* after actual evidence.

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                        • starkrg@myside-yourside.netS starkrg@myside-yourside.net

                          @baldur There is a place for lived experience, but it's *way* after actual evidence.

                          baldur@toot.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
                          baldur@toot.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @StarkRG Exactly.

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                          • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

                            Did not expect this to draw out the antivaxx crowd, but I should have. What a world we live in.

                            fedithom@social.saarlandF This user is from outside of this forum
                            fedithom@social.saarlandF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @baldur

                            Thanks for that. Valuable additions to my block list 🙂

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                            • bremner@mathstodon.xyzB bremner@mathstodon.xyz

                              @baldur homeopaths are attacking you too, it's just in very small amounts.

                              shapr@recurse.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @bremner @baldur is that the original micro aggression?

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                              • bremner@mathstodon.xyzB bremner@mathstodon.xyz

                                @baldur homeopaths are attacking you too, it's just in very small amounts.

                                baldur@toot.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
                                baldur@toot.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @bremner 😆

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                                • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

                                  Also, I warned about exactly this – that "AI" fans risked getting pulled into the same kind of mindset and false ideas as naturopaths and homeopaths – over a year ago under the heading "Self-experimenting with psychological hazards is always a bad idea"

                                  https://www.baldurbjarnason.com/2025/trusting-your-own-judgement-on-ai/#self-experimenting-with-psychological-hazards-is-always-a-bad-idea

                                  The usual suspects responded with something along the lines of "well that makes me a proud naturopath"

                                  cyberquixote@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  cyberquixote@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @baldur the problem with lived experience is it never scales symmetrically

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                                  • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

                                    Citing “lived experience” as evidence something works is literally the tactic of homeopaths and antivaxxers when confronted by large-scale or structured studies disproving their claims. That this now seems to be the go-to argument of the pro-“AI” crowd is a huge red flag.

                                    linhead@d-64.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                                    linhead@d-64.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @baldur Anectdotic evidence is no evidence at all.

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                                    • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

                                      Did not expect this to draw out the antivaxx crowd, but I should have. What a world we live in.

                                      petko@social.petko.meP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @baldur each time this happens the defederation lists get richer.

                                      Edit: wow, I had 53 accounts stored from this one nazi instance... Good riddance!

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                                      • baldur@toot.cafeB baldur@toot.cafe

                                        Citing “lived experience” as evidence something works is literally the tactic of homeopaths and antivaxxers when confronted by large-scale or structured studies disproving their claims. That this now seems to be the go-to argument of the pro-“AI” crowd is a huge red flag.

                                        trisweb@m.trisweb.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @baldur it’s also an entirely valid statement, enabling minority communities to express their struggle with racism and marginalization.

                                        The fact that the pro-AI community, and frankly also the anti-vaxxers, have co-opted it is an insult to its origins. It’s at the same time making fun of the minority communities who used it as a plea for empathy and understanding, and stealing its power and trying to co-opt it to manipulate and influence. All in all reprehensible.

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                                        • lucillevalentine@toad.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @EvolLove @baldur sorry for deleting my response. I know it's not usually done. But I just had a look at your evollove profile and nearly vomited.

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