Citing “lived experience” as evidence something works is literally the tactic of homeopaths and antivaxxers when confronted by large-scale or structured studies disproving their claims.
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Citing “lived experience” as evidence something works is literally the tactic of homeopaths and antivaxxers when confronted by large-scale or structured studies disproving their claims. That this now seems to be the go-to argument of the pro-“AI” crowd is a huge red flag.
Also, "lived experience" as opposed to what? Experiences from the year you spent dead for tax purposes?
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Also, "lived experience" as opposed to what? Experiences from the year you spent dead for tax purposes?
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Also, I warned about exactly this – that "AI" fans risked getting pulled into the same kind of mindset and false ideas as naturopaths and homeopaths – over a year ago under the heading "Self-experimenting with psychological hazards is always a bad idea"
The usual suspects responded with something along the lines of "well that makes me a proud naturopath"
My "lived experience" is that your shit stinks.
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@Dangerous_beans @baldur of course it’s a racist shit with a pepe profile picture. I had view this thread in a browser window where i’m not logged in to see it, so i know i’m on an excellent instance that blocks those kinds of things.
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Also, "lived experience" as opposed to what? Experiences from the year you spent dead for tax purposes?
@skjeggtroll
ooh that would be handy
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Citing “lived experience” as evidence something works is literally the tactic of homeopaths and antivaxxers when confronted by large-scale or structured studies disproving their claims. That this now seems to be the go-to argument of the pro-“AI” crowd is a huge red flag.
@baldur There is a place for lived experience, but it's *way* after actual evidence.
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@baldur There is a place for lived experience, but it's *way* after actual evidence.
@StarkRG Exactly.
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Did not expect this to draw out the antivaxx crowd, but I should have. What a world we live in.
Thanks for that. Valuable additions to my block list

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@baldur homeopaths are attacking you too, it's just in very small amounts.
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@baldur homeopaths are attacking you too, it's just in very small amounts.
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Also, I warned about exactly this – that "AI" fans risked getting pulled into the same kind of mindset and false ideas as naturopaths and homeopaths – over a year ago under the heading "Self-experimenting with psychological hazards is always a bad idea"
The usual suspects responded with something along the lines of "well that makes me a proud naturopath"
@baldur the problem with lived experience is it never scales symmetrically
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Citing “lived experience” as evidence something works is literally the tactic of homeopaths and antivaxxers when confronted by large-scale or structured studies disproving their claims. That this now seems to be the go-to argument of the pro-“AI” crowd is a huge red flag.
@baldur Anectdotic evidence is no evidence at all.
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Did not expect this to draw out the antivaxx crowd, but I should have. What a world we live in.
@baldur each time this happens the defederation lists get richer.

Edit: wow, I had 53 accounts stored from this one nazi instance... Good riddance!
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Citing “lived experience” as evidence something works is literally the tactic of homeopaths and antivaxxers when confronted by large-scale or structured studies disproving their claims. That this now seems to be the go-to argument of the pro-“AI” crowd is a huge red flag.
@baldur it’s also an entirely valid statement, enabling minority communities to express their struggle with racism and marginalization.
The fact that the pro-AI community, and frankly also the anti-vaxxers, have co-opted it is an insult to its origins. It’s at the same time making fun of the minority communities who used it as a plea for empathy and understanding, and stealing its power and trying to co-opt it to manipulate and influence. All in all reprehensible.
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@baldur homeopaths are attacking you too, it's just in very small amounts.
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@baldur homeopaths are attacking you too, it's just in very small amounts.
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@baldur homeopaths are attacking you too, it's just in very small amounts.
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Citing “lived experience” as evidence something works is literally the tactic of homeopaths and antivaxxers when confronted by large-scale or structured studies disproving their claims. That this now seems to be the go-to argument of the pro-“AI” crowd is a huge red flag.
Any excuse to post this experimental scientific rebuttal of homeopathy. I particularly like how he skewers them on the spit of their own batshit crazy protocols. It's 'the memory of piss' to paraphrase one homeopathic justification.
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@baldur the problem with lived experience is it never scales symmetrically
@cyberquixote @baldur the problem with "lived experience" is that it is by definition subjective, not verifiable, doesn't transfer, and is possibly just bullshit.
Remember: homeopathy works, because placebos work.
There are actual scientific studies that prove that not taking any medicine can make you better, EVEN IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE TAKING A PLACEBO!
It's the typical arrogance of the tech world, who think they are exempt from psychological effects that provably affect every human.

