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  • randomgeek@masto.hackers.townR randomgeek@masto.hackers.town

    @dlakelan @d_rift to be fair I don’t regret building the web. I regret building all its parasitic industries that promised to be symbiotic.

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    #155

    @randomgeek @dlakelan in an SF accent, "trust us bro" rhymes with "symbiot", so I guess the con was there all along, but. Yeah, same.

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    • pteryx@dice.campP pteryx@dice.camp

      @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
      I'm starting to suspect that the vast majority of people *didn't notice* that for about a decade and a half there, the Net was a public space primarily about things that *weren't* corporate.

      (Before that it was more restricted-access, after that it had been captured.)

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      #156

      @pteryx @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan wasn't that an amazing time for humanity?

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      • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD douglasvb@m.ai6yr.org

        @pteryx @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan wasn't that an amazing time for humanity?

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        #157

        @douglasvb @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan
        It was! And it allowed me to actually make friends for once, too!

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        • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD douglasvb@m.ai6yr.org

          @dlakelan There isn't a "big mood" style of expression big enough to express the size of the mood I'm currently experiencing from your toot.

          This was all a mistake. We should go back to disconnected BBSes. Or maybe ditch all the digital stuff and return to encyclopedias.

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          #158

          @douglasvb @dlakelan YES

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          • pteryx@dice.campP pteryx@dice.camp

            @douglasvb @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan
            It was! And it allowed me to actually make friends for once, too!

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            #159

            @pteryx @aoanla @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan same!!!

            I am STILL friends with people I met online in the early days of the Internet and I've met about 75% of them in person at least once!

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            • maryaustinbooks@mstdn.socialM maryaustinbooks@mstdn.social

              @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
              I want to cry when I think about the blog and lolcat glory days of the 2000s.

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              #160

              @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan man, i miss livejournal.

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              • rothko@beige.partyR rothko@beige.party

                @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan man, i miss livejournal.

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                #161

                @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
                At the very least, Dreamwidth exists. Fork from back when LJ started showing signs of going bad.

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                • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                  Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                  #162

                  @dlakelan I think we're all here.

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                  • pteryx@dice.campP pteryx@dice.camp

                    @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @douglasvb @dlakelan
                    At the very least, Dreamwidth exists. Fork from back when LJ started showing signs of going bad.

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                    #163

                    @pteryx @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan I met so many good people on ElJay. It was a tragedy when it went bad and then got sold to Russia.

                    Remember dead journal? A few friends went over there for a while. What ever happened to that platform?

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                    • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

                      @MamaLake @dlakelan it never really went away, technically. People just stopped paying attention

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                      #164

                      @fluffykittycat @MamaLake @dlakelan
                      It's hard to "pay attention" to what's been claimed by link rot, pulled behind paywalls or login-walls, moved to Discord for a false sense of "safety", deleted out of fear of being scraped by "AI" crawlers, DDoSed by "AI" scrapers, downranked by search engines (yes, I know about Marginalia Search), and/or buried in piles of SEO slop counterfeit pages.

                      It used to be trivial to *find new non-corporate webpages*.

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                      • aleksimanninen@cyberplace.socialA aleksimanninen@cyberplace.social

                        @douglasvb @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan and with https://marginalia-search.com/ you can find it again. It's so beautiful and strange to see the old web again

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                        #165

                        @aleksimanninen @douglasvb @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan Marginalia Search is cool! One of its paradoxes is that it appears to respect sites that reject crawlers and bots (ex: jwz.org) -- so many traditional websites that are still actively maintained may be opaque to it, as their admins try to stem the bot onslaught.

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                          #166

                          RE: https://dice.camp/@pteryx/117368247487117847

                          @joshisanonymous @dlakelan
                          That's part of it, but not all of it. Other parts are more active poisoning, or entropy outstripping the ability to rebuild.

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                          • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                            Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                            #167

                            @dlakelan I cofounded an ISP in 1996. I am really sorry.

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                            • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                              @douglasvb @dlakelan
                              Campfires

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                              #168

                              @GhostOnTheHalfShell @douglasvb @dlakelan

                              & stone tablets

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                              • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD douglasvb@m.ai6yr.org

                                @pteryx @rothko @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan I met so many good people on ElJay. It was a tragedy when it went bad and then got sold to Russia.

                                Remember dead journal? A few friends went over there for a while. What ever happened to that platform?

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                                #169

                                @douglasvb @pteryx @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan i dunno about deadjournal; i ported everything to dreamwidth before deleting my LJ. early adopter, 4-digit user number.... but yeah. russia was the last straw.

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                                • ozdreaming@infosec.exchangeO ozdreaming@infosec.exchange

                                  @aleksimanninen @douglasvb @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan Marginalia Search is cool! One of its paradoxes is that it appears to respect sites that reject crawlers and bots (ex: jwz.org) -- so many traditional websites that are still actively maintained may be opaque to it, as their admins try to stem the bot onslaught.

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                                  #170

                                  @aleksimanninen @douglasvb @MaryAustinBooks @iakobsdesamos @dlakelan now this feels like a Dark Forest hypothesis (if not re: the Fermi paradox), where frontier model bots are the malign intelligences being avoided.

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                                  • meraord@mastodonsweden.seM meraord@mastodonsweden.se

                                    @killick @dlakelan the white *was* easier to read though.

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                                    #171

                                    @meraord @killick @dlakelan
                                    I find light-color-on-dark-color easiest to read on a glowing screen. White-on-black is the take with the strongest contrast, but pale-color-on-black or white-on-very-dark-grey or pale-color-on-very-dark-contrasting-color also works. Didn't much care for pale grey background as a default before.

                                    The shift to black-on-white as the default reads to me as part of the corporatization push, an attempt to make the Web look "respectable".

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                                    • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                                      Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                                      #172

                                      @dlakelan How dare you call me out like that! 🤣

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                                      • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                                        Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                                        #173

                                        @dlakelan Lol I feel like an alien considering i'm 18 here

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                                        • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                                          Fediverse, the social media system for 40+ year old people who built the world wide web and regret it.

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                                          #174

                                          @dlakelan That tracks.

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