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  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

    Authenticity Problem

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    brazmogu@mastodon.gamedev.placeB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #19

    @davidrevoy Ah, yes, one of the most frustraing consequences of this inflation of genAI bubble is how people are giving in to a tendency that anything slightly competent can only have been made by a computer

    People are getting a bit too complacent about being stupid as hell

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    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

      Thanks for the support! Funny thing I wanted to plug here: I've never received comments like that here on the Fediverse , but I get dozens of them, weekly, on the Meta platforms (Facebook/Instagram)...

      I'm really grateful for how this community checks artists' work and actually verifies it's real human art before throwing random accusations.

      This is my favorite place to share for a reason. 💜

      vantablack2000@mastodon.gamedev.placeV This user is from outside of this forum
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      #20

      @davidrevoy I mean I would HOPE people would need a real smoking gun to say that YOUR art is AI. I mean a lot of MFT is Anti-AI, so that would be random if it was made with AI.

      Either way it's usually better to question, but not accuse when it comes to AI I think. Unless it is very much egregiously AI than it's better not to just throw accusations.

      At least in this comic the vibe I get is just wanting to be a critic and not actually appreciating art though.

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      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

        Thanks for the support! Funny thing I wanted to plug here: I've never received comments like that here on the Fediverse , but I get dozens of them, weekly, on the Meta platforms (Facebook/Instagram)...

        I'm really grateful for how this community checks artists' work and actually verifies it's real human art before throwing random accusations.

        This is my favorite place to share for a reason. 💜

        vantablack2000@mastodon.gamedev.placeV This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #21

        @davidrevoy Also I ran out of characters, but really good comic. Glad to see Cepper and Parrot again (Not that the other comics were bad of course I just like the Cepper and Parrot series).

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        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

          Authenticity Problem

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          #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

          jargoggles@kolektiva.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #22

          @davidrevoy
          Yeah, I made it with AI (Artistic Integrity).

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          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

            Authenticity Problem

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            #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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            #23

            @davidrevoy uncannily, those panels look a lot like AI as well. nice work.

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              Authenticity Problem

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              #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

              sobex@social.sciences.reS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #24

              @davidrevoy Feels like a very personal one 🫂

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              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

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                #25

                @davidrevoy On one hand, we know AI in general has a bias for yellow because yellowish images have a higher tendency of getting marked as "good looking" because of the "golden hour" in photography.

                On the other, true, while AI hurts artists, due to that, even more for those who like yellow tones!

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                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

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                  naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #26

                  @davidrevoy I love it so much! A lot of real human #artists and #creatives will find themselves in it.

                  #humanmade #humanMadeArt #noAI

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                  • brazmogu@mastodon.gamedev.placeB brazmogu@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    @davidrevoy Ah, yes, one of the most frustraing consequences of this inflation of genAI bubble is how people are giving in to a tendency that anything slightly competent can only have been made by a computer

                    People are getting a bit too complacent about being stupid as hell

                    me@social.jlamothe.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #27
                    @brazmogu @davidrevoy ...which is ironic, really.
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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      Authenticity Problem

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                      calx@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #28

                      @davidrevoy
                      ayo, nice AI (Actually Interesting) art

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                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                        Authenticity Problem

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                        #29

                        @davidrevoy

                        But their is always souls in your work !

                        The issue with other platform is that people expect ai stuff, they want to see ai stuff and it must look like ai. When they say "it's ai, right" it's not because they don't value your work but because they want to know that they can make a prompt and do the same.

                        I could be completely wrong, but why stay on such places if they don't want ai crap ?

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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          Thanks for the support! Funny thing I wanted to plug here: I've never received comments like that here on the Fediverse , but I get dozens of them, weekly, on the Meta platforms (Facebook/Instagram)...

                          I'm really grateful for how this community checks artists' work and actually verifies it's real human art before throwing random accusations.

                          This is my favorite place to share for a reason. 💜

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                          #30

                          @davidrevoy je ne me suis jamais posé la question parce que je connais ton travail depuis des années. Aucune idée de si je me la poserais si je le découvrais aujourd'hui 😕 Ceci dit, j'essaye toujours de faire bien gaffe avant de dire que quelque chose me semble fait par IA, et je mets les formes possibles quand j'ai un doute.

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                          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                            Authenticity Problem

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                            #31

                            @davidrevoy I hate that I myself sometimes see genuine art and have doubts that it's AI. I guess it makes me pay more attention to the artist behind the art I see which is good.

                            Now that "looking like good art" is something that AI can do, paying attention to what it's conveying and who's making it is more important than ever.

                            I'll take community over mindless consumption everytime

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                            • stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.deS stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de
                              @davidrevoy based on a true story*
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                              #32

                              @stefan @davidrevoy I've seen an artist change their style towards an intentionally more scrappy and wacky one, and the timing suspiciously matched that of the visual slop models becoming widely available.

                              Said artist has been putting out incredible work for the past 15 years and all the AI slop tends to look a lot like their older art.

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                              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

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                                #33

                                @davidrevoy exactly the reason i despise all those youtube videos and such on how to "identify" AI art, every bloody time they just end up driving actual artists off the internet, while the slopsters don't give a damn about their callout posts

                                same with the em—dash

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                                • coffee@cafecreature.clubC coffee@cafecreature.club

                                  @stefan @davidrevoy I've seen an artist change their style towards an intentionally more scrappy and wacky one, and the timing suspiciously matched that of the visual slop models becoming widely available.

                                  Said artist has been putting out incredible work for the past 15 years and all the AI slop tends to look a lot like their older art.

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                                  #34
                                  @coffee Though obvs. you have to consider that AI likely stole their earlier work.
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                                    #35
                                    @friboquen @davidrevoy David sure has some of the best comics (more so the non-AI related ones) around. Mini Fantasy Theater is great
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                                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                      Authenticity Problem

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                                      #36

                                      @davidrevoy Great work as always. Also, I'm in pain now.

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                                      • stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.deS stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de
                                        @coffee Though obvs. you have to consider that AI likely stole their earlier work.
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                                        #37

                                        @stefan That's precisely what I mean. I posit that because AI stole all their work and now puts out very similar-looking slop, they probably got tired of being called out by morons online, and had to change their style out of desperation, simply to look more human.

                                        I think it's going to affect a lot of professional artists: you simply can't draw well anymore without the fear of being mistaken for AI and having to fight the bullshit.

                                        Hell, I'm learning to draw just to show AI a middle finger, and the comic I'm planning on releasing eventually will be done entirely with a pencil, a felt tip pen, and pastel charcoals in Concepts, and I'm going to keep the planning layer in the final works as the proof of humanity.

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                                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                          Authenticity Problem

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                                          #38

                                          @davidrevoy
                                          C'est sur aussi si tu ne met pas un certificat d'authenticité sans IA comment tu veux qu'on sache 😁

                                          🤗

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