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  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

    Authenticity Problem

    Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus

    #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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    #33

    @davidrevoy exactly the reason i despise all those youtube videos and such on how to "identify" AI art, every bloody time they just end up driving actual artists off the internet, while the slopsters don't give a damn about their callout posts

    same with the em—dash

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    • coffee@cafecreature.clubC coffee@cafecreature.club

      @stefan @davidrevoy I've seen an artist change their style towards an intentionally more scrappy and wacky one, and the timing suspiciously matched that of the visual slop models becoming widely available.

      Said artist has been putting out incredible work for the past 15 years and all the AI slop tends to look a lot like their older art.

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      #34
      @coffee Though obvs. you have to consider that AI likely stole their earlier work.
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      • stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #35
        @friboquen @davidrevoy David sure has some of the best comics (more so the non-AI related ones) around. Mini Fantasy Theater is great
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        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

          Authenticity Problem

          Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus

          #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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          #36

          @davidrevoy Great work as always. Also, I'm in pain now.

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          • stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.deS stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de
            @coffee Though obvs. you have to consider that AI likely stole their earlier work.
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            #37

            @stefan That's precisely what I mean. I posit that because AI stole all their work and now puts out very similar-looking slop, they probably got tired of being called out by morons online, and had to change their style out of desperation, simply to look more human.

            I think it's going to affect a lot of professional artists: you simply can't draw well anymore without the fear of being mistaken for AI and having to fight the bullshit.

            Hell, I'm learning to draw just to show AI a middle finger, and the comic I'm planning on releasing eventually will be done entirely with a pencil, a felt tip pen, and pastel charcoals in Concepts, and I'm going to keep the planning layer in the final works as the proof of humanity.

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              Authenticity Problem

              Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus

              #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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              #38

              @davidrevoy
              C'est sur aussi si tu ne met pas un certificat d'authenticité sans IA comment tu veux qu'on sache 😁

              🤗

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              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                Authenticity Problem

                Bonus timelapse: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/064.html#bonus

                #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                #39

                @davidrevoy <ugly crying>

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                • coffee@cafecreature.clubC coffee@cafecreature.club

                  @stefan That's precisely what I mean. I posit that because AI stole all their work and now puts out very similar-looking slop, they probably got tired of being called out by morons online, and had to change their style out of desperation, simply to look more human.

                  I think it's going to affect a lot of professional artists: you simply can't draw well anymore without the fear of being mistaken for AI and having to fight the bullshit.

                  Hell, I'm learning to draw just to show AI a middle finger, and the comic I'm planning on releasing eventually will be done entirely with a pencil, a felt tip pen, and pastel charcoals in Concepts, and I'm going to keep the planning layer in the final works as the proof of humanity.

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                  #40
                  @coffee well said

                  Also good luck and success on your artistic journey!

                  Even when AI made things a little more miserable as a whole.

                  You do see the effects very well by now as well, especially in crafts where people will feel like they need to post a video about the process of "how its made" in order to fight off slop-accusations. Though other arts are the same...

                  It is kinda sad I always have to stop for a split second and ask myself if something can be enjoyed or its just.

                  Its why I enjoy stuff like https://islieb.de/; (they are also on fedi but I don't wanted to drag them into here) or foxes in love (https://foxesinlove.net/) and of course David and all the other cool artsy people you can find on here
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                  • stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.deS stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de
                    @coffee well said

                    Also good luck and success on your artistic journey!

                    Even when AI made things a little more miserable as a whole.

                    You do see the effects very well by now as well, especially in crafts where people will feel like they need to post a video about the process of "how its made" in order to fight off slop-accusations. Though other arts are the same...

                    It is kinda sad I always have to stop for a split second and ask myself if something can be enjoyed or its just.

                    Its why I enjoy stuff like https://islieb.de/; (they are also on fedi but I don't wanted to drag them into here) or foxes in love (https://foxesinlove.net/) and of course David and all the other cool artsy people you can find on here
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                    #41

                    @stefan I appreciate the kind words!

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      Thanks for the support! Funny thing I wanted to plug here: I've never received comments like that here on the Fediverse , but I get dozens of them, weekly, on the Meta platforms (Facebook/Instagram)...

                      I'm really grateful for how this community checks artists' work and actually verifies it's real human art before throwing random accusations.

                      This is my favorite place to share for a reason. 💜

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                      #42

                      @davidrevoy always happy to support ai artists! (Please don't kill me that was a joke!)

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                      • cleefhanger@mastodon.artC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #43

                        @csolisr anyone that sees more than one of your works can tell is not ia because ia cant replicate the originality of it for so long

                        edit: oh i didn't taged the op 😧

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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          Authenticity Problem

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                          dgouttegattat@social.incenp.org
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                          #44

                          @davidrevoy Not that I would compare myself to an artist, but in a similar fashion I have already been told that my prose (mostly technical prose—again, not an artist!) must have been AI-generated due to my propensity to use em dashes…

                          Damn it, I—and countless other writers—have been using em dashes long before those stochastic parrots came into being!

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                          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                            Authenticity Problem

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                            #45

                            @davidrevoy I've been out painting in plein aire and had people ask me if I was actually painting.

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                            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

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                              #46

                              @davidrevoy too real 😭

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                                #47

                                @realtegan @AnnaBaguenaude @davidrevoy do as the firefighters do

                                An axe and a halligan

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                                • D dgouttegattat@social.incenp.org

                                  @davidrevoy Not that I would compare myself to an artist, but in a similar fashion I have already been told that my prose (mostly technical prose—again, not an artist!) must have been AI-generated due to my propensity to use em dashes…

                                  Damn it, I—and countless other writers—have been using em dashes long before those stochastic parrots came into being!

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                                  #48

                                  @dgouttegattat @davidrevoy Here, you might find this useful at some point.

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                                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                    @ghosttie Her fictive painting? The largest resolution I have for this color sketch is https://www.peppercarrot.com/extras/temp/2026-08-04_gothic-sorceress-fictive-painting.jpg

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                                    #49

                                    @davidrevoy @ghosttie this has a digital "impressionist" vibe for me. Such a contrast to your typical style for the webcomic.

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                                      #50

                                      @mirabilos @sinewave @davidrevoy No you don't. I used to work as a typesetter. I've had a keyboard shortcut for I-forget-how-many years to make it easy for me to insert a nonbreaking-space-and-em-dash combo, and I even wrote about using nonbreaking spaces like that over 16 years ago: https://kagan.mactane.org/blog/2010/07/10/typesetting-in-between-the-letters/

                                      Some of us just care about typography.

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                                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

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                                        #51

                                        @davidrevoy
                                        Reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEVl0NS0vu8

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                                        • kagan@wandering.shopK kagan@wandering.shop

                                          @mirabilos @sinewave @davidrevoy No you don't. I used to work as a typesetter. I've had a keyboard shortcut for I-forget-how-many years to make it easy for me to insert a nonbreaking-space-and-em-dash combo, and I even wrote about using nonbreaking spaces like that over 16 years ago: https://kagan.mactane.org/blog/2010/07/10/typesetting-in-between-the-letters/

                                          Some of us just care about typography.

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                                          #52

                                          @kagan @mirabilos @davidrevoy i mean hell the whole reason LLMs use em-dashes and such so much is because they're so damn common in the writing fed to the things as training data, which is like the whole-ass point of OPs comic

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