Skip to content
  • Hjem
  • Seneste
  • Etiketter
  • Populære
  • Verden
  • Bruger
  • Grupper
Temaer
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Kollaps
FARVEL BIG TECH
  1. Forside
  2. Ikke-kategoriseret
  3. Is this art?

Is this art?

Planlagt Fastgjort Låst Flyttet Ikke-kategoriseret
20 Indlæg 4 Posters 0 Visninger
  • Ældste til nyeste
  • Nyeste til ældste
  • Most Votes
Svar
  • Svar som emne
Login for at svare
Denne tråd er blevet slettet. Kun brugere med emne behandlings privilegier kan se den.
  • filiplachert@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
    filiplachert@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
    filiplachert@mastodon.social
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #1

    Is this art? Is this a protest? Is this plain vandalism? Difficult to say in these times.

    pelle@veganism.socialP 1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • filiplachert@mastodon.socialF filiplachert@mastodon.social

      Is this art? Is this a protest? Is this plain vandalism? Difficult to say in these times.

      pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
      pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
      pelle@veganism.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #2

      @filiplachert
      possibly unpopular hot take: i think that dunking on #microtransport, as long as cars exist, promotes #motornormativity.

      #escooters being dangerous or taking up space or being wasteful or whatever: cars are like that, except 1000 × more.

      it's like carnists heckling vegans for eating avocados.

      me@mastodon.cysioland.plM barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB 2 Replies Last reply
      1
      0
      • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

        @filiplachert
        possibly unpopular hot take: i think that dunking on #microtransport, as long as cars exist, promotes #motornormativity.

        #escooters being dangerous or taking up space or being wasteful or whatever: cars are like that, except 1000 × more.

        it's like carnists heckling vegans for eating avocados.

        me@mastodon.cysioland.plM This user is from outside of this forum
        me@mastodon.cysioland.plM This user is from outside of this forum
        me@mastodon.cysioland.pl
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #3

        @pelle @filiplachert Polish media is manufacturing consent recently, pushing news about people on scooters wrecking themselves, we might end up with licensing requirements like they did with motorcycles

        1 Reply Last reply
        1
        0
        • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

          @filiplachert
          possibly unpopular hot take: i think that dunking on #microtransport, as long as cars exist, promotes #motornormativity.

          #escooters being dangerous or taking up space or being wasteful or whatever: cars are like that, except 1000 × more.

          it's like carnists heckling vegans for eating avocados.

          barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
          barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
          barometz@social.treehouse.systems
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #4

          @pelle @filiplachert I see more rental e-bikes than cars blocking sidewalks and bicycle paths around here. People truly do not give a shit where they park those things. I've half a mind to start moving them into the street, when I find one that needs moving.

          pelle@veganism.socialP 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB barometz@social.treehouse.systems

            @pelle @filiplachert I see more rental e-bikes than cars blocking sidewalks and bicycle paths around here. People truly do not give a shit where they park those things. I've half a mind to start moving them into the street, when I find one that needs moving.

            pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
            pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
            pelle@veganism.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #5

            @barometz "more rental e-bikes than cars blocking sidewalks" 👈 which would be a non-issue if cars weren't blocking 90% of all city streets with operation and storage. #motornormativity

            barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social shared this topic
            • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

              @barometz "more rental e-bikes than cars blocking sidewalks" 👈 which would be a non-issue if cars weren't blocking 90% of all city streets with operation and storage. #motornormativity

              barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
              barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
              barometz@social.treehouse.systems
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #6

              @pelle sure, motornormativity

              pelle@veganism.socialP 1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB barometz@social.treehouse.systems

                @pelle sure, motornormativity

                pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                pelle@veganism.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #7

                @barometz super dangerous bikes taking up all the space lol

                barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                  @barometz super dangerous bikes taking up all the space lol

                  barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
                  barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
                  barometz@social.treehouse.systems
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #8

                  @pelle I never said that car culture doesn't suck! I just think that holding back on criticism of rental scooters and bikes is a mistake. The companies don't give a shit because they make money, and the users don't give a shit because it's not their bike.

                  pelle@veganism.socialP 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB barometz@social.treehouse.systems

                    @pelle I never said that car culture doesn't suck! I just think that holding back on criticism of rental scooters and bikes is a mistake. The companies don't give a shit because they make money, and the users don't give a shit because it's not their bike.

                    pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                    pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                    pelle@veganism.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #9

                    @barometz
                    can you describe more in detail what upsets you about this situation?

                    barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                      @barometz
                      can you describe more in detail what upsets you about this situation?

                      barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
                      barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
                      barometz@social.treehouse.systems
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #10

                      @pelle this is near a building with a lot of elderly folks who use various mobility aids. There's a large paved area forty meters ahead with plenty of space.

                      pelle@veganism.socialP 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB barometz@social.treehouse.systems

                        @pelle this is near a building with a lot of elderly folks who use various mobility aids. There's a large paved area forty meters ahead with plenty of space.

                        pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                        pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                        pelle@veganism.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #11

                        @barometz
                        are you upset at the people using mobility aids?

                        barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB 1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                          @barometz
                          are you upset at the people using mobility aids?

                          barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
                          barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
                          barometz@social.treehouse.systems
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #12

                          @pelle no, at the people making them cross the curb (which is a hassle for them) and get into the bicycle lane (which is annoying for me).

                          pelle@veganism.socialP 1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB barometz@social.treehouse.systems

                            @pelle no, at the people making them cross the curb (which is a hassle for them) and get into the bicycle lane (which is annoying for me).

                            pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                            pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                            pelle@veganism.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #13

                            @barometz
                            so you're annoyed when the elderly folks on their mobility aids get in your way?

                            barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB 1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                              @barometz
                              so you're annoyed when the elderly folks on their mobility aids get in your way?

                              barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
                              barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
                              barometz@social.treehouse.systems
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #14

                              @pelle if you're able to express a complete thought, rather than this tedious socratic approach, please do.

                              In each of those pictures, the vehicles could have been parked in a way that leaves them accessible and doesn't block a sidewalk, emergency exit, or public AED for anyone.

                              pelle@veganism.socialP 2 Replies Last reply
                              0
                              • barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB barometz@social.treehouse.systems

                                @pelle if you're able to express a complete thought, rather than this tedious socratic approach, please do.

                                In each of those pictures, the vehicles could have been parked in a way that leaves them accessible and doesn't block a sidewalk, emergency exit, or public AED for anyone.

                                pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                                pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                                pelle@veganism.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #15
                                Dette indlæg er slettet!
                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB barometz@social.treehouse.systems

                                  @pelle if you're able to express a complete thought, rather than this tedious socratic approach, please do.

                                  In each of those pictures, the vehicles could have been parked in a way that leaves them accessible and doesn't block a sidewalk, emergency exit, or public AED for anyone.

                                  pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                                  pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                                  pelle@veganism.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #16

                                  @barometz
                                  thanks for perfectly illustrating the point i was trying to make 👌

                                  barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                                    @barometz
                                    thanks for perfectly illustrating the point i was trying to make 👌

                                    barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
                                    barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
                                    barometz@social.treehouse.systems
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #17

                                    @pelle I don't understand what point that is? If you're talking about the ability to park with consideration for other road users, does that contradict anything I've said?

                                    pelle@veganism.socialP 1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB barometz@social.treehouse.systems

                                      @pelle I don't understand what point that is? If you're talking about the ability to park with consideration for other road users, does that contradict anything I've said?

                                      pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                                      pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                                      pelle@veganism.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #18

                                      @barometz
                                      like, complaining how e-scooters are dangerous because you've seen one that's parked near an AED.

                                      how many people are crushed by cars per year in the city you live in?

                                      barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB 1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                                        @barometz
                                        like, complaining how e-scooters are dangerous because you've seen one that's parked near an AED.

                                        how many people are crushed by cars per year in the city you live in?

                                        barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
                                        barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
                                        barometz@social.treehouse.systems
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #19

                                        @pelle okay, so the statement I originally objected to was

                                        "i think that dunking on microtransport, as long as cars exist, promotes motornormativity."

                                        I see how you got from my objection to "e-scooters are dangerous" but that's not what I meant. What I mean is this: no one should park like a fucking asshole. I don't see non-rentals parked like this nearly as much, so the category is relevant.

                                        pelle@veganism.socialP 1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • barometz@social.treehouse.systemsB barometz@social.treehouse.systems

                                          @pelle okay, so the statement I originally objected to was

                                          "i think that dunking on microtransport, as long as cars exist, promotes motornormativity."

                                          I see how you got from my objection to "e-scooters are dangerous" but that's not what I meant. What I mean is this: no one should park like a fucking asshole. I don't see non-rentals parked like this nearly as much, so the category is relevant.

                                          pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                                          pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                                          pelle@veganism.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #20

                                          @barometz
                                          the thing is, the amount of being "a fucking asshole", by driving and parking a car, legally, is so disproportionately greater than what those parked bikes are doing.

                                          but people are much more willing to put up with assholery from cars. that's the #motornormativity. there's interesting studies exploring that unconcious bias.

                                          https://www.napier.ac.uk/research-and-innovation/research-search/outputs/motonormativity-how-social-norms-hide-a-major-public-health-hazard

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Svar
                                          • Svar som emne
                                          Login for at svare
                                          • Ældste til nyeste
                                          • Nyeste til ældste
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Log ind

                                          • Har du ikke en konto? Tilmeld

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          Powered by NodeBB Contributors
                                          Graciously hosted by data.coop
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Hjem
                                          • Seneste
                                          • Etiketter
                                          • Populære
                                          • Verden
                                          • Bruger
                                          • Grupper