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  • breizh@pleroma.breizh.pmB breizh@pleroma.breizh.pm

    @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org Your last sentence is weird?

    I mean, are you acknowledging that there is a link between caring privacy and being anti-AI?

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    #121

    @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
    "are you acknowledging that there is a link between caring privacy and being anti-AI?" - no, I was pointing out that YOU were 😂

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    • breizh@pleroma.breizh.pmB breizh@pleroma.breizh.pm

      @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org So local reality offline is a random sample? You said it was not?

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      #122

      @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
      "So local reality offline is a random sample?" - nope, never said that either 🙄

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      • smartmanapps@dotnet.socialS smartmanapps@dotnet.social

        @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
        "are you acknowledging that there is a link between caring privacy and being anti-AI?" - no, I was pointing out that YOU were 😂

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        #123

        @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org Yes?

        There is a link between caring about privacy and being anti-AI.

        There is a link between caring about the environment and being anti-AI too.

        There is a lot of these links. That’s why it’s biased…

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        • smartmanapps@dotnet.socialS smartmanapps@dotnet.social

          @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
          "So local reality offline is a random sample?" - nope, never said that either 🙄

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          #124

          @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org …but this poll was done in a local reality online…

          You’re not making any sense.

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          • breizh@pleroma.breizh.pmB breizh@pleroma.breizh.pm

            @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org …but this poll was done in a local reality online…

            You’re not making any sense.

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            #125

            @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
            "but this poll was done in a local reality online" - no it wasn't. It was shared across multiple platforms 🙄

            "You’re not making any sense" - as I already said, you need to learn about Statistics. Do that and it will all make sense

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            • breizh@pleroma.breizh.pmB breizh@pleroma.breizh.pm

              @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org Yes?

              There is a link between caring about privacy and being anti-AI.

              There is a link between caring about the environment and being anti-AI too.

              There is a lot of these links. That’s why it’s biased…

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              #126

              @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
              "There is a lot of these links. That’s why it’s biased" - so you're saying if I see a lot of links about Nazi Germany in my timeline on a WWII anniversary, then I am biased towards Nazi's? 😂 I see you don't understand how polls work. Bye dude

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              • smartmanapps@dotnet.socialS smartmanapps@dotnet.social

                @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
                "but this poll was done in a local reality online" - no it wasn't. It was shared across multiple platforms 🙄

                "You’re not making any sense" - as I already said, you need to learn about Statistics. Do that and it will all make sense

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                #127

                @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org So if you ask tho the neighbour city instead of only the one you live in, that’s enough to convert the local reality of “your city” to a random sample?

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                • breizh@pleroma.breizh.pmB breizh@pleroma.breizh.pm

                  @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org So if you ask tho the neighbour city instead of only the one you live in, that’s enough to convert the local reality of “your city” to a random sample?

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                  #128

                  @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
                  "So if you ask tho the neighbour city instead of only the one you live in" - you know these polls have run world-wide, right? 🙄

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                  • smartmanapps@dotnet.socialS smartmanapps@dotnet.social

                    @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
                    "There is a lot of these links. That’s why it’s biased" - so you're saying if I see a lot of links about Nazi Germany in my timeline on a WWII anniversary, then I am biased towards Nazi's? 😂 I see you don't understand how polls work. Bye dude

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                    #129

                    @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org I don’t think you understand how polls, statistics and social studies works.

                    Which is a bit concerning for a “maths teacher/tutor”.

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                    • smartmanapps@dotnet.socialS smartmanapps@dotnet.social

                      @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
                      "So if you ask tho the neighbour city instead of only the one you live in" - you know these polls have run world-wide, right? 🙄

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                      #130

                      @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org But not across the whole population, only part of it.

                      Local reality, or bubble filter, aren’t only geographic, you know?

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                      • breizh@pleroma.breizh.pmB breizh@pleroma.breizh.pm

                        @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org I don’t think you understand how polls, statistics and social studies works.

                        Which is a bit concerning for a “maths teacher/tutor”.

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                        #131

                        @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
                        "don’t think you understand how polls, statistics and social studies works" - I have a degree in Statistics dude, how about you? 😂

                        "Which is a bit concerning for a "maths teacher/tutor"" - which part did you miss where I majored in Statistics along the way to becoming a Maths teacher? 😂

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                        • smartmanapps@dotnet.socialS smartmanapps@dotnet.social

                          @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
                          "don’t think you understand how polls, statistics and social studies works" - I have a degree in Statistics dude, how about you? 😂

                          "Which is a bit concerning for a "maths teacher/tutor"" - which part did you miss where I majored in Statistics along the way to becoming a Maths teacher? 😂

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                          #132

                          @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org That’s concerning…

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                          • breizh@pleroma.breizh.pmB breizh@pleroma.breizh.pm

                            @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org But not across the whole population, only part of it.

                            Local reality, or bubble filter, aren’t only geographic, you know?

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                            #133

                            @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
                            "not across the whole population, only part of it" - a random sample of it 🙄

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                            • breizh@pleroma.breizh.pmB breizh@pleroma.breizh.pm

                              @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org That’s concerning…

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                              #134

                              @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
                              "That’s concerning" - I'll take that as a no, you DON'T have a degree in Statistics then. Thanks for playing

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                              • smartmanapps@dotnet.socialS smartmanapps@dotnet.social

                                @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
                                "not across the whole population, only part of it" - a random sample of it 🙄

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                                #135

                                @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org How do you know it was?

                                Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t. I bet it wasn’t.

                                I can’t prove it, but you can’t prove it was either.

                                That’s why we can’t conclude anything about it.

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                                • breizh@pleroma.breizh.pmB breizh@pleroma.breizh.pm

                                  @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org How do you know it was?

                                  Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t. I bet it wasn’t.

                                  I can’t prove it, but you can’t prove it was either.

                                  That’s why we can’t conclude anything about it.

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                                  #136

                                  @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @Stem@framapiaf.org @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org If you have more serious studies than “a poll on the web” to prove that 90% of the whole population is against IA, I’ll take them.

                                  But a poll on the web will never be a thing that we can use to conclude anything by itself.

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                                  • smartmanapps@dotnet.socialS smartmanapps@dotnet.social

                                    @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
                                    "That’s concerning" - I'll take that as a no, you DON'T have a degree in Statistics then. Thanks for playing

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                                    #137

                                    @SmartmanApps @breizh @Stem So, according to your logic, Smartman, if we would re-run the US presidential vote here (constrain: only with voter who have a Mastodon/Fediverse account since more than one year to exclude bot and newcomers) we would obtain the same result as the one reality gave us? Right?

                                    Well, statistic or not, I wouldn't bet on that even a single Euro.

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                                    • breizh@pleroma.breizh.pmB breizh@pleroma.breizh.pm

                                      @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org How do you know it was?

                                      Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t. I bet it wasn’t.

                                      I can’t prove it, but you can’t prove it was either.

                                      That’s why we can’t conclude anything about it.

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                                      #138

                                      @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
                                      "you can’t prove it was either" - I don't need to. That's how Statistics works

                                      "That’s why we can’t conclude anything about it" - we can draw conclusions from a random sample of 25 people. If you had a degree in Statistics then you would know that already

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                                      • breizh@pleroma.breizh.pmB breizh@pleroma.breizh.pm

                                        @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @Stem@framapiaf.org @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org If you have more serious studies than “a poll on the web” to prove that 90% of the whole population is against IA, I’ll take them.

                                        But a poll on the web will never be a thing that we can use to conclude anything by itself.

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                                        #139

                                        @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
                                        "poll on the web will never be a thing that we can use to conclude anything by itself" - we can if it's a random sample

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                                        • smartmanapps@dotnet.socialS smartmanapps@dotnet.social

                                          @breizh @davidrevoy @Stem
                                          "you can’t prove it was either" - I don't need to. That's how Statistics works

                                          "That’s why we can’t conclude anything about it" - we can draw conclusions from a random sample of 25 people. If you had a degree in Statistics then you would know that already

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                                          #140

                                          @SmartmanApps@dotnet.social @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @Stem@framapiaf.org If you ask 25 of your students, it’s not a random sample.

                                          Even if you ask them to ask 25 other people too. Because the people they know aren’t random.

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