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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

    the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is NOT democratic

    the National Socialist German Workers' Party was NOT socialist

    etc

    people forget:

    1. the historical evolution of a country or party
    2. ideological terms are complex with muddy contradictory meanings
    3. that propaganda will paint an ideological term in an unfair light

    then people will spend twenty years arguing about fucking terminology and forget real issues

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    #56

    @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth people (especially Americans) are generally not smart, and only believe what talking heads on networks owned by a corrupt billionaire tell them.

    What's an Americans average reading comprehension level again, 5th grade? Yeah, we are cooked. No wonder we are headed for full on fascism.

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    • farbel@mas.toF farbel@mas.to

      @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth "start at the bottom & ask the people." That is voting. Unfortunately a whole lot of people shrug and say "I dunno." or "I don't care." A whole lot more are manipulated into voting against their own interests, and another majority don't understand that, in a democracy, nobody gets everything thery want, so they stay home and bitch instead of doing the work.

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      #57

      @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
      I campaigned strongly during 2014. If one reply sickened me it was 20 year olds declaring ’I don’t do politics’.
      I wanted to scream at times ‘do you know how effin government works?’

      bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.clubB benroyce@mastodon.socialB lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lionelb@expressional.socialL 4 Replies Last reply
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      • bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.clubB bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.club

        @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth people (especially Americans) are generally not smart, and only believe what talking heads on networks owned by a corrupt billionaire tell them.

        What's an Americans average reading comprehension level again, 5th grade? Yeah, we are cooked. No wonder we are headed for full on fascism.

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        #58

        @bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

        i agree except with your conclusion

        cynicism is self-fulfilling prophecy

        we fight

        we always fight

        and any argument against fighting, such as cynicism, only aids fascism

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

          i agree except with your conclusion

          cynicism is self-fulfilling prophecy

          we fight

          we always fight

          and any argument against fighting, such as cynicism, only aids fascism

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          #59

          @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I'd like to agree ; but I'm really not convincing anyone, just annoying my friends who will further ignore everything I say.

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          • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

            @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
            I campaigned strongly during 2014. If one reply sickened me it was 20 year olds declaring ’I don’t do politics’.
            I wanted to scream at times ‘do you know how effin government works?’

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            #60

            @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth they dont do politics until it affects them.

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            • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

              @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

              There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.

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              #61

              @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
              Churchill was credited with declaring ’democracy is the least worst system of governance’
              Our nightshift offshore discussion group favoured a benign dictatorship 🤔

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              • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

                @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
                I campaigned strongly during 2014. If one reply sickened me it was 20 year olds declaring ’I don’t do politics’.
                I wanted to scream at times ‘do you know how effin government works?’

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                #62

                @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                the answer to

                "i don't do politics"

                is simple:

                "but politics does you

                so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"

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                • farbel@mas.toF farbel@mas.to

                  @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth "start at the bottom & ask the people." That is voting. Unfortunately a whole lot of people shrug and say "I dunno." or "I don't care." A whole lot more are manipulated into voting against their own interests, and another majority don't understand that, in a democracy, nobody gets everything thery want, so they stay home and bitch instead of doing the work.

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                  #63

                  @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                  Yup, so that is why Ben and several others are up here is to push, beg, convince, cajole, intimidate, scream to get people to vote

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                  • bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.clubB bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.club

                    @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I'd like to agree ; but I'm really not convincing anyone, just annoying my friends who will further ignore everything I say.

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                    #64

                    @bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                    i'll give you my brutally honest response:

                    fuck your friends, your friends fucking suck. whiny useless cynics suck

                    find new friends

                    really. fuck entitled lumps

                    i know that's easy for me to say. but empty cynics will only grind your gears in the end, so a soft retreat at least is coming anyways

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                    • bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.clubB bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.club

                      @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth they dont do politics until it affects them.

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                      #65

                      @bridgeenjoyer @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                      If we yell enough, bludgeon enough maybe just maybe we could get 1 or 2 to plan ahead a bit. Alaskan Natives have the idea that if you are going to make changes big changes you need to look at what those changes will do over the next 7 generations.

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                        the answer to

                        "i don't do politics"

                        is simple:

                        "but politics does you

                        so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"

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                        #66

                        @benroyce @Clutha @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                        🤣 😂 🤣 😂 That's just too simple.

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                        • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

                          @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                          Won't argue but they get so crossed up that it seems they are all trying to do the same things. No matter what kind of Political theory there is an attached economic platform. They go hand in hand. The KISS principle.

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                          #67

                          @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
                          Have schools stopped teaching anything regarding propaganda in modern history. Is it only my (ancient) generation that recognises media manipulation by capitalism?

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                          • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

                            @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
                            Churchill was credited with declaring ’democracy is the least worst system of governance’
                            Our nightshift offshore discussion group favoured a benign dictatorship 🤔

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                            #68

                            @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                            No matter what we think there is no good government. The absolute best is one that "does the least harm". Like that?

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                            • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

                              @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
                              I campaigned strongly during 2014. If one reply sickened me it was 20 year olds declaring ’I don’t do politics’.
                              I wanted to scream at times ‘do you know how effin government works?’

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                              #69

                              @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                              If you don't do politics, politics will still seek to do you. The Epstein class is rapists, not people looking for consensual ANYTHING after all.

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                              • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

                                @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.

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                                #70

                                @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My early 1970’s experience re the crofting community in Sutherland & Caithness demonstrated a localised near communist system.

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                  the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is NOT democratic

                                  the National Socialist German Workers' Party was NOT socialist

                                  etc

                                  people forget:

                                  1. the historical evolution of a country or party
                                  2. ideological terms are complex with muddy contradictory meanings
                                  3. that propaganda will paint an ideological term in an unfair light

                                  then people will spend twenty years arguing about fucking terminology and forget real issues

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                                  #71

                                  @benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My favourite example of this is countries that have chosen to add the word "United" to their names.

                                  Often such countries are like a couple who constantly argue but defer getting divorced by having more children.

                                  This keeps them from having to confront the fact that they should never have got together in the first place.

                                  All that remains holding them together is a mutual dislike of their neighbours.

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                                  • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

                                    @benroyce

                                    Very much a "white savior will come to rescue us" flavor in there.
                                    American voters need to wake up and realize that it is THEIR job to find and pick good candidates, not some party leadership or deity.

                                    @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech

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                                    #72

                                    @screwturn @benroyce @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech WTP have sent this “great white hope” into the ring twice.
                                    And he’s failed both times!
                                    What does that say about WTP?

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                                    • clutha@mastodon.scotC clutha@mastodon.scot

                                      @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My early 1970’s experience re the crofting community in Sutherland & Caithness demonstrated a localised near communist system.

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                                      #73

                                      @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                      Read Turnbuls "The Forest People"!

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                        the answer to

                                        "i don't do politics"

                                        is simple:

                                        "but politics does you

                                        so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"

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                                        #74

                                        @benroyce @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                        "Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you"

                                        (Pericles of Athens, BC 430 )

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                                        • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

                                          @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth

                                          No matter what we think there is no good government. The absolute best is one that "does the least harm". Like that?

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                                          #75

                                          @A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
                                          Denmark & Finland vie for ‘happiest country’ title. I’d say their governments have nailed it.

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