"Russia’s economy minister admits ‘reserves have largely been used up’ while communist lawmaker warns of 1917-style revolution as #GDP shrinks"
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@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.
@A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
Churchill was credited with declaring ’democracy is the least worst system of governance’
Our nightshift offshore discussion group favoured a benign dictatorship
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@farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
I campaigned strongly during 2014. If one reply sickened me it was 20 year olds declaring ’I don’t do politics’.
I wanted to scream at times ‘do you know how effin government works?’@Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
the answer to
"i don't do politics"
is simple:
"but politics does you
so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"
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@A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth "start at the bottom & ask the people." That is voting. Unfortunately a whole lot of people shrug and say "I dunno." or "I don't care." A whole lot more are manipulated into voting against their own interests, and another majority don't understand that, in a democracy, nobody gets everything thery want, so they stay home and bitch instead of doing the work.
@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
Yup, so that is why Ben and several others are up here is to push, beg, convince, cajole, intimidate, scream to get people to vote
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@benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth I'd like to agree ; but I'm really not convincing anyone, just annoying my friends who will further ignore everything I say.
@bridgeenjoyer @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
i'll give you my brutally honest response:
fuck your friends, your friends fucking suck. whiny useless cynics suck
find new friends
really. fuck entitled lumps
i know that's easy for me to say. but empty cynics will only grind your gears in the end, so a soft retreat at least is coming anyways
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@Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth they dont do politics until it affects them.
@bridgeenjoyer @Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
If we yell enough, bludgeon enough maybe just maybe we could get 1 or 2 to plan ahead a bit. Alaskan Natives have the idea that if you are going to make changes big changes you need to look at what those changes will do over the next 7 generations.
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@Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
the answer to
"i don't do politics"
is simple:
"but politics does you
so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"
@benroyce @Clutha @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
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@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
Won't argue but they get so crossed up that it seems they are all trying to do the same things. No matter what kind of Political theory there is an attached economic platform. They go hand in hand. The KISS principle.
@A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
Have schools stopped teaching anything regarding propaganda in modern history. Is it only my (ancient) generation that recognises media manipulation by capitalism? -
@A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
Churchill was credited with declaring ’democracy is the least worst system of governance’
Our nightshift offshore discussion group favoured a benign dictatorship@Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
No matter what we think there is no good government. The absolute best is one that "does the least harm". Like that?
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@farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
I campaigned strongly during 2014. If one reply sickened me it was 20 year olds declaring ’I don’t do politics’.
I wanted to scream at times ‘do you know how effin government works?’@Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
If you don't do politics, politics will still seek to do you. The Epstein class is rapists, not people looking for consensual ANYTHING after all.
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@farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
There is no real communism, socialism, democracy, capitalism or any of the other myriad of political constructs. The only way to build a government that is 'for the people' is to start at the bottom & ask the people. Build from the bottom up not the top down. Figure out what to call it after it's done. I lean toward a Democracy however the people define it.
@A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My early 1970’s experience re the crofting community in Sutherland & Caithness demonstrated a localised near communist system.
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@the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is NOT democratic
the National Socialist German Workers' Party was NOT socialist
etc
people forget:
1. the historical evolution of a country or party
2. ideological terms are complex with muddy contradictory meanings
3. that propaganda will paint an ideological term in an unfair lightthen people will spend twenty years arguing about fucking terminology and forget real issues
@benroyce @the5thColumnist @farbel @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My favourite example of this is countries that have chosen to add the word "United" to their names.
Often such countries are like a couple who constantly argue but defer getting divorced by having more children.
This keeps them from having to confront the fact that they should never have got together in the first place.
All that remains holding them together is a mutual dislike of their neighbours.
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Very much a "white savior will come to rescue us" flavor in there.
American voters need to wake up and realize that it is THEIR job to find and pick good candidates, not some party leadership or deity.@screwturn @benroyce @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech WTP have sent this “great white hope” into the ring twice.
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@A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth My early 1970’s experience re the crofting community in Sutherland & Caithness demonstrated a localised near communist system.
@Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
Read Turnbuls "The Forest People"!
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@Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
the answer to
"i don't do politics"
is simple:
"but politics does you
so you better engage, or you will be engaged with on the chosen terms of bigot fascist ghouls who got in power because you ignored politics"
@benroyce @Clutha @farbel @A_Minion @retech @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
"Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you"
(Pericles of Athens, BC 430 )
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@Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
No matter what we think there is no good government. The absolute best is one that "does the least harm". Like that?
@A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
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@roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
every state has different rules about who can #vote in the #primary
you got closed, partially closed, partially open, open to unaffiliated voters, open, multi-party, etc
it's fucking complicated, and part of our problem with voting in general in the #USA because people are never educated about it and never figure it out
it still doesn't mean they are free of blame IF THEY DON'T FUCKING VOTE IN THE #PRIMARIES
educate yourself AND VOTE
https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/state-primary-election-types
@benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech in #wyoming almost every office is chosen in the Primary and they’re almost always republicans This will be a very difficult state to turn even slightly purple.
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@benroyce @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech in #wyoming almost every office is chosen in the Primary and they’re almost always republicans This will be a very difficult state to turn even slightly purple.
@horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
you still have the option of vandalism or sabotage through primary voting
in party or across party lines
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@horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech
you still have the option of vandalism or sabotage through primary voting
in party or across party lines
@benroyce @horqua @roknrol @mikelovesbikes @retech My state isn’t quite as red as Wyoming, but I seriously considered registering Republican in 2024 long enough to try to vote for the least worst. In the end, I decided it was more to my advantage to select Dems in local gov races (county, city). But that’s the thing I’d encourage everyone to do… look at the ballot and be strategic and make a choice. Don’t be passive.
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@Sfwmson @benroyce @crcollins @spreadthetruth @retech my current response to those people is “thank you for the current SCOTUS. I am certain that as a cishet white male ( because for fucks sake they are cishet white males 99.9% of the time ) it will be quite some time before they impact you. Bravo.”
That's a perrfect response
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@A_Minion @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
Denmark & Finland vie for ‘happiest country’ title. I’d say their governments have nailed it.@Clutha @farbel @retech @benroyce @DonChacale @spreadthetruth
(My ride is in garage till the ice is gone).
What pisses me off is we could have had what they have. The basic economics was in place, people were beginning to do well, even business was making money. We fought for civil right race & sex, education expansion. The right has been fighting ever since FDR to gain total control & bring back the depression. They finally did it.
Peace
