The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

[andycarolan@social.lol]

@_elena i should add that I managed to convince my wife and son to do the same. Best decision ever.

[leonieke@squilla.vitaulium.eu]

@_elena I'm still cleaning up all my proton stuff and I fear the transfer a bit, but in the coming months I'll move over to dutch provider @soverin keeping my own domain(s), but only after total clean-up of all aliases and gmail-remnants.

I never realised I had to many accounts and subscriptions: I'm on a digital cleanse it seems

[sebastian@mastodon.com.pl]

@_elena so many aliases! I have much more less and consider, what should I do. Maybe can you share yours ideas how to resolve it?

[_elena@mastodon.social]

@closeted_unionist huh I do not use Claude. I picked ProtonMail 6 years ago because of its reputation for security and privacy and moved there from Google. I did not expect the company to take such a turn (in 2020 LLMs were not a thing)

[closeted_unionist@mastodon.social]

@_elena sorry typo

[paulk@writing.exchange]

@_elena Aye, this shocked me a big one too. I don't use their mail option a lot but I have Proton Pass. Seriously considering the move back to KeepassXC now.

[_elena@mastodon.social]

@sebastian so I read reports by people who used a free account for a month and then did not pay that aliases ALLEGEDLY still work, even when plans expire. Still, I want to create a personal system where I do not rely on one big company for such a key feature.

I'm happy I never used ProtonDrive and ProtonPass, that's for sure.

[_elena@mastodon.social]

@paulk totally understand, ESPECIALLY for something as sensitive as passwords. They've lost my trust... the only way forward for them is to fire Andy Yen AND their AI-pilled CTO. This is catastrophic for their image and reputation, I don't see any other way to recover

[_elena@mastodon.social]

@andycarolan amazing! I grabbed a domain name for my child a month after she was born and I will definitely encourage her to use it - when she's old enough

[mpospese@mountains.social]

@_elena may I ask what provider(s) you’re considering next? I also need to get off Proton.

[wonkothesane@mstdn.social]

@_elena I’m in the exact same situation and I’m kicking myself because when I decided to de-google and move to Proton I was aware of custom domains but it seemed like to much to learn at the time. Now I have a million alias through SimpleLogin (a service I’ll really miss) and I’m not sure how to handle that

[econads@mendeddrum.org]

@closeted_unionist
I'm kind of between proton and tuta right now. Tuta is useable, but you need to pay a couple Euros month for anything about the very basics (like search!) google etc has really conditioned us (me) to expect things for free, backed by surveillance.

I actually started to move because there's an annoying bug they don't care to fix, ironically.

And I can 95% recommend addy.io if you're lazy to run your own domain stuff.

@_elena

[ngel@ruby.social]

@leonieke @_elena @soverin what made you choose them between other alternatives? I’m thinking on moving away from proton also.

[marc_eu@mastodon.green]

@_elena @paulk
There's a list of EU alternatives, but there should also be a list of products and services that don't push AI in development.

[ngel@ruby.social]

@_elena I’m in a similar scenario. Just weighing alternatives. Any thoughts?

[michelpatrice@jasette.facil.services]

@_elena

"The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road."

"La route est longue, mais la voie est libre."(Framasoft)

[andycarolan@social.lol]

@_elena That's awesome!

[hrafnagud@niflheim.social]

@_elena Next one, unfortunately. Liked the idea that Proton transported years ago but although I like Mail and VPN there, I am glad to use my own domains AND a service like @mailbox_org here in Germany. The numbers of trustful services seem to decrease week by week at the moment, that’s a sad fact.

[paulk@writing.exchange]

@_elena Too bad as they were off to a good start. They now seem to be set for a 'good end'.
Really glad I once did the exercise to move once before, to test KeepassXC.

Indeed, a clean slate would be best for them, but the damage is done. That goes fast and reaches far.

[_elena@mastodon.social]

@ngel I'm waiting to see how Proton reacts to this catastrophic, reputation-destroying story. If Yen and the AI-pilled CTO step down, I may consider sticking around. My unlimited plan renews in May.

For the time being I am changing my "from" email address and using a custom domain name to make the transition easier... I'm also looking at Tuta (where I already have an account)