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  3. The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

    The biggest tech regret of my adult life is that I didn't use a custom domain name as my main email address, so that when things invariably go south, I can simply hop to a new email provider.

    The hundred or so email aliases I made with #Proton are a real headache right now. Time to clean up my mess.

    What am I talking about? This ICYMI: https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

    #NoAI #enshittification #ProtonMail

    ticho@mas.toT C andycarolan@social.lolA leonieke@squilla.vitaulium.euL sebastian@mastodon.com.plS 32 Replies Last reply
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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

      The biggest tech regret of my adult life is that I didn't use a custom domain name as my main email address, so that when things invariably go south, I can simply hop to a new email provider.

      The hundred or so email aliases I made with #Proton are a real headache right now. Time to clean up my mess.

      What am I talking about? This ICYMI: https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

      #NoAI #enshittification #ProtonMail

      ticho@mas.toT This user is from outside of this forum
      ticho@mas.toT This user is from outside of this forum
      ticho@mas.to
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      #2

      @_elena Oh, look, another one of the "they're on our side" corporations ends up betraying its users. Who could've seen it coming? 🙄

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

        The biggest tech regret of my adult life is that I didn't use a custom domain name as my main email address, so that when things invariably go south, I can simply hop to a new email provider.

        The hundred or so email aliases I made with #Proton are a real headache right now. Time to clean up my mess.

        What am I talking about? This ICYMI: https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

        #NoAI #enshittification #ProtonMail

        C This user is from outside of this forum
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        closeted_unionist@mastodon.social
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        #3

        @_elena I find it ironic proton fight big tech by using big tech (ie claude). Any alternatives? I was hoping for proton to be a more viable alternative to gsuite

        Edit: typo

        _elena@mastodon.social_ C econads@mendeddrum.orgE mikey@friendsofdesoto.socialM 4 Replies Last reply
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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

          The biggest tech regret of my adult life is that I didn't use a custom domain name as my main email address, so that when things invariably go south, I can simply hop to a new email provider.

          The hundred or so email aliases I made with #Proton are a real headache right now. Time to clean up my mess.

          What am I talking about? This ICYMI: https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

          #NoAI #enshittification #ProtonMail

          andycarolan@social.lolA This user is from outside of this forum
          andycarolan@social.lolA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @_elena Yeah, I'm so thankful that I picked my Domain for my main email addresses. So nice to be able to change provider if the one I'm using chooses the dark side.

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          • andycarolan@social.lolA andycarolan@social.lol

            @_elena Yeah, I'm so thankful that I picked my Domain for my main email addresses. So nice to be able to change provider if the one I'm using chooses the dark side.

            andycarolan@social.lolA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @_elena i should add that I managed to convince my wife and son to do the same. Best decision ever.

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

              The biggest tech regret of my adult life is that I didn't use a custom domain name as my main email address, so that when things invariably go south, I can simply hop to a new email provider.

              The hundred or so email aliases I made with #Proton are a real headache right now. Time to clean up my mess.

              What am I talking about? This ICYMI: https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

              #NoAI #enshittification #ProtonMail

              leonieke@squilla.vitaulium.euL This user is from outside of this forum
              leonieke@squilla.vitaulium.euL This user is from outside of this forum
              leonieke@squilla.vitaulium.eu
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              #6

              @_elena I'm still cleaning up all my proton stuff and I fear the transfer a bit, but in the coming months I'll move over to dutch provider @soverin keeping my own domain(s), but only after total clean-up of all aliases and gmail-remnants.

              I never realised I had to many accounts and subscriptions: I'm on a digital cleanse it seems

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

                The biggest tech regret of my adult life is that I didn't use a custom domain name as my main email address, so that when things invariably go south, I can simply hop to a new email provider.

                The hundred or so email aliases I made with #Proton are a real headache right now. Time to clean up my mess.

                What am I talking about? This ICYMI: https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

                #NoAI #enshittification #ProtonMail

                sebastian@mastodon.com.plS This user is from outside of this forum
                sebastian@mastodon.com.plS This user is from outside of this forum
                sebastian@mastodon.com.pl
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                #7

                @_elena so many aliases! I have much more less and consider, what should I do. Maybe can you share yours ideas how to resolve it?

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                • C closeted_unionist@mastodon.social

                  @_elena I find it ironic proton fight big tech by using big tech (ie claude). Any alternatives? I was hoping for proton to be a more viable alternative to gsuite

                  Edit: typo

                  _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @closeted_unionist huh I do not use Claude. I picked ProtonMail 6 years ago because of its reputation for security and privacy and moved there from Google. I did not expect the company to take such a turn (in 2020 LLMs were not a thing)

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                  • C closeted_unionist@mastodon.social

                    @_elena I find it ironic proton fight big tech by using big tech (ie claude). Any alternatives? I was hoping for proton to be a more viable alternative to gsuite

                    Edit: typo

                    C This user is from outside of this forum
                    C This user is from outside of this forum
                    closeted_unionist@mastodon.social
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                    #9

                    @_elena sorry typo

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

                      The biggest tech regret of my adult life is that I didn't use a custom domain name as my main email address, so that when things invariably go south, I can simply hop to a new email provider.

                      The hundred or so email aliases I made with #Proton are a real headache right now. Time to clean up my mess.

                      What am I talking about? This ICYMI: https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

                      #NoAI #enshittification #ProtonMail

                      paulk@writing.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
                      paulk@writing.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
                      paulk@writing.exchange
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                      #10

                      @_elena Aye, this shocked me a big one too. I don't use their mail option a lot but I have Proton Pass. Seriously considering the move back to KeepassXC now.

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                      • sebastian@mastodon.com.plS sebastian@mastodon.com.pl

                        @_elena so many aliases! I have much more less and consider, what should I do. Maybe can you share yours ideas how to resolve it?

                        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @sebastian so I read reports by people who used a free account for a month and then did not pay that aliases ALLEGEDLY still work, even when plans expire. Still, I want to create a personal system where I do not rely on one big company for such a key feature.

                        I'm happy I never used ProtonDrive and ProtonPass, that's for sure.

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                        • paulk@writing.exchangeP paulk@writing.exchange

                          @_elena Aye, this shocked me a big one too. I don't use their mail option a lot but I have Proton Pass. Seriously considering the move back to KeepassXC now.

                          _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @paulk totally understand, ESPECIALLY for something as sensitive as passwords. They've lost my trust... the only way forward for them is to fire Andy Yen AND their AI-pilled CTO. This is catastrophic for their image and reputation, I don't see any other way to recover

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                          • andycarolan@social.lolA andycarolan@social.lol

                            @_elena i should add that I managed to convince my wife and son to do the same. Best decision ever.

                            _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            _elena@mastodon.social
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                            #13

                            @andycarolan amazing! I grabbed a domain name for my child a month after she was born and I will definitely encourage her to use it - when she's old enough

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

                              The biggest tech regret of my adult life is that I didn't use a custom domain name as my main email address, so that when things invariably go south, I can simply hop to a new email provider.

                              The hundred or so email aliases I made with #Proton are a real headache right now. Time to clean up my mess.

                              What am I talking about? This ICYMI: https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

                              #NoAI #enshittification #ProtonMail

                              mpospese@mountains.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                              mpospese@mountains.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                              mpospese@mountains.social
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                              #14

                              @_elena may I ask what provider(s) you’re considering next? I also need to get off Proton.

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

                                The biggest tech regret of my adult life is that I didn't use a custom domain name as my main email address, so that when things invariably go south, I can simply hop to a new email provider.

                                The hundred or so email aliases I made with #Proton are a real headache right now. Time to clean up my mess.

                                What am I talking about? This ICYMI: https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

                                #NoAI #enshittification #ProtonMail

                                wonkothesane@mstdn.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wonkothesane@mstdn.social
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                                #15

                                @_elena I’m in the exact same situation and I’m kicking myself because when I decided to de-google and move to Proton I was aware of custom domains but it seemed like to much to learn at the time. Now I have a million alias through SimpleLogin (a service I’ll really miss) and I’m not sure how to handle that

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                                • C closeted_unionist@mastodon.social

                                  @_elena I find it ironic proton fight big tech by using big tech (ie claude). Any alternatives? I was hoping for proton to be a more viable alternative to gsuite

                                  Edit: typo

                                  econads@mendeddrum.orgE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @closeted_unionist
                                  I'm kind of between proton and tuta right now. Tuta is useable, but you need to pay a couple Euros month for anything about the very basics (like search!) google etc has really conditioned us (me) to expect things for free, backed by surveillance.

                                  I actually started to move because there's an annoying bug they don't care to fix, ironically.

                                  And I can 95% recommend addy.io if you're lazy to run your own domain stuff.

                                  @_elena

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                                  • leonieke@squilla.vitaulium.euL leonieke@squilla.vitaulium.eu

                                    @_elena I'm still cleaning up all my proton stuff and I fear the transfer a bit, but in the coming months I'll move over to dutch provider @soverin keeping my own domain(s), but only after total clean-up of all aliases and gmail-remnants.

                                    I never realised I had to many accounts and subscriptions: I'm on a digital cleanse it seems

                                    ngel@ruby.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                                    ngel@ruby.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                                    ngel@ruby.social
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                                    #17

                                    @leonieke @_elena @soverin what made you choose them between other alternatives? I’m thinking on moving away from proton also.

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      @paulk totally understand, ESPECIALLY for something as sensitive as passwords. They've lost my trust... the only way forward for them is to fire Andy Yen AND their AI-pilled CTO. This is catastrophic for their image and reputation, I don't see any other way to recover

                                      marc_eu@mastodon.greenM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      marc_eu@mastodon.greenM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @_elena @paulk
                                      There's a list of EU alternatives, but there should also be a list of products and services that don't push AI in development.

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

                                        The biggest tech regret of my adult life is that I didn't use a custom domain name as my main email address, so that when things invariably go south, I can simply hop to a new email provider.

                                        The hundred or so email aliases I made with #Proton are a real headache right now. Time to clean up my mess.

                                        What am I talking about? This ICYMI: https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

                                        #NoAI #enshittification #ProtonMail

                                        ngel@ruby.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @_elena I’m in a similar scenario. Just weighing alternatives. Any thoughts?

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road.

                                          The biggest tech regret of my adult life is that I didn't use a custom domain name as my main email address, so that when things invariably go south, I can simply hop to a new email provider.

                                          The hundred or so email aliases I made with #Proton are a real headache right now. Time to clean up my mess.

                                          What am I talking about? This ICYMI: https://www.404media.co/manifestos-fear-and-loser-thinking-inside-protons-ai-reckoning/

                                          #NoAI #enshittification #ProtonMail

                                          michelpatrice@jasette.facil.servicesM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @_elena

                                          "The journey of tech empowerment and liberation from tech bros can be a long, bumpy road."

                                          "La route est longue, mais la voie est libre."(Framasoft)

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