Here’s a reminder about one of the most important results of the past fourteen years of ancient DNA research.
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@raymaccarthy @mrundkvist Thing is, the Scandinavians who eventually settled Iceland aren't descended from the Paleolithic Scandinavians who hunted reindeer in southern Scandinavia 10000 years ago. They (and all other currently-living Scandinavians, myself included) are descended from Neolithic steppe nomads who moved in from Western Asia and apparently completely wiped out the descendants of those reindeer hunters - likely mainly by plague, but possibly also with violence.
@datarama@hachyderm.io @raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie @mrundkvist@archaeo.social Natural selection hasn't gone away. And now "white" people are being replaced by people from countries where patriarchy still exists.
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@mrundkvist
Ahahahah, Kuopio is home to me!
The kalakukko grows on you!{random american searches...}
kalakukko
rye bread with fish filling
huh
sounds like it would be quite hardy and wholesome, excellent fuel for working outdoors in the cold
the taste is what i wonder about
someday i'll try it
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{random american searches...}
kalakukko
rye bread with fish filling
huh
sounds like it would be quite hardy and wholesome, excellent fuel for working outdoors in the cold
the taste is what i wonder about
someday i'll try it
@benroyce
There are two kinds, vendace and salmon. Definitely go with the vendace.
Also they have little mini ones in the market hall which are better for a first taste
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@mrundkvist @raymaccarthy the way we define historic people's by their pottery like this (see also the funnel beaker people). I wonder, are we the IKEA people?
@quixoticgeek @mrundkvist @raymaccarthy
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Here’s a reminder about one of the most important results of the past fourteen years of ancient DNA research. Northern Europe was overrun by plague-spreading steppe nomads less than 5000 years ago, causing an almost complete population replacement.
It’s a 1492 event. Everybody knows that us Northern Europeans aren’t the original inhabitants of North America. But we aren’t even the original inhabitants of Northern Europe.
@mrundkvist I've always had this feeling of "home" whenever I see a photo of Mongolia...
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Here’s a reminder about one of the most important results of the past fourteen years of ancient DNA research. Northern Europe was overrun by plague-spreading steppe nomads less than 5000 years ago, causing an almost complete population replacement.
It’s a 1492 event. Everybody knows that us Northern Europeans aren’t the original inhabitants of North America. But we aren’t even the original inhabitants of Northern Europe.
all human history is this
waves of this or that people, moving into new lands, replacing or mingling. little trickles or inundations
but there's always remnants, going back to the original wave: neanderthal DNA persists in us
so it goes with every other former population
neat tidbit:
in the philippines there are the original aeta. they live in the mountains, while the coastlines are malay
in madagascar, the original malay live in the mountains and the bantu dominate the coasts
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@mrundkvist I knew about a lot of migrations everywhere but I didn't know that there was such an early and desastrous plague wave.
Does it mean that the newcomers were more resistant against the plague?@NatureMC
The hypothesis is that the plague originated in Central Asia and spread to Europe and that the Western Steppe Herders were slightly resistant to the plague. The plague either killed off so many Europeans that the WSH could move in or spread to Europe because of the migrating WSH. Or maybe both.
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@benroyce
There are two kinds, vendace and salmon. Definitely go with the vendace.
Also they have little mini ones in the market hall which are better for a first taste
@mrundkvist{stares at his mcdonalds hamburger}
this isn't fair now i want to eat that instead
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{stares at his mcdonalds hamburger}
this isn't fair now i want to eat that instead
@benroyce
Oh yes. First stop at hessburger and try the rye-burger. Caramelized rye is a natural pairing for grilled beef!
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Here’s a reminder about one of the most important results of the past fourteen years of ancient DNA research. Northern Europe was overrun by plague-spreading steppe nomads less than 5000 years ago, causing an almost complete population replacement.
It’s a 1492 event. Everybody knows that us Northern Europeans aren’t the original inhabitants of North America. But we aren’t even the original inhabitants of Northern Europe.
Those of us with multiple strains of american indigenous and old tribal EU/UK genetics must be preserved.
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@benroyce
Oh yes. First stop at hessburger and try the rye-burger. Caramelized rye is a natural pairing for grilled beef!
@mrundkvistrule #1 for an american (or any foreigner) learning nordic food culture:
rye
rye bread
rye everything!
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rule #1 for an american (or any foreigner) learning nordic food culture:
rye
rye bread
rye everything!
@benroyce
Yeah, cooking skill is linearly associated to what you can do with rye.
Fancy restaurants like MustaLammas base their entire menu around local forage and interesting things can you do with rye, caraway, and cardamom
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@mrundkvist
Ahahahah, Kuopio is home to me!
The kalakukko grows on you! -
Here’s a reminder about one of the most important results of the past fourteen years of ancient DNA research. Northern Europe was overrun by plague-spreading steppe nomads less than 5000 years ago, causing an almost complete population replacement.
It’s a 1492 event. Everybody knows that us Northern Europeans aren’t the original inhabitants of North America. But we aren’t even the original inhabitants of Northern Europe.
@mrundkvist
*Coughs* in Neandertal -
@mrundkvist
Ahahahah, Kuopio is home to me!
The kalakukko grows on you!@dnavinci
I was confused to find a Wine Festival in full sway when I arrived.
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@dnavinci
I was confused to find a Wine Festival in full sway when I arrived.@mrundkvist
The first time I visited was also during that same festival!
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@benroyce
Yeah, cooking skill is linearly associated to what you can do with rye.
Fancy restaurants like MustaLammas base their entire menu around local forage and interesting things can you do with rye, caraway, and cardamom
@mrundkvist@benroyce
Og, and rye flatbread pizza regularly wins international competitions
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@benroyce
Yeah, cooking skill is linearly associated to what you can do with rye.
Fancy restaurants like MustaLammas base their entire menu around local forage and interesting things can you do with rye, caraway, and cardamom
@mrundkvistcomplex healthy carbs. but then the butter!
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@mrundkvist
For any statement, it becomes untrue at a certain level of detail.
In Finland this model breaks down somewhere near Kuusamo, which... Makes sense if you've ever tried to travel there.
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomalaiset@dnavinci @mrundkvist the (mostly in the male line) ancestors of the Finns arrived several centuries later and wiped out the descendant of the Corded Ware people who had wiped out the Neolithic farmers who had wiped out the Mesolithic hunter gatherers so that makes, three replacement events?
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@dnavinci @mrundkvist the (mostly in the male line) ancestors of the Finns arrived several centuries later and wiped out the descendant of the Corded Ware people who had wiped out the Neolithic farmers who had wiped out the Mesolithic hunter gatherers so that makes, three replacement events?
@_hic_haec_hoc
Not many Neolithic farmers in Finland. But the hunter-gatherers who lived there before the Corded Ware didn't practise a kind of burial that left much to sample for DNA.
