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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    @bovine3dom @Sobex @stefanlindbohm if I knew *for sure* that the Haparanda - Boden would run tomorrow morning, maybe that is not the worst idea. But I don't know that for sure, so it is too risky!

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    #217

    @jon @bovine3dom @Sobex @stefanlindbohm can you even get to Kemijärvi today anymore, since the morning sleepers have surely gone by now?

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      @bovine3dom @Sobex @stefanlindbohm if I knew *for sure* that the Haparanda - Boden would run tomorrow morning, maybe that is not the worst idea. But I don't know that for sure, so it is too risky!

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      #218

      @jon where's the risk? that they might run a train this evening but not tomorrow morning?

      the option i see is 1) go back to the start in Finland and try again. 2) if Boden is cancelled again, change the rules and take the Ersatzverkehr

      @Sobex @stefanlindbohm

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      • bovine3dom@masto.aiB bovine3dom@masto.ai

        @jon where's the risk? that they might run a train this evening but not tomorrow morning?

        the option i see is 1) go back to the start in Finland and try again. 2) if Boden is cancelled again, change the rules and take the Ersatzverkehr

        @Sobex @stefanlindbohm

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        #219

        @bovine3dom Yes. But if I get more then 24h delay in Lagos I have other problems then in Portugal after the record breaking effort! @Sobex @stefanlindbohm

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          Right then, this post outlines my options

          1) Change my rules, take the rail replacement bus, and do major re-planning, and lower risk connections

          2) Stick to my rules, and rely on tight connections later on in the journey

          Input welcome! I lean towards 2)

          https://crossborderrail.eu/messy-options-from-haparanda-to-hamburg/

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          @jon add me to the list of supporters for option 2. Power to you.

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          • taavi@wikis.worldT taavi@wikis.world

            @jon @bovine3dom @Sobex @stefanlindbohm can you even get to Kemijärvi today anymore, since the morning sleepers have surely gone by now?

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            #221

            @taavi @bovine3dom @Sobex @stefanlindbohm You can with a bus, probably.

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              So I just called Norrtåg

              There is a power line down somewhere. If it is fixed in time, 7185 will be a train. If it is NOT fixed in time it will be a bus... 🤔

              So how bad is this power line failure?

              @sebwilken @tml @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm

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              #222

              @jon I just left a meeting and haven't seen this chaos until now. @sebwilken @tml @stefanlindbohm

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                @taavi @bovine3dom @Sobex @stefanlindbohm You can with a bus, probably.

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                #223

                @jon @taavi @bovine3dom @stefanlindbohm But that's against the rules of a rail journey record, right ?

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                • sobex@social.sciences.reS sobex@social.sciences.re

                  @jon @taavi @bovine3dom @stefanlindbohm But that's against the rules of a rail journey record, right ?

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                  #224

                  @Sobex the rules say nothing about the means of transport you need to use for strategic retreats

                  @jon @taavi @stefanlindbohm

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                  • bovine3dom@masto.aiB bovine3dom@masto.ai

                    @Sobex the rules say nothing about the means of transport you need to use for strategic retreats

                    @jon @taavi @stefanlindbohm

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                    #225

                    @bovine3dom @Sobex @taavi @stefanlindbohm right. But as stated, I don’t know if it’d work!

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      @bovine3dom @Sobex @stefanlindbohm if I knew *for sure* that the Haparanda - Boden would run tomorrow morning, maybe that is not the worst idea. But I don't know that for sure, so it is too risky!

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                      #226

                      @jon Stats on the link below. I don’t think this page differentiates train not even scheduled from train cancelled (there have been track works this year that I assume explains many days not running), but despite some frequent delays it looks like at least outright cancellations are uncommon.

                      Since the cause was an overhead wire torn down by another train, it’s not specifically a systemic issue here.

                      I don’t dare making a judgement call though.

                      https://statistik.xn--tgexperterna-tcb.nu/punktlighet/7183

                      @bovine3dom @Sobex

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        Looks like the 13:47 Haparanda - Boden is *also* cancelled So I *might* be able to leave Haparanda at 19:38, and then get the night train at 22:18 from Boden

                        So I *might* be able to leave Haparanda at 19:38, and then get the night train at 22:18 from Boden to Stockholm - have reserved a (cancellable) bed on that in case it does work 🙂

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                        #227

                        @jon Swedish night trains work really well with Interrail, I‘ll give them that.

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                        • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

                          @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom @stefanlindbohm Well, I guess if Trafikverket says they need the whole line Boden–Murjek for urgent maintenance, Norrtåg can not say "but we only need to use it for a couple of kilometres a couple of times per day pretty please!?" Ordnung muss sein! Safety First!

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                          #228

                          @tml @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm Once upon a time, Haparandabanan had it's own exit from Boden. Things don't always improve. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK6i7KZiE6s

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                          • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

                            @jon Oh gosh.. and Sweden doesn't strike me as the country who neglects railway infrastructure, there's so much more to possibly happen but I didn't expect the first hiccup that early into the adventure! This is interesting and thrilling

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                            @hopla @jon Our maintenance deficit was calculated to something like 150 years to catch up on, excluding new maintenance that will be needed during those 150 years 😅😅

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                            • jonas_bostrom@mastodonsweden.seJ jonas_bostrom@mastodonsweden.se

                              @tml @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm Once upon a time, Haparandabanan had it's own exit from Boden. Things don't always improve. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK6i7KZiE6s

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                              #230

                              @Jonas_Bostrom This is the video I used to locate the power section boards and figure out that it’s using the same power section to Murjek 😅

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                              • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                                @jon Stats on the link below. I don’t think this page differentiates train not even scheduled from train cancelled (there have been track works this year that I assume explains many days not running), but despite some frequent delays it looks like at least outright cancellations are uncommon.

                                Since the cause was an overhead wire torn down by another train, it’s not specifically a systemic issue here.

                                I don’t dare making a judgement call though.

                                https://statistik.xn--tgexperterna-tcb.nu/punktlighet/7183

                                @bovine3dom @Sobex

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                                @stefanlindbohm ooh punycode. don't see that often in europe

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                                • jonas_bostrom@mastodonsweden.seJ jonas_bostrom@mastodonsweden.se

                                  @tml @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm Once upon a time, Haparandabanan had it's own exit from Boden. Things don't always improve. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK6i7KZiE6s

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                                  #232

                                  @Jonas_Bostrom @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm Wow, that was a weird solution. The line to Haparanda was on the *left* when leaving Boden and had to curve around and pass over Malmbanan on a bridge. Or did I misunderstand?

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                                  • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                                    @Jonas_Bostrom This is the video I used to locate the power section boards and figure out that it’s using the same power section to Murjek 😅

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                                    @stefanlindbohm Hyttfilmer kan vara användbara till både det ena och det andra!

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                                    • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

                                      @Jonas_Bostrom @jon @nafmo @sebwilken @stefanlindbohm Wow, that was a weird solution. The line to Haparanda was on the *left* when leaving Boden and had to curve around and pass over Malmbanan on a bridge. Or did I misunderstand?

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                                      #234

                                      @tml @Jonas_Bostrom I also found that a bit odd. Presumably because the platforms are by the leftmost tracks at Boden C station?

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                                      • sebwilken@mastodon.socialS sebwilken@mastodon.social

                                        @jon Swedish night trains work really well with Interrail, I‘ll give them that.

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                                        #235

                                        @sebwilken Right, and that tickets can all be cancelled right up to the last minute!

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                                        • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

                                          @tml @Jonas_Bostrom I also found that a bit odd. Presumably because the platforms are by the leftmost tracks at Boden C station?

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                                          @stefanlindbohm @tml Det stämmer, och det var en väldigt udda lösning. Min gissning är att det var för att tågen från Haparanda skulle kunna ta sig till perrongerna utan att störa trafiken på Malmbanan.

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