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  • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

    @bretthaines the Mac grep man page?

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    #28

    @b0rk yes, my work computer is a mac so that's the one I pull up more often. I forgot the Linux one is different 😅

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    • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

      do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

      my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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      #29
      man httpd
      man httpd.conf

      https://man.openbsd.org
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      • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

        do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

        my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

        pounce@types.plP This user is from outside of this forum
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        #30

        @b0rk i always think hier(7) is really neat

        b0rk@social.jvns.caB stonebear2@hachyderm.ioS 2 Replies Last reply
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        • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

          do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

          my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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          #31

          @b0rk the one I've used the most is `man bash`, because it's not just a man page, it's the documentation for the whole scripting language!

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          • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

            do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

            my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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            #32

            @b0rk

            I love the man bash
            But although the lvm commands man. With useful examples that cover lot of case !

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            • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

              do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

              my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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              #33

              @b0rk I do like it too, even thought it makes the man page 7195 lines long 😃 .

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              • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                #34

                @b0rk I don't believe to have a favourite. Yet, due to the rule (rather 'tip') "'Select' Isn't Broken", select(2) and the corresponding story behind the tip from the book "Pragmatic Programmer" comes to my mind 🙂

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                • derickr@phpc.socialD derickr@phpc.social

                  @b0rk I do like it too, even thought it makes the man page 7195 lines long 😃 .

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                  #35

                  @derickr @b0rk

                  ❤ It's searchable.

                  That makes it alright. 😄

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                  • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                    do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                    my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                    #36

                    @b0rk my favourite was an early version of less(1), whose one-line synopsis was:

                    less - better than more(1)

                    Which it was, because you could go _backwards_... that was the first program I ever compiled from downloaded source.

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                    • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                      do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                      my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                      #37

                      I think my favourite man page example so far is this rsync man page (via @shnizmuffin) https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/rsync.1.html

                      it gives examples BEFORE giving an exhaustive list of options!

                      the synopsis just says "rsync [OPTION...] SRC... [DEST]" instead of giving you an exhaustive list of options like "-ABCFGHILOPRSTUWabcdefghiklmnopqrstuvwxy1%"!

                      there's an "OPTION SUMMARY" section that gives you a 1-line summary of each option! (this feels SO SO much useful than the normal SYNOPSIS to me)

                      (2/?)

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                      • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                        do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                        my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                        #38

                        @b0rk it's also my favourite hairstyle

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                        • pounce@types.plP pounce@types.pl

                          @b0rk i always think hier(7) is really neat

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                          #39

                          @pounce that's cool, I'd never seen that

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                          • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                            @shnizmuffin what do you like about it? (also: you mean this one right? https://linux.die.net/man/1/rsync)

                            i like that it takes a different approach to the SYNOPSIS and puts examples before the comprehensive list of all options, I haven't seen that a lot

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                            #40

                            @b0rk It leads with examples from most common to least common, and sorts its many options following similar logic.

                            It's basically ...

                            1. WTF am I looking at. (--verbose et al)
                            2. Sensible defaults (--archive)
                            3. How do I change one thing (--no-OPTION)
                            4. Filepath stuff
                            5. Link stuff
                            6. Permission stuff
                            7. File metadata stuff
                            8. Config stuff
                            9. Filter stuff
                            10. Shit one person needed once
                            11. --human-readable
                            12. please don't run forever
                            13. --version, --help

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                            • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                              I think my favourite man page example so far is this rsync man page (via @shnizmuffin) https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/rsync.1.html

                              it gives examples BEFORE giving an exhaustive list of options!

                              the synopsis just says "rsync [OPTION...] SRC... [DEST]" instead of giving you an exhaustive list of options like "-ABCFGHILOPRSTUWabcdefghiklmnopqrstuvwxy1%"!

                              there's an "OPTION SUMMARY" section that gives you a 1-line summary of each option! (this feels SO SO much useful than the normal SYNOPSIS to me)

                              (2/?)

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                              #41

                              @b0rk @shnizmuffin if something needs a solid man page, it's probably rsync. 😄

                              Destroyer of files.
                              With great power comes great responsibility.

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                              • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                                my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                                #42

                                @b0rk@jvns.ca i often work offline, so i like long and elaborate man pages that go into every absurd detail but also note in-program help mechanisms

                                • nvim because it provides a jump start to :Tutor and :help quickref
                                • zshall because it explains All the syntax
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                                • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                  do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                                  my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                                  #43

                                  @b0rk In the attention to detail category, the BUG detailed in the NetBSD sleep(1) man page is a favourite:

                                  https://man.netbsd.org/sleep.1#BUGS

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                                  • shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lolS shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lol

                                    @b0rk It leads with examples from most common to least common, and sorts its many options following similar logic.

                                    It's basically ...

                                    1. WTF am I looking at. (--verbose et al)
                                    2. Sensible defaults (--archive)
                                    3. How do I change one thing (--no-OPTION)
                                    4. Filepath stuff
                                    5. Link stuff
                                    6. Permission stuff
                                    7. File metadata stuff
                                    8. Config stuff
                                    9. Filter stuff
                                    10. Shit one person needed once
                                    11. --human-readable
                                    12. please don't run forever
                                    13. --version, --help

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                                    #44

                                    @shnizmuffin i didn’t even notice the option sorting, that’s so good

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                                    • ludonaut@timetheft.socialL ludonaut@timetheft.social

                                      @thomastc @b0rk glad to help 🙂

                                      i regularly use that page to show the young ones at work why ^H (Ctrl-H) is backspace, ^I is tab and ^[ is literally escape, it's just a flipped bit in ascii (which i suspect is the reason the columns are laid out like that)

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                                      #45

                                      @ludonaut @thomastc @b0rk Is my memory making up things, or did there used to be an ebcdic(7) page as well at some time?

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                                      • pounce@types.plP pounce@types.pl

                                        @b0rk i always think hier(7) is really neat

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                                        #46

                                        @pounce Oooooh, today I learned! @b0rk

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                                        • nabnux@piaille.frN nabnux@piaille.fr

                                          @b0rk the one I've used the most is `man bash`, because it's not just a man page, it's the documentation for the whole scripting language!

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                                          #47

                                          @nabnux @b0rk many years ago I was told to read man bash. I referenced it many more times over the years. Mostly when scripting loops.

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