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Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

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  • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

    Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

    You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM

    #alltogethermarch
    28 03 26

    gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
    gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
    gimulnautti@mastodon.green
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    #21

    @Geri Awesome!

    I’ve always found demonstrations to be not just displays of discontempt, but networking events. What happens after the demo often counts for more.

    And of course, reality manufacturing from MSM being in the hands of the far-right is accelerating as a counter-strategy. The only thing they know is doubling down. And they are afraid!

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    • tcatinreality@mastodon.socialT tcatinreality@mastodon.social

      @HarriettMB @Geri

      Yaxley-Lennon already had a standing ban in the USA for trying to enter on a fraudulent passport years earlier.

      Someone powerful waived that to admit him to America on short notice.

      Now, who would want that? 🤔

      harriettmb@toot.walesH This user is from outside of this forum
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      #22

      @TCatInReality @Geri It seems he’s being sponsored by a politician named Rittenhouse. I wonder if that one is any relation to the young Kyle Rittenhouse who crossed state lines with guns and murdered non-white people: who escaped justice, and who isn’t the leader/hero the Republicans tried to make him?

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      • harriettmb@toot.walesH harriettmb@toot.wales

        @TCatInReality @Geri It seems he’s being sponsored by a politician named Rittenhouse. I wonder if that one is any relation to the young Kyle Rittenhouse who crossed state lines with guns and murdered non-white people: who escaped justice, and who isn’t the leader/hero the Republicans tried to make him?

        tcatinreality@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #23

        @HarriettMB @Geri

        Don't know who. But a Congressman wouldn't have that kind of power.

        Here's a nice summary of Yaxley-Lennon's crimes and legal problems.
        https://uk.news.yahoo.com/tommy-robinson-timeline-legal-troubles-133503633.html

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        • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

          Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

          You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM

          #alltogethermarch
          28 03 26

          M This user is from outside of this forum
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          madmorgan@mastodon.social
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          #24

          @Geri Absolutely with the protesters

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          • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

            Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

            You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM

            #alltogethermarch
            28 03 26

            L This user is from outside of this forum
            L This user is from outside of this forum
            luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place
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            #25

            @Geri It's a clear sign, but you can make sure of it only on next ballots. The sentiment of 1930s Germany isn't spreading only for today's US, it is fueled in many countries: expecially "allied" ones.

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            • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

              Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

              You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM

              #alltogethermarch
              28 03 26

              rapsneezy@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #26

              @Geri

              I just looked at Sky News website and this is story number 25 after scrolling down quite far.

              Yes, twenty five.

              I didn't check the BBC website out of principle.

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              • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

                You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM

                #alltogethermarch
                28 03 26

                budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB This user is from outside of this forum
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                budududuroiu@hachyderm.io
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                #27

                @Geri ... organisers claim

                The Met claims 50,000, so the number is probably somewhere in the middle

                wizzwizz4@fosstodon.orgW geri@mastodon.onlineG 2 Replies Last reply
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                • tcatinreality@mastodon.socialT tcatinreality@mastodon.social

                  @Geri

                  Zero stories in the #BBCNews app today

                  But you can read the story of people whose skin "is falling off" (story # 4)

                  Can't argue with those news priorities.
                  /s

                  FFS, #MediaMustDoBetter

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                  #28

                  @TCatInReality @Geri

                  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2rn03ryz8o

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                  • geri@mastodon.onlineG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #29

                    @diffrentcolours and in the Daily Mirror xx

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                    • budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB budududuroiu@hachyderm.io

                      @Geri ... organisers claim

                      The Met claims 50,000, so the number is probably somewhere in the middle

                      wizzwizz4@fosstodon.orgW This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #30

                      @budududuroiu @Geri That's not necessarily true (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation). You'd want to take into account the track records of the various parties involved (e.g. for systematic error, and partisan reporting bias), look into the methodology used to produce the estimates, and perhaps try your hand at producing your own estimate.

                      As Wikipedia says: if one party claims the sky is blue, and another party claims it's yellow, that doesn't mean the sky is "probably a shade of green".

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                      • wizzwizz4@fosstodon.orgW wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org

                        @budududuroiu @Geri That's not necessarily true (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation). You'd want to take into account the track records of the various parties involved (e.g. for systematic error, and partisan reporting bias), look into the methodology used to produce the estimates, and perhaps try your hand at producing your own estimate.

                        As Wikipedia says: if one party claims the sky is blue, and another party claims it's yellow, that doesn't mean the sky is "probably a shade of green".

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                        #31

                        @wizzwizz4 @Geri my methodology is simple, I use the Metallica method.

                        I look at the Moscow 1991 Metallica concert (which was estimated at around 1.6 million attendees on an airfield), and compare

                        Is it likely that the picture on the left from the Together Alliance protest shows a crowd 1/3rd the size of the crowd on the right? Unlikely.

                        Edit: it's not that I want to pour cold water on Together Alliance, but I also realise they have partisan reasons for inflating the number of attendees

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                        • budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB budududuroiu@hachyderm.io

                          @wizzwizz4 @Geri my methodology is simple, I use the Metallica method.

                          I look at the Moscow 1991 Metallica concert (which was estimated at around 1.6 million attendees on an airfield), and compare

                          Is it likely that the picture on the left from the Together Alliance protest shows a crowd 1/3rd the size of the crowd on the right? Unlikely.

                          Edit: it's not that I want to pour cold water on Together Alliance, but I also realise they have partisan reasons for inflating the number of attendees

                          wizzwizz4@fosstodon.orgW This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #32

                          @budududuroiu @Geri That's a good method! However, the people in the picture on the left are largely confined to a road, which stretches out of frame on both sides; you'd also want to take into account how much of the road is occupied when making your estimate. Is there any way to get an idea of that?

                          But yeah: the Together Alliance want their (reported) crowd sizes to be bigger than the (reported) crowd sizes in the far-right rallies, so there's motive. (The Met also has motive.)

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                          • budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB budududuroiu@hachyderm.io

                            @Geri ... organisers claim

                            The Met claims 50,000, so the number is probably somewhere in the middle

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                            #33

                            @budududuroiu were you there?

                            I have attended numerous marches in London xx

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                            • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                              @budududuroiu were you there?

                              I have attended numerous marches in London xx

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                              #34

                              @Geri why does that matter? I've been to Glasto and there's no way I could tell you how many people are in attendance at whatever stage I'm at at the time

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                              • lad_hallo@mastodon.socialL lad_hallo@mastodon.social

                                @TCatInReality @Geri

                                https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2rn03ryz8o

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                                #35

                                @LaD_Hallo @TCatInReality look at the bias in this

                                The 4th paragraph is bold text and talks about 100,000 marchers

                                Yesterday's march is described as tens of 1,000s

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                                • wizzwizz4@fosstodon.orgW wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org

                                  @budududuroiu @Geri That's a good method! However, the people in the picture on the left are largely confined to a road, which stretches out of frame on both sides; you'd also want to take into account how much of the road is occupied when making your estimate. Is there any way to get an idea of that?

                                  But yeah: the Together Alliance want their (reported) crowd sizes to be bigger than the (reported) crowd sizes in the far-right rallies, so there's motive. (The Met also has motive.)

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                                  #36

                                  @wizzwizz4 @Geri yeah crowd estimation is hard, I think it's an own goal when you boast numbers that don't seem plausible. It was easy to mock Tommy Robinson's 3 million crowd size at his protests

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                                  • geri@mastodon.onlineG geri@mastodon.online

                                    Yesterday, over 500,000 people marched in Central London in what was the biggest defiance of far right politics

                                    You will hear all most next to nothing about this in the MSM

                                    #alltogethermarch
                                    28 03 26

                                    zymurgic@mastodon.onlineZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #37

                                    @Geri I did actually hear about it on BBC radio 2.

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                                    • budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB budududuroiu@hachyderm.io

                                      @wizzwizz4 @Geri yeah crowd estimation is hard, I think it's an own goal when you boast numbers that don't seem plausible. It was easy to mock Tommy Robinson's 3 million crowd size at his protests

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                                      #38

                                      @budududuroiu @wizzwizz4 being there you can get an understanding of size because of how slowly it moves xx

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                                      • budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB budududuroiu@hachyderm.io

                                        @Geri why does that matter? I've been to Glasto and there's no way I could tell you how many people are in attendance at whatever stage I'm at at the time

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                                        #39

                                        @budududuroiu you get an understanding of size if you are present rather than just watching on a TV

                                        BTW the Daily Mirror are leading with 500 K

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                                        • budududuroiu@hachyderm.ioB budududuroiu@hachyderm.io

                                          @wizzwizz4 @Geri yeah crowd estimation is hard, I think it's an own goal when you boast numbers that don't seem plausible. It was easy to mock Tommy Robinson's 3 million crowd size at his protests

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                                          #40

                                          @budududuroiu @wizzwizz4 3 million is obviously implausible when the Stop the War March before Iraq was considered to be the biggest protest

                                          Feb 15, 2003 Stop the War (Iraq War) 1 - 2 Million
                                          Mar 23, 2019 Put it to the People (Brexit) 1 Million
                                          Oct 19, 2019 Let Us Be Heard (Brexit) 1 Million
                                          Nov 11, 2023 National March for Palestine 800,000
                                          Oct 11, 2025 National March for Palestine 600,000

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