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Welcome to today's thread - 2025 #CrossBorderRail Finale Day 8 - 16 June - Bruxelles- Köln - Hamburg, onto night train

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    Welcome to today's thread - 2025 #CrossBorderRail Finale Day 8 - 16 June - Bruxelles- Köln - Hamburg, onto night train

    Today's new borders:
    None - I've been to Aachen a few times before 😀

    Borders map, inc. borders re-crossed:
    https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_935041#18/50.71857/6.04204

    Today's trains on the routes map:
    https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#6/55.198/11.206

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      Welcome to today's thread - 2025 #CrossBorderRail Finale Day 8 - 16 June - Bruxelles- Köln - Hamburg, onto night train

      Today's new borders:
      None - I've been to Aachen a few times before 😀

      Borders map, inc. borders re-crossed:
      https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_935041#18/50.71857/6.04204

      Today's trains on the routes map:
      https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#6/55.198/11.206

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      #2

      Semi refreshed after a rest day, it's time to head towards the two hardest borders I am missing - both Norway-Sweden. First it's back to Germany to an event in Köln, then Hamburg, and then onto the SJ night train to Stockholm, a service I have been meaning to take for years now but haven't yet!

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        Semi refreshed after a rest day, it's time to head towards the two hardest borders I am missing - both Norway-Sweden. First it's back to Germany to an event in Köln, then Hamburg, and then onto the SJ night train to Stockholm, a service I have been meaning to take for years now but haven't yet!

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        #3

        Wave yourself up with this one this morning! Today's #CrossBorderRail music track

        Nightrain
        Guns N' Roses

        I think I am going to need this to get myself to sleep on the SJ Night Train heading north later

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMDljoM5JFI

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          Wave yourself up with this one this morning! Today's #CrossBorderRail music track

          Nightrain
          Guns N' Roses

          I think I am going to need this to get myself to sleep on the SJ Night Train heading north later

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMDljoM5JFI

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          #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 37 of 152
          ICE 11
          06:23 Bruxelles Midi - Köln Hbf 08:15
          DB Fernverkehr

          Train type: Siemens ICE3neo Velaro, 8 carriages
          ⚡️ (3kV dc, 25kV ac, 3kV dc, 25kV ac, 3kV dc, 15kV ac)
          🚲: ✅ (needs reservation)
          🦽: ✅ (lift on board or ramp on platform, but not step free)
          🛜: ✅
          🍽️: ✅
          🧳: 🙂 (well designed)️
          🧽: ☹️ (it wasn't cleaned overnight and is full of beer bottles, and I cleaned beer off my seat myself. Train manager was apologetic at least)

          🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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            #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 37 of 152
            ICE 11
            06:23 Bruxelles Midi - Köln Hbf 08:15
            DB Fernverkehr

            Train type: Siemens ICE3neo Velaro, 8 carriages
            ⚡️ (3kV dc, 25kV ac, 3kV dc, 25kV ac, 3kV dc, 15kV ac)
            🚲: ✅ (needs reservation)
            🦽: ✅ (lift on board or ramp on platform, but not step free)
            🛜: ✅
            🍽️: ✅
            🧳: 🙂 (well designed)️
            🧽: ☹️ (it wasn't cleaned overnight and is full of beer bottles, and I cleaned beer off my seat myself. Train manager was apologetic at least)

            🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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            #5

            ICE 11
            06:23 Bruxelles Midi - Köln Hbf 08:15

            Distance: 222.9km
            Average speed: 119km/h

            4 stops:
            Bruxelles-Nord
            Liège-Guillemins
            Aachen Hbf
            Köln Hbf

            This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#10/50.7783/5.6476

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              ICE 11
              06:23 Bruxelles Midi - Köln Hbf 08:15

              Distance: 222.9km
              Average speed: 119km/h

              4 stops:
              Bruxelles-Nord
              Liège-Guillemins
              Aachen Hbf
              Köln Hbf

              This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#10/50.7783/5.6476

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              #6

              Hey Bundespolizei in Aachen!

              We have a person on board with known connections to the Chinese secret service, and a proven record of trying to bring down the German state in an anti democratic manner

              If your border controls are any use, this person should not be let through, surely?

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Krah

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                Hey Bundespolizei in Aachen!

                We have a person on board with known connections to the Chinese secret service, and a proven record of trying to bring down the German state in an anti democratic manner

                If your border controls are any use, this person should not be let through, surely?

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Krah

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                #7

                Here's today's intro video, filmed from Gare du Midi

                But I was a bit sweaty from having cycled there!

                https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/sM6yD7qkaDV2T9rLE5CEGk

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  Here's today's intro video, filmed from Gare du Midi

                  But I was a bit sweaty from having cycled there!

                  https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/sM6yD7qkaDV2T9rLE5CEGk

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                  Meanwhile in France...

                  SNCF can now fine you up to €1500 for forgetting a bag somewhere

                  *YOU DO NOT STOP PEOPLE BEING FORGETFUL BY FINING THEM*

                  *AND NOT EVERY ABANDONED BAG IS A BOMB*

                  FFS

                  Let's make taking the train as nasty an experience as possible

                  https://www.journaldunet.com/patrimoine/finances-personnelles/1542323-hf1-nouvelle-amende-sncf/

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    Meanwhile in France...

                    SNCF can now fine you up to €1500 for forgetting a bag somewhere

                    *YOU DO NOT STOP PEOPLE BEING FORGETFUL BY FINING THEM*

                    *AND NOT EVERY ABANDONED BAG IS A BOMB*

                    FFS

                    Let's make taking the train as nasty an experience as possible

                    https://www.journaldunet.com/patrimoine/finances-personnelles/1542323-hf1-nouvelle-amende-sncf/

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                    #9

                    So either there were no border controls at all in Aachen, or the police are on board and boarded at the back and haven't got to me yet. But we're just about on time heading for Köln. Given the mess of the last week I'll take this, happily! 😀

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      So either there were no border controls at all in Aachen, or the police are on board and boarded at the back and haven't got to me yet. But we're just about on time heading for Köln. Given the mess of the last week I'll take this, happily! 😀

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                      #10

                      Pottering around Köln for #CrossChannelRail this morning. Will complete the feed once I’m in the ICE to Hamburg shortly.

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                        Pottering around Köln for #CrossChannelRail this morning. Will complete the feed once I’m in the ICE to Hamburg shortly.

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                        Waiting my train to Hamburg at Köln Hbf, one of Europe’s great stations. Today all is reasonably calm here, delays minimal.

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                          Waiting my train to Hamburg at Köln Hbf, one of Europe’s great stations. Today all is reasonably calm here, delays minimal.

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                          On the point earlier in the thread about France's new fines for forgotten luggage, I think we should describe France has having a "passenger hostile railway" - as a term to describe how decisions are not taken in the passenger interest, the assumption of guilt, the hefty fines, the patronising announcements...

                          Is there a way to adequately translate this adequately into French? Wdzt @remi @tomtom @raph_v ?

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                            On the point earlier in the thread about France's new fines for forgotten luggage, I think we should describe France has having a "passenger hostile railway" - as a term to describe how decisions are not taken in the passenger interest, the assumption of guilt, the hefty fines, the patronising announcements...

                            Is there a way to adequately translate this adequately into French? Wdzt @remi @tomtom @raph_v ?

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                            #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 38 of 154
                            RE 1 (26810)
                            10:20 Köln Ehrenfeld - Horrem 10:28
                            National Express

                            Train type: Siemens Desiro HC EMU, 2x 2 single deck and 2 double deck carriages
                            ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                            🚲: ✅
                            🦽: ✅ (step free into single deck carriages)
                            🛜: ✅
                            🍽️: ⛔️
                            🧳: 🙂
                            🧽: 🙂

                            🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                              #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 38 of 154
                              RE 1 (26810)
                              10:20 Köln Ehrenfeld - Horrem 10:28
                              National Express

                              Train type: Siemens Desiro HC EMU, 2x 2 single deck and 2 double deck carriages
                              ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                              🚲: ✅
                              🦽: ✅ (step free into single deck carriages)
                              🛜: ✅
                              🍽️: ⛔️
                              🧳: 🙂
                              🧽: 🙂

                              🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                              RE 1 (26810)
                              10:20 Köln Ehrenfeld - Horrem 10:28

                              Distance: 14.7km
                              Average speed: 110km/h

                              1 stops:
                              Horrem

                              This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#13/50.9345/6.8162

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                                RE 1 (26810)
                                10:20 Köln Ehrenfeld - Horrem 10:28

                                Distance: 14.7km
                                Average speed: 110km/h

                                1 stops:
                                Horrem

                                This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#13/50.9345/6.8162

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                                #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 39 of 154
                                S 19
                                10:59 Horrem - Köln Hbf 11:20
                                DB Regio AG NRW

                                Train type: Adtranz, Alstom LHB, ABB, Bombardier 423 EMU, 2x 4 short carriages
                                ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                                🚲: ✅
                                🦽: ✅ (step free, although not all trains on this line are)
                                🛜: ❓(forgot to check, but I think only renovated trains have wifi and this wasn’t renovated?)
                                🍽️: ⛔️
                                🧳: 😐 (not the best design, door vestibules are more cramped than they need be)
                                🧽: 🙂

                                🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                                  #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 39 of 154
                                  S 19
                                  10:59 Horrem - Köln Hbf 11:20
                                  DB Regio AG NRW

                                  Train type: Adtranz, Alstom LHB, ABB, Bombardier 423 EMU, 2x 4 short carriages
                                  ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                                  🚲: ✅
                                  🦽: ✅ (step free, although not all trains on this line are)
                                  🛜: ❓(forgot to check, but I think only renovated trains have wifi and this wasn’t renovated?)
                                  🍽️: ⛔️
                                  🧳: 😐 (not the best design, door vestibules are more cramped than they need be)
                                  🧽: 🙂

                                  🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                                  S 19
                                  10:59 Horrem - Köln Hbf 11:20

                                  Distance: 18.4km
                                  Average speed: 53km/h

                                  7 stops:
                                  Frechen-Königsdorf
                                  Köln-Weiden West
                                  Lövenich
                                  Köln-Müngersdorf Technologiepark
                                  Köln-Ehrenfeld
                                  Köln Hansaring
                                  Köln Hbf

                                  This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#12/50.9360/6.8378

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                                    S 19
                                    10:59 Horrem - Köln Hbf 11:20

                                    Distance: 18.4km
                                    Average speed: 53km/h

                                    7 stops:
                                    Frechen-Königsdorf
                                    Köln-Weiden West
                                    Lövenich
                                    Köln-Müngersdorf Technologiepark
                                    Köln-Ehrenfeld
                                    Köln Hansaring
                                    Köln Hbf

                                    This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#12/50.9360/6.8378

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                                    #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 40 of 154
                                    ICE 1020
                                    12:11 Köln Hbf - Hamburg Hbf 15:51
                                    DB Fernverkehr

                                    Train type: AEG, ABB, Henschel, Krauss, Krupp, Siemens ICE 1, 2 power cars and 9 carriages
                                    ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                                    🚲: ⛔️
                                    🦽: ✅ (needs lift on platform)
                                    🛜: ✅
                                    🍽️: ✅
                                    🧳: 🙂
                                    🧽: 🙂

                                    🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                                      #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 40 of 154
                                      ICE 1020
                                      12:11 Köln Hbf - Hamburg Hbf 15:51
                                      DB Fernverkehr

                                      Train type: AEG, ABB, Henschel, Krauss, Krupp, Siemens ICE 1, 2 power cars and 9 carriages
                                      ⚡️ (15kV ac)
                                      🚲: ⛔️
                                      🦽: ✅ (needs lift on platform)
                                      🛜: ✅
                                      🍽️: ✅
                                      🧳: 🙂
                                      🧽: 🙂

                                      🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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                                      #18

                                      ICE 1020
                                      12:11 Köln Hbf - Hamburg Hbf 15:51

                                      Distance: 436.9km
                                      Average speed: 119km/h

                                      6 stops:
                                      Düsseldorf Hbf
                                      Duisburg Hbf
                                      Essen Hbf
                                      Münster(Westf)Hbf
                                      Hamburg-Harburg
                                      Hamburg Hbf

                                      This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#7/52.266/8.399

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                                        ICE 1020
                                        12:11 Köln Hbf - Hamburg Hbf 15:51

                                        Distance: 436.9km
                                        Average speed: 119km/h

                                        6 stops:
                                        Düsseldorf Hbf
                                        Duisburg Hbf
                                        Essen Hbf
                                        Münster(Westf)Hbf
                                        Hamburg-Harburg
                                        Hamburg Hbf

                                        This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#7/52.266/8.399

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                                        #19

                                        The southbound EuroNight 345 from Stockholm to Berlin is still more than 2 hours away from Hamburg is currently +733, so over 12 hours late

                                        They are NOT taking it to Berlin, it will be serviced in Hamburg

                                        And this train ought to be departing north as EN 346 with me on it from Hamburg at 22:03

                                        What is going to happen I wonder? 🤔

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                                          The southbound EuroNight 345 from Stockholm to Berlin is still more than 2 hours away from Hamburg is currently +733, so over 12 hours late

                                          They are NOT taking it to Berlin, it will be serviced in Hamburg

                                          And this train ought to be departing north as EN 346 with me on it from Hamburg at 22:03

                                          What is going to happen I wonder? 🤔

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                                          One of the most dangerous things you can carry in a railway station

                                          This is S-Bahn so third rail, they might be ok. But one platform over it’s 15kV ⚡️

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