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Welcome to today's thread - 2025 #CrossBorderRail Finale Day 8 - 16 June - Bruxelles- Köln - Hamburg, onto night train

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    One of the most dangerous things you can carry in a railway station

    This is S-Bahn so third rail, they might be ok. But one platform over it’s 15kV ⚡️

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    #21

    Departure of the Hamburg-Stockholm EuroNight announced 90 mins delayed just 25 mins before the departure, after having been informed earlier by SJ that "an unknown delay was possible"

    There's nothing in the SJ app, and DB also knows no more than the minimal info SJ is giving them

    It's lousy, but it's what you'd expect of this operationally shoddy EuroNight train

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      Departure of the Hamburg-Stockholm EuroNight announced 90 mins delayed just 25 mins before the departure, after having been informed earlier by SJ that "an unknown delay was possible"

      There's nothing in the SJ app, and DB also knows no more than the minimal info SJ is giving them

      It's lousy, but it's what you'd expect of this operationally shoddy EuroNight train

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      #22

      And now 10 mins later the delay is reduced by 20 mins.

      Do they know what they're doing, or are they making this up?

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        And now 10 mins later the delay is reduced by 20 mins.

        Do they know what they're doing, or are they making this up?

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        #23

        Current contingency: see when the train departs, and then get off it prematurely tomorrow morning, in Malmö

        X2000 Malmö-Stockholm takes between 4:20 and 4:35, the night train more than 6 hours (and if delayed anyway will just get delayed more)

        I just need to work out which X2000 it would be sensible to reserve...

        (Interrail means I can do this reasonably easily and for 75 SEK)

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          Current contingency: see when the train departs, and then get off it prematurely tomorrow morning, in Malmö

          X2000 Malmö-Stockholm takes between 4:20 and 4:35, the night train more than 6 hours (and if delayed anyway will just get delayed more)

          I just need to work out which X2000 it would be sensible to reserve...

          (Interrail means I can do this reasonably easily and for 75 SEK)

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          #24

          Ah

          If the SJ-RDC mess wasn’t enough, DB has now managed to clog up all the platforms at Hamburg Hbf with delayed ICEs. So if the EuroNight is trying to get in here it can’t.

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            Ah

            If the SJ-RDC mess wasn’t enough, DB has now managed to clog up all the platforms at Hamburg Hbf with delayed ICEs. So if the EuroNight is trying to get in here it can’t.

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            #25

            And we’ve had about a dozen automated announcements about the delay here on the platform, and the delay goes up 10 minutes every 10 minutes 🤷‍♂️

            Thank goodness I’m doing this on Interrail

            Buy a regular ticket for this and it’s a fortune

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              And we’ve had about a dozen automated announcements about the delay here on the platform, and the delay goes up 10 minutes every 10 minutes 🤷‍♂️

              Thank goodness I’m doing this on Interrail

              Buy a regular ticket for this and it’s a fortune

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              #26

              And some dude wrote in The Guardian a week ago that night trains were often poor. And now he’s living it himself 🤪 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/11/europe-was-promised-a-new-golden-age-of-the-night-train-why-are-we-still-waiting

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                And some dude wrote in The Guardian a week ago that night trains were often poor. And now he’s living it himself 🤪 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/11/europe-was-promised-a-new-golden-age-of-the-night-train-why-are-we-still-waiting

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                #27

                Every

                single

                time

                I

                go

                to

                Sweden

                the

                trains

                go

                wrong

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  Every

                  single

                  time

                  I

                  go

                  to

                  Sweden

                  the

                  trains

                  go

                  wrong

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                  #28

                  Here’s today’s summary video

                  https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/rKvwC3itEDb3DYxTkK3E5F

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    Here’s today’s summary video

                    https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/rKvwC3itEDb3DYxTkK3E5F

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                    #29

                    #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 41 of 154
                    EN 346
                    22:03 Hamburg Hbf - Malmö C 04:01 (arrived +150)
                    SJ, RDC

                    Train type: ADTranz 101, followed by a Siemens Vectron, 8 carriages (inc. couchettes & sleeping cars)
                    ⚡️ (15kV ac, 25kV ac, 15kV ac)
                    🚲: ⛔️
                    🦽: ✅ (lift on platform)
                    🛜: ⛔️
                    🍽️: ✅ (at least there's breakfast)
                    🧳: 😐 (very narrow doors, corridors, OK once in)
                    🧽: 😐 (ok inside, but grimy outside, worn)

                    🎫 Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs vary depending on class of accommodation)

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 41 of 154
                      EN 346
                      22:03 Hamburg Hbf - Malmö C 04:01 (arrived +150)
                      SJ, RDC

                      Train type: ADTranz 101, followed by a Siemens Vectron, 8 carriages (inc. couchettes & sleeping cars)
                      ⚡️ (15kV ac, 25kV ac, 15kV ac)
                      🚲: ⛔️
                      🦽: ✅ (lift on platform)
                      🛜: ⛔️
                      🍽️: ✅ (at least there's breakfast)
                      🧳: 😐 (very narrow doors, corridors, OK once in)
                      🧽: 😐 (ok inside, but grimy outside, worn)

                      🎫 Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs vary depending on class of accommodation)

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                      #30

                      EN 346
                      22:03 Hamburg Hbf - Malmö C 04:01

                      Distance: 544.9km
                      Average speed: 91km/h

                      3 stops:
                      Padborg st
                      Koebenhavns Lufthavn st
                      Malmö Central

                      This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#8/54.821/11.148

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        EN 346
                        22:03 Hamburg Hbf - Malmö C 04:01

                        Distance: 544.9km
                        Average speed: 91km/h

                        3 stops:
                        Padborg st
                        Koebenhavns Lufthavn st
                        Malmö Central

                        This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#8/54.821/11.148

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                        #31

                        Comedy now

                        The window latch is somehow broken so the window won’t close. And the window blind is stuck open

                        It’s 1am

                        I’m pretty good at fixing things. But this? 🤔

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          Comedy now

                          The window latch is somehow broken so the window won’t close. And the window blind is stuck open

                          It’s 1am

                          I’m pretty good at fixing things. But this? 🤔

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                          #32

                          Ah

                          Luggage lock hooked onto my mobile phone charger stops the blind springing open.

                          Obviously! 😀

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            Ah

                            Luggage lock hooked onto my mobile phone charger stops the blind springing open.

                            Obviously! 😀

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                            #33

                            Hello old friend!

                            I’m not hanging around on the knackered night train to Stockholm but am changing instead in Malmö onto a X2000 to Stockholm

                            Despite my general annoyance at Swedish trains, X2000 is nevertheless super

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              Hello old friend!

                              I’m not hanging around on the knackered night train to Stockholm but am changing instead in Malmö onto a X2000 to Stockholm

                              Despite my general annoyance at Swedish trains, X2000 is nevertheless super

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                              #34

                              So is there a ferry I can take somewhere on the way back? 🤔

                              @partim is laughing at me for this meanwhile

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                So is there a ferry I can take somewhere on the way back? 🤔

                                @partim is laughing at me for this meanwhile

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                                #35

                                Annoyingly there is no viable way to re-plan onto a ferry next weekend, and still get to Bourgogne the same day the ferry arrives somewhere.

                                But I have found ways around every conceivable SJ and wider Swedish rail dysfunction I think. Even if - by some shocker - the night train southbound is on time I can catch it up.

                                And I have 3 hours 20 mins buffer in Hamburg.

                                Should be enough...? 🤔

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  Annoyingly there is no viable way to re-plan onto a ferry next weekend, and still get to Bourgogne the same day the ferry arrives somewhere.

                                  But I have found ways around every conceivable SJ and wider Swedish rail dysfunction I think. Even if - by some shocker - the night train southbound is on time I can catch it up.

                                  And I have 3 hours 20 mins buffer in Hamburg.

                                  Should be enough...? 🤔

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                                  #36

                                  @jon Go to Malmö by day train and have the uncomfortable EC1195 from Copenhagen as backup?

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                                  • interrailinfosvenska@mastodonsweden.seI interrailinfosvenska@mastodonsweden.se

                                    @jon Go to Malmö by day train and have the uncomfortable EC1195 from Copenhagen as backup?

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                                    #37

                                    @interrailinfosvenska Yes, exactly that. The only headache: I am starting in Oslo, and everything to Kalmar *and* to Göteborg is closed. So I am on a Flixbus to Grums, and start the train trip there.

                                    But yes, I can get to Kbh for the EuroCity if I need it (i.e. I know the EuroNight is a mess before I get to Nässjö)

                                    Edit: Karlstad not Kalmar. I’m tired 😀

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      @interrailinfosvenska Yes, exactly that. The only headache: I am starting in Oslo, and everything to Kalmar *and* to Göteborg is closed. So I am on a Flixbus to Grums, and start the train trip there.

                                      But yes, I can get to Kbh for the EuroCity if I need it (i.e. I know the EuroNight is a mess before I get to Nässjö)

                                      Edit: Karlstad not Kalmar. I’m tired 😀

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                                      #38

                                      @jon
                                      The west coast line is blocked in Varberg June 9 - July 13, that's why Göteborg is a mess.

                                      In that time, they switch from the old single track line to the new double tracked tunnel. This should free up a lot of capacity, I guess that's why there's suddenly so much demand for Oslo-Copenhagen paths next year.
                                      @interrailinfosvenska

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