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I appear to be having my first Wiki-argument.

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  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

    I appear to be having my first Wiki-argument. I feel there should be a traditional way to mark this milestone in life. Greeting cards in the shops that say: 'Congratulations on your special day, Wikipedian - Happy Wiki Row!' A nicely bound, beribboned book with 'Baby's First Wiki Row' in gold letters on the front where you record the steps.

    mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #5

    @CiaraNi
    I find that staying out of the argument, waiting a week or two, then fixing the article with referenced information works well.

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    • nichni@mastodonapp.ukN nichni@mastodonapp.uk

      @CiaraNi Congratulations.
      So much better than discussing with annoying strangers om LinkedIn!

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      #6

      @nichni Haha yes 🙂

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      • carstenboll@mstdn.dkC carstenboll@mstdn.dk

        @CiaraNi What's the argument over? Am I missing out by not fighting with people online?

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        #7

        @CarstenBoll It's an extremely unsolicited argument. Someone posting unsolicited advice at me about how I should be a better Wikipedian and take better photos. With links to tips. They're welcome to make revisions or nominate my stuff for deletion if they want, but I think they should do that on the relevant content pages, not turn up and lecture me on my own page. If they're right, then the community can assess and decide on the specific case on the content page.

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        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

          I appear to be having my first Wiki-argument. I feel there should be a traditional way to mark this milestone in life. Greeting cards in the shops that say: 'Congratulations on your special day, Wikipedian - Happy Wiki Row!' A nicely bound, beribboned book with 'Baby's First Wiki Row' in gold letters on the front where you record the steps.

          psneeze@mastodon.ieP This user is from outside of this forum
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          #8

          @CiaraNi I like the idea of 'Baby's First Wiki Row'.

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          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

            @CarstenBoll It's an extremely unsolicited argument. Someone posting unsolicited advice at me about how I should be a better Wikipedian and take better photos. With links to tips. They're welcome to make revisions or nominate my stuff for deletion if they want, but I think they should do that on the relevant content pages, not turn up and lecture me on my own page. If they're right, then the community can assess and decide on the specific case on the content page.

            carstenboll@mstdn.dkC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #9

            @CiaraNi Reasonable take. A real 'spurgt' moment, it sounds like.

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            • mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM mrundkvist@archaeo.social

              @CiaraNi
              I find that staying out of the argument, waiting a week or two, then fixing the article with referenced information works well.

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              #10

              @mrundkvist The problem (as I experience it) is that they are not making an objection on the relevant content page. They have, not for the first time, turned up on my user page with unsolicited 'advice' about how I can be a better Wikipedian and share better photos that meet the wiki-guidelines. If they want to object, I think the process is simple - they can use the content page and be specific and nominate for deletion, then the community (in which I greatly trust) can decide.

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              • psneeze@mastodon.ieP psneeze@mastodon.ie

                @CiaraNi I like the idea of 'Baby's First Wiki Row'.

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                #11

                @psneeze I can definitely see that on a cake.

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                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                  @mrundkvist The problem (as I experience it) is that they are not making an objection on the relevant content page. They have, not for the first time, turned up on my user page with unsolicited 'advice' about how I can be a better Wikipedian and share better photos that meet the wiki-guidelines. If they want to object, I think the process is simple - they can use the content page and be specific and nominate for deletion, then the community (in which I greatly trust) can decide.

                  mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #12

                  @CiaraNi
                  That's bullying. Call in an admin.

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                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                    @psneeze I can definitely see that on a cake.

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                    #13

                    @CiaraNi And we'd refer to the candles as 'burns'.

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                    • psneeze@mastodon.ieP psneeze@mastodon.ie

                      @CiaraNi And we'd refer to the candles as 'burns'.

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                      #14

                      @psneeze Ha oh yes, we would, that's perfect

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                      • mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM mrundkvist@archaeo.social

                        @CiaraNi
                        That's bullying. Call in an admin.

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                        #15

                        @mrundkvist I don't want to escalate really. I normally just ignore, but something about it bugged me enough to reply directly to his post on my page. I think it's because it's Wiki. It's about sharing free resources as a community and helping each other in collaboration, so a veteran putting a newcomer down with condescension and territorial behaviour seems counter-productive. If he has a point, it's lost in the way he delivered it and just makes me think I'm not arsed doing more Wiki-stuff.

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                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                          @mrundkvist I don't want to escalate really. I normally just ignore, but something about it bugged me enough to reply directly to his post on my page. I think it's because it's Wiki. It's about sharing free resources as a community and helping each other in collaboration, so a veteran putting a newcomer down with condescension and territorial behaviour seems counter-productive. If he has a point, it's lost in the way he delivered it and just makes me think I'm not arsed doing more Wiki-stuff.

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                          #16

                          @CiaraNi
                          #Wikipedia is chock full of men who consider themselves well-meaning but have clinically significant social impairments.

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                          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                            @mrundkvist I don't want to escalate really. I normally just ignore, but something about it bugged me enough to reply directly to his post on my page. I think it's because it's Wiki. It's about sharing free resources as a community and helping each other in collaboration, so a veteran putting a newcomer down with condescension and territorial behaviour seems counter-productive. If he has a point, it's lost in the way he delivered it and just makes me think I'm not arsed doing more Wiki-stuff.

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                            #17

                            @CiaraNi @mrundkvist That would be a shame for you to quit. I'm going to guess this guy wouldn't try that behaviour with a newbie male Wikipedian.

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                            • nichni@mastodonapp.ukN nichni@mastodonapp.uk

                              @CiaraNi Congratulations.
                              So much better than discussing with annoying strangers om LinkedIn!

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                              #18

                              @nichni @CiaraNi They should also make cards for "I finally deleted my LinkedIn account today!", maybe more people would leave that twisted, useless place.

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                              • ticho@mas.toT ticho@mas.to

                                @nichni @CiaraNi They should also make cards for "I finally deleted my LinkedIn account today!", maybe more people would leave that twisted, useless place.

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                                #19

                                @ticho @nichni @CiaraNi wanna do more? Update your profile with faux info. Make yourself the emperor of some island off the coast of Antarctica

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                                • mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM mrundkvist@archaeo.social

                                  @CiaraNi
                                  #Wikipedia is chock full of men who consider themselves well-meaning but have clinically significant social impairments.

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                                  #20

                                  @mrundkvist @CiaraNi

                                  As the proverb says, "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."

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                                  • ticho@mas.toT ticho@mas.to

                                    @nichni @CiaraNi They should also make cards for "I finally deleted my LinkedIn account today!", maybe more people would leave that twisted, useless place.

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                                    #21

                                    @ticho @CiaraNi Some people I know use it for flirting. Maybe the most productive application.

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                                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                      @mrundkvist I don't want to escalate really. I normally just ignore, but something about it bugged me enough to reply directly to his post on my page. I think it's because it's Wiki. It's about sharing free resources as a community and helping each other in collaboration, so a veteran putting a newcomer down with condescension and territorial behaviour seems counter-productive. If he has a point, it's lost in the way he delivered it and just makes me think I'm not arsed doing more Wiki-stuff.

                                      henrikmillinge@fikaverse.clubH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #22

                                      @CiaraNi @mrundkvist This is exactly one of the reasons I left Wikipedia after fifteen years as an editor.

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                                      • nichni@mastodonapp.ukN nichni@mastodonapp.uk

                                        @ticho @CiaraNi Some people I know use it for flirting. Maybe the most productive application.

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                                        #23

                                        @nichni @CiaraNi "Heyyy baby, wanna hustle 25/8 together? Let's synergize our portfolios sometimes!" Blech. 🤮

                                        Let's just leave the LLM bots and virtue-signalling middle manager scum to themselves, they'll be happy there.

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                                        • henrikmillinge@fikaverse.clubH henrikmillinge@fikaverse.club

                                          @CiaraNi @mrundkvist This is exactly one of the reasons I left Wikipedia after fifteen years as an editor.

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                                          #24

                                          @henrikmillinge
                                          😔

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