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  3. If your cookie dialog doesn’t have a “reject all” button at the top level, or worse, doesn't even have the button at all and makes me uncheck 200 options of “legitimate use” manually, I consider you of highly dubious moral character.

If your cookie dialog doesn’t have a “reject all” button at the top level, or worse, doesn't even have the button at all and makes me uncheck 200 options of “legitimate use” manually, I consider you of highly dubious moral character.

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  • digitalstefan@fosstodon.orgD digitalstefan@fosstodon.org

    @jamesthomson I'm currently in a project where we will be changing the presentation of a cookie banner. It's currently a typical (but compliant) "Allow All" / "Essential Only".

    UK law changed and there is no longer a requirement for there to be a "reject all" because "we" are allowed to do some collectiong of data for analytics, A:B testing and some other things.

    I'm not sure if we're going to be one of the first, big sites that will be doing this

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    #12

    @digitalstefan Ugh, why would the UK do that?

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    • renardboy@mastodon.socialR renardboy@mastodon.social

      @jamesthomson Man this is the first time I see anyone else post about this here.

      jamesthomson@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #13

      @renardboy Look, maybe not an original thought, but it was annoying me!

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      • jamesthomson@mastodon.socialJ jamesthomson@mastodon.social

        If your cookie dialog doesn’t have a “reject all” button at the top level, or worse, doesn't even have the button at all and makes me uncheck 200 options of “legitimate use” manually, I consider you of highly dubious moral character.

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        #14

        @jamesthomson man i legitimately though mastodon had some cookie discourse going on like yo ready made cookie dough is great.

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        • jamesthomson@mastodon.socialJ jamesthomson@mastodon.social

          If your cookie dialog doesn’t have a “reject all” button at the top level, or worse, doesn't even have the button at all and makes me uncheck 200 options of “legitimate use” manually, I consider you of highly dubious moral character.

          bnlandor@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #15

          @jamesthomson In Europe, AFAIK that's a violation of GDPR, yet no one seems to care.

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          • bnlandor@mastodon.socialB bnlandor@mastodon.social

            @jamesthomson In Europe, AFAIK that's a violation of GDPR, yet no one seems to care.

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            #16

            @bnlandor @jamesthomson it's all gone quiet since #Facebook got away with "pay up or loose your privacy" modal

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            • jamesthomson@mastodon.socialJ jamesthomson@mastodon.social

              If your cookie dialog doesn’t have a “reject all” button at the top level, or worse, doesn't even have the button at all and makes me uncheck 200 options of “legitimate use” manually, I consider you of highly dubious moral character.

              twoclownseating@beige.partyT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #17

              @jamesthomson

              I consider websites and organizations that do not respect or allow consent, the same as people who do the same.

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              • jamesthomson@mastodon.socialJ jamesthomson@mastodon.social

                If your cookie dialog doesn’t have a “reject all” button at the top level, or worse, doesn't even have the button at all and makes me uncheck 200 options of “legitimate use” manually, I consider you of highly dubious moral character.

                isaaclyman@toot.cafeI This user is from outside of this forum
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                #18

                @jamesthomson I want to meet the person who sees a cookie dialog and thinks “hm, yes, 110 advertising partners deserve a little treat today”

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                • jamesthomson@mastodon.socialJ jamesthomson@mastodon.social

                  If your cookie dialog doesn’t have a “reject all” button at the top level, or worse, doesn't even have the button at all and makes me uncheck 200 options of “legitimate use” manually, I consider you of highly dubious moral character.

                  woe2you@beige.partyW This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #19

                  @jamesthomson You and your 943 partners.

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                  • jamesthomson@mastodon.socialJ jamesthomson@mastodon.social

                    If your cookie dialog doesn’t have a “reject all” button at the top level, or worse, doesn't even have the button at all and makes me uncheck 200 options of “legitimate use” manually, I consider you of highly dubious moral character.

                    chancerubbage@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #20

                    @jamesthomson @joesteel

                    Chances are good you will not need cookies to navigate the site anyway, as you will not be digging deeper into site content and web map, or changing s thing, only passively reading one article.

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                    • jamesthomson@mastodon.socialJ jamesthomson@mastodon.social

                      If your cookie dialog doesn’t have a “reject all” button at the top level, or worse, doesn't even have the button at all and makes me uncheck 200 options of “legitimate use” manually, I consider you of highly dubious moral character.

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                      #21

                      @jamesthomson close tab works for me.

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                      • jamesthomson@mastodon.socialJ jamesthomson@mastodon.social

                        If your cookie dialog doesn’t have a “reject all” button at the top level, or worse, doesn't even have the button at all and makes me uncheck 200 options of “legitimate use” manually, I consider you of highly dubious moral character.

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                        #22

                        @jamesthomson doesn't seem like a website worth visiting

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                        • isaaclyman@toot.cafeI isaaclyman@toot.cafe

                          @jamesthomson I want to meet the person who sees a cookie dialog and thinks “hm, yes, 110 advertising partners deserve a little treat today”

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                          #23

                          @isaaclyman @jamesthomson Maybe they even pay to show up as an advertiser. Kind of a marketing scheme?

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                          • jamesthomson@mastodon.socialJ jamesthomson@mastodon.social

                            If your cookie dialog doesn’t have a “reject all” button at the top level, or worse, doesn't even have the button at all and makes me uncheck 200 options of “legitimate use” manually, I consider you of highly dubious moral character.

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                            #24

                            @jamesthomson Sometimes I wonder if it's actual humans implementing those things. Like, someone has looked at it and thought "this is fine”, and then shown it to their boss and their boss is like "this is fine" ... on every single one.

                            I've never been able to bring myself to do it.

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                            • jamesthomson@mastodon.socialJ jamesthomson@mastodon.social

                              If your cookie dialog doesn’t have a “reject all” button at the top level, or worse, doesn't even have the button at all and makes me uncheck 200 options of “legitimate use” manually, I consider you of highly dubious moral character.

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                              #25

                              @jamesthomson
                              And I WILL uncheck all of them.

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                              • jamesthomson@mastodon.socialJ jamesthomson@mastodon.social

                                If your cookie dialog doesn’t have a “reject all” button at the top level, or worse, doesn't even have the button at all and makes me uncheck 200 options of “legitimate use” manually, I consider you of highly dubious moral character.

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                                #26

                                @jamesthomson oh shit that reminds me, i need to add a "fuck cookies" to the footer on my website

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                                • jamesthomson@mastodon.socialJ jamesthomson@mastodon.social

                                  @renardboy Look, maybe not an original thought, but it was annoying me!

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                                  #27

                                  @jamesthomson No I feel you, it's some sordid bullshit.

                                  I seriously suspect that the "legitimate interest" cookies are enough for the data collectors to do all their nasty business. And then if you actually go through with unchecking those, this puts you in such an infinitesimally small user niche that they can (and do) track you that way all the same.

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                                  • jamesthomson@mastodon.socialJ jamesthomson@mastodon.social

                                    @digitalstefan Ugh, why would the UK do that?

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                                    #28

                                    @jamesthomson probably something political and I try to not get into political discussions on social media because … well it’s a shitshow.

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                                    • jamesthomson@mastodon.socialJ jamesthomson@mastodon.social

                                      If your cookie dialog doesn’t have a “reject all” button at the top level, or worse, doesn't even have the button at all and makes me uncheck 200 options of “legitimate use” manually, I consider you of highly dubious moral character.

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                                      #29

                                      @jamesthomson some of the largest sites think they can absolve themselves of responsibility by outsourcing their (in my opinion) deception to OneTrust - awaiting the litigation

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                                      • x0x@mastodon.socialX x0x@mastodon.social

                                        @jamesthomson some of the largest sites think they can absolve themselves of responsibility by outsourcing their (in my opinion) deception to OneTrust - awaiting the litigation

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                                        #30

                                        @jamesthomson the dark patterns seem, in my opinion only, deep in OneTrust’s blood, and other offenders of course. One general pattern: the moment you uncheck a box or click customize, suddenly “accept all“ appears, shifts, or enlarges.

                                        Generally this kind is behavior leads me to believe those involved do not care about their less technical family members, friends, or neighbors. If they looked at their family trees they would have to circle many ancestors who would be abused by their creations.

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                                        • jamesthomson@mastodon.socialJ jamesthomson@mastodon.social

                                          If your cookie dialog doesn’t have a “reject all” button at the top level, or worse, doesn't even have the button at all and makes me uncheck 200 options of “legitimate use” manually, I consider you of highly dubious moral character.

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                                          #31

                                          @jamesthomson And technically illegal in the EU! It must be as easy to reject all as it is to accept all cookies.

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