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  • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

    @sodiboo @EUCommission remember europe is the “AI continent” so anything goes

    w@mountains.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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    #41

    @hsza @sodiboo @EUCommission Flow charts will be so much better when the centrally planned and tax funded 🇪🇺 AI gIgAfAcToRiEs 🇪🇺 are up and running

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    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

      Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

      The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

      ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
      🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
      📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
      📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

      Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

      hllizi@hespere.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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      #42

      @EUCommission how long until this is scrapped again due to German butt aches?

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      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

        Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

        The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

        ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
        🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
        📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
        📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

        Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

        sorro@woof.techS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #43

        @EUCommission this is amazing!!!

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        • w@mountains.socialW w@mountains.social

          @hsza @sodiboo @EUCommission Flow charts will be so much better when the centrally planned and tax funded 🇪🇺 AI gIgAfAcToRiEs 🇪🇺 are up and running

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          #44

          @w @sodiboo @EUCommission theyre dedicating an entire continent to enriching nvidia

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          • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

            Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

            The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

            ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
            🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
            📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
            📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

            Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

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            #45

            @EUCommission Maybe you could just rely on free market itself and instead of adding more mandatory obligations, just make possible create spare parts, service and allow to create whatever parts without need of license/approval to do so? A mandatory revealing schema after some time would be welcome too.

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            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

              Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

              The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

              ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
              🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
              📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
              📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

              Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

              phl@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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              #46

              @EUCommission Finally a good idea from y'all.

              But what the crap is that slopware graphic that apparently nobody in your PR department read.

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              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

                The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

                ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
                🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
                📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
                📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

                Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

                johan_e_m@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                johan_e_m@mastodon.social
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                #47

                @EUCommission finally!!

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                • farooqkz@mastodon.bsd.cafeF farooqkz@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                  @EUCommission

                  Moreover, you should think of something about phones and tablets with healthy hardware but outdated software. So many companies especially in China stop the software updates/upgrades after like 2-3 years. And moreover, they also make it too hard for the #FOSS communities to come up with alternative operating system for these devices.

                  Some companies lock the device to prevent installing custom OS.

                  Some other violate #GPL and they don't release the #Linux source code for their devices.

                  Some release the GPL code with a 1 year delay. Which means FOSS community is 1 year behind to bring custom OS to the device.

                  All of these contribute to #ewaste and they harm the planet. And many people are forced to buy a new phone/tablet every 1-3 years to get a newer Android version.

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                  #48

                  @farooqkz @EUCommission yeah...unsupported devices should be stripped off any locking, both software or legal.

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                  • grundeinkommenaberrichtig@mastodon.socialG grundeinkommenaberrichtig@mastodon.social

                    @EUCommission now every company has a great reason to make your everyday electrical stuff really expensive

                    "You know... we need more skilled stuff, a location to fix things, and we need to store 100000 spare parts, you don't want to wait for shipping, do you? "

                    #righttorepair #prices #skills #poverty

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                    #49

                    @GrundeinkommenAberRichtig @EUCommission Interesting, back when repairability was normal, things weren't "really expensive".

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                    • drew@gamerstavern.onlineD drew@gamerstavern.online

                      @EUCommission parts should be sold at a price that makes repairing financially attractive. Bosch is bundling cheap parts with the most expensive part of their washing machines, making a repair nearly just as costly as replacing the whole machine. That's not viable for repair shops or anyone really.

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                      #50

                      @Drew @EUCommission actually, kind of "repairability" score (like ifixit do have) would make much more sense...

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                      • enea90@mastodon.socialE enea90@mastodon.social

                        @EUCommission That's a good step. However, devices can also get obsolete if they no longer receive updates, even if the hardware part works perfectly. This has a name: planned obsolescence. Something needs to be done about this too.

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                        #51

                        @Enea90 @EUCommission unsupported devices should become automatically FOSS and open.

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                        • catha@masto.esC catha@masto.es

                          @EUCommission

                          May I ask 2 questions please?

                          * Have you considered many EU citizen live on an island? So, repair itself might become cheaper, but who is going to pay for the costs for the technician? Especially when it's still under warranty.
                          We bought a new laundry machine, although the broken one was still under warranty. But the costs for a technician was almost as high as a new one. New one came in 3 days. Technician and parts would have been in about 10 days ...

                          Again: please consider while making your rules and regulations that not everybody in the EU live at the same circumstances, but those EU citizens too do have the same rights!

                          2nd: when is there going to be a rule like the c-to-c for phones /chargers for other standard things? Most of those are made in plastic, some even never used because the customer uses/puts the devise/whatever on another possible way.
                          I have made a list, if you are interested. That would make a lot less garbage in the world.

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                          #52

                          @Catha @EUCommission Um, do no technicians live on Ireland, Malta, Cyprus? Kreta? Åland? Saaremaa?

                          And this doesn't mean you, the end user, are obligated to use an unaffordable technician. It's just that the devices sold are required to be more repairable than they are now.

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                          • the_error@witter.czT the_error@witter.cz

                            @Enea90 @EUCommission unsupported devices should become automatically FOSS and open.

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                            #53

                            @The_ERROR @EUCommission Fair point 👍.

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                            • the_error@witter.czT the_error@witter.cz

                              @EUCommission Maybe you could just rely on free market itself and instead of adding more mandatory obligations, just make possible create spare parts, service and allow to create whatever parts without need of license/approval to do so? A mandatory revealing schema after some time would be welcome too.

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                              #54

                              @The_ERROR @EUCommission Ah, the free market... that's known for making things simpler for the users and not at all invested in maximising profit with complete disregard to its customers. Regulations are necessary to keep the "free" market reined in and more in service of the people.

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                              • vitor@hachyderm.ioV vitor@hachyderm.io

                                @EUCommission What does “Should I Toss My Broken Tech? > Do I hate money? > Yes > A bit!” even mean?

                                And what does hating money have to do with repairability?

                                I don’t recall the last time I saw such a nonsensical and poorly made decision tree.

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                                #55

                                @vitor @EUCommission thank you! I thought I was just too stupid to read it until I found your comment 😂

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                                • phl@mastodon.socialP phl@mastodon.social

                                  @The_ERROR @EUCommission Ah, the free market... that's known for making things simpler for the users and not at all invested in maximising profit with complete disregard to its customers. Regulations are necessary to keep the "free" market reined in and more in service of the people.

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                                  #56

                                  @The_ERROR @EUCommission Incidentally, requiring the delicensing of parts and repair methods is also an interference in this "free market" — and one that IP holders will refuse to comply with. (though posting schematics with devices sold was extremely common until like the 90s; peculiar...)

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                                  • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

                                    @sodiboo @EUCommission remember europe is the “AI continent” so anything goes

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                                    #57

                                    @hsza @EUCommission @sodiboo No, you read that wrong. Europe is AI INcontinent.

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                                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                      Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

                                      The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

                                      ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
                                      🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
                                      📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
                                      📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

                                      Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

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                                      #58

                                      @EUCommission Where can we send our privacy to get it fixed?

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                                      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                        Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

                                        The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

                                        ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
                                        🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
                                        📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
                                        📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

                                        Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

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                                        #59

                                        @EUCommission Also this is kinda funny in the light of being forced to buy a new phone if I want to interface with my health insurance company, because some "security requirements" enforcing a minimum of Android 14.

                                        Because as we all know, even if I could install an off-brand OS on my otherwise perfectly functional device, with proper security updates, it would still be banned by banks and other stuff because it's not Genuine American Corporate Lord Android.

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                                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                          Your phone breaks. Your washing machine gives up. Somehow, buying new seems cheaper than repairing.

                                          The EU is making the Right to Repair the new standard in Europe.

                                          ✅Repairs must be offered even after your warranty ends
                                          🔧Parts must be available after the model is no longer sold
                                          📅Choose repair under warranty and get an extra year of legal coverage
                                          📍An EU platform will help you find local repair shops and fair prices

                                          Less waste, more repairs. Good for your wallet, even better for the planet.

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                                          #60

                                          @EUCommission that image makes absolutely no sense. 🤷‍♂️

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