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  3. I was about to Have Opinions about the threats the US is making to Greenland, Denmark and Europe, then realised I have nothing useful to add, so I pressed Delete.

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  • headword@lingo.lolH headword@lingo.lol

    @CiaraNi @walfischbucht It seems Estonian has got it right with their word ‘täpid’ for ‘umlaut’. And Finnish has a word ‘ääkönen’ meaning ‘any Finnish letter with an umlaut’, and it's really just the word for letter (‘aakonen’) with umlauts sprinkled on it.

    (according to Wiktionary: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/umlaut#English, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%A4%C3%A4kk%C3%B6nen#Finnish)

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    #55

    @headword @walfischbucht 'Täpid’ - that's more like it. I'm going to need Germans to speak Estonian from now on, so, please.

    Also, thanks for this information. Very pleasing to learn.

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    • headword@lingo.lolH headword@lingo.lol

      @CiaraNi @walfischbucht It seems Estonian has got it right with their word ‘täpid’ for ‘umlaut’. And Finnish has a word ‘ääkönen’ meaning ‘any Finnish letter with an umlaut’, and it's really just the word for letter (‘aakonen’) with umlauts sprinkled on it.

      (according to Wiktionary: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/umlaut#English, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%A4%C3%A4kk%C3%B6nen#Finnish)

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      #56

      @headword @CiaraNi @walfischbucht
      Aakonen: Regular letter.
      Ääkönen: Fäncÿ lëttër.

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      • mabande@mastodon.socialM mabande@mastodon.social

        @headword @CiaraNi @walfischbucht
        Aakonen: Regular letter.
        Ääkönen: Fäncÿ lëttër.

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        #57

        @Mabande Nice @headword @walfischbucht

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        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

          It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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          #58

          @CiaraNi

          There should be! 🙂

          I love saying the word 'umlaut' 😁

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          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

            @wannabemystiker I know, right? When Mette Frederiksen is finished with Trump, we'll ask her to get on to fixing this next.

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            #59

            @CiaraNi
            😆

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            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

              I was about to Have Opinions about the threats the US is making to Greenland, Denmark and Europe, then realised I have nothing useful to add, so I pressed Delete. Instead, here's a picture I took of a bridge because it had splendid umlauts.

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              #60

              @CiaraNi
              I might add:

              The word Mühlenbrücke (mill bridge) is also an interesting case of two silent letters in the German language, one making the preceding vowel long (h) and one that makes it short (c). In other terms: Those two ü's aren't even pronounced the same way.

              🙂

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              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                #61

                @CiaraNi well, you can always create the diminutive with -chen, tweaking it to contain an umlaut:

                Umläutchen

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                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                  @shivers @psneeze I always liked the fact that fada just means 'long', the plain practicality of it. I didn't know 'umlaut' has a similar trait. 'About sound'. That was a pleasing new-to-me thing to learn. GRMA

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                  #62

                  @CiaraNi
                  Omlyd, direkte oversat

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                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                    @tml @hanscees This is interesting! I freely admit that I just use the word Umlaut casually for any old two dots I see over any old letter, the way I say 'astronomical' for things that are not even that big.

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                    #63

                    @CiaraNi @tml I had no idea about the plurality thing of an umlaut. But does that mean motorhead is plural? It is very laut and I would say even umlaut!

                    https://youtu.be/Qa1wdUkeuvE

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                      #64
                      The one positive from the fascist's reign is that he has united the rest of the world in a way rarely seen.

                      As a fellow threatenee, I feel close to Denmark in a way i never have.

                      We have "elbows up"(a hockey reference) as our rallying cry. Do you have anything similar?
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                      • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

                        @CiaraNi @hanscees Sorry for being boring, but just felt like writing this: (And you probably know this already, but others might not.)

                        Personally I use the term "umlaut" only to describe the phenomenon in German and Swedish (and possibly other Germanic languages) where the spelling of a word changes when it is inflected in plural so that to an "a" or "o" the two dots are added. Like "Apfel" (apple) (singular) -> "Äpfel" (apples) (plural), or in Swedish "man" (man) -> "män" (men).

                        But not all instances of ä or ö in German or Swedish are umlauts. For instance "Käse" (cheese) in German or kärna (kernel) in Swedish are not plural, and are not some other inflection either of a corresponding word without the dots. There is no corresponding word "Kase" or "karna".

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                        #65

                        @tml @CiaraNi @hanscees

                        And let's not forget that sometimes what looks like an umlaut is actually a diaeresis.
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic)

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                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                          It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                          #66

                          @CiaraNi
                          One of my many cheeky pleasures is to deliberately pronounce the umlauts in the band name "Mötley Crüe".

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                          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                            It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                            #67

                            @CiaraNi I'm studying an 18th century German musician named Friedrich Dulon. I'm monolingual, and the U in his name has one, and I have no idea what it means for pronunciation.

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                            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                              It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                              #68

                              @CiaraNi
                              cedilla would like a word.

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                              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                I was about to Have Opinions about the threats the US is making to Greenland, Denmark and Europe, then realised I have nothing useful to add, so I pressed Delete. Instead, here's a picture I took of a bridge because it had splendid umlauts.

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                                #69

                                @CiaraNi Me, too, regarding "nothing useful to add" — no matter how horrified I am.

                                Very cool umlauts!

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                                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                  It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                                  #70

                                  @CiaraNi Nor in the French ë/ï/ü – the trema (l’accent tréma)

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                                  • mlazz@aus.socialM mlazz@aus.social

                                    @tml @CiaraNi @hanscees

                                    And let's not forget that sometimes what looks like an umlaut is actually a diaeresis.
                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic)

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                                    #71

                                    @mlazz @tml @CiaraNi why the name that reminds me of very thin stuff coming out of a colon. But we call this trema in Dutch
                                    geëvenaard

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                                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                      It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                                      #72

                                      @CiaraNi

                                      It would be impossible to type on a US keyboard, not to talk about the crime known as 7-bit ASCII.

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                                      • rvedotrc@tech.lgbtR rvedotrc@tech.lgbt

                                        @CiaraNi

                                        acuté
                                        gràve
                                        circûmflex
                                        çedilla

                                        I see what you mean, ümlaut would work so much better

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                                        #73

                                        @rvedotrc @CiaraNi There’s an actual haček in the word haček! (But that’s the Czech name for the diacritic, I think it’s called caron in English)

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                                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                          @shivers @psneeze I always liked the fact that fada just means 'long', the plain practicality of it. I didn't know 'umlaut' has a similar trait. 'About sound'. That was a pleasing new-to-me thing to learn. GRMA

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                                          #74

                                          @CiaraNi @shivers @psneeze Greetings from Germany!
                                          It is not "about sound", rather "around sound" as in "something is around the sound" (not as in "surround sound", sadly).

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