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  3. I was about to Have Opinions about the threats the US is making to Greenland, Denmark and Europe, then realised I have nothing useful to add, so I pressed Delete.

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  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

    It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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    #58

    @CiaraNi

    There should be! 🙂

    I love saying the word 'umlaut' 😁

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    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

      @wannabemystiker I know, right? When Mette Frederiksen is finished with Trump, we'll ask her to get on to fixing this next.

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      #59

      @CiaraNi
      😆

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      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

        I was about to Have Opinions about the threats the US is making to Greenland, Denmark and Europe, then realised I have nothing useful to add, so I pressed Delete. Instead, here's a picture I took of a bridge because it had splendid umlauts.

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        #60

        @CiaraNi
        I might add:

        The word Mühlenbrücke (mill bridge) is also an interesting case of two silent letters in the German language, one making the preceding vowel long (h) and one that makes it short (c). In other terms: Those two ü's aren't even pronounced the same way.

        🙂

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        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

          It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

          datenhalde@nrw.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #61

          @CiaraNi well, you can always create the diminutive with -chen, tweaking it to contain an umlaut:

          Umläutchen

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          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

            @shivers @psneeze I always liked the fact that fada just means 'long', the plain practicality of it. I didn't know 'umlaut' has a similar trait. 'About sound'. That was a pleasing new-to-me thing to learn. GRMA

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            #62

            @CiaraNi
            Omlyd, direkte oversat

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            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

              @tml @hanscees This is interesting! I freely admit that I just use the word Umlaut casually for any old two dots I see over any old letter, the way I say 'astronomical' for things that are not even that big.

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              #63

              @CiaraNi @tml I had no idea about the plurality thing of an umlaut. But does that mean motorhead is plural? It is very laut and I would say even umlaut!

              https://youtu.be/Qa1wdUkeuvE

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                #64
                The one positive from the fascist's reign is that he has united the rest of the world in a way rarely seen.

                As a fellow threatenee, I feel close to Denmark in a way i never have.

                We have "elbows up"(a hockey reference) as our rallying cry. Do you have anything similar?
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                • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

                  @CiaraNi @hanscees Sorry for being boring, but just felt like writing this: (And you probably know this already, but others might not.)

                  Personally I use the term "umlaut" only to describe the phenomenon in German and Swedish (and possibly other Germanic languages) where the spelling of a word changes when it is inflected in plural so that to an "a" or "o" the two dots are added. Like "Apfel" (apple) (singular) -> "Äpfel" (apples) (plural), or in Swedish "man" (man) -> "män" (men).

                  But not all instances of ä or ö in German or Swedish are umlauts. For instance "Käse" (cheese) in German or kärna (kernel) in Swedish are not plural, and are not some other inflection either of a corresponding word without the dots. There is no corresponding word "Kase" or "karna".

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                  #65

                  @tml @CiaraNi @hanscees

                  And let's not forget that sometimes what looks like an umlaut is actually a diaeresis.
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic)

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                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                    It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                    #66

                    @CiaraNi
                    One of my many cheeky pleasures is to deliberately pronounce the umlauts in the band name "Mötley Crüe".

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                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                      It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                      #67

                      @CiaraNi I'm studying an 18th century German musician named Friedrich Dulon. I'm monolingual, and the U in his name has one, and I have no idea what it means for pronunciation.

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                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                        It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                        #68

                        @CiaraNi
                        cedilla would like a word.

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                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                          I was about to Have Opinions about the threats the US is making to Greenland, Denmark and Europe, then realised I have nothing useful to add, so I pressed Delete. Instead, here's a picture I took of a bridge because it had splendid umlauts.

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                          #69

                          @CiaraNi Me, too, regarding "nothing useful to add" — no matter how horrified I am.

                          Very cool umlauts!

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                          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                            It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                            #70

                            @CiaraNi Nor in the French ë/ï/ü – the trema (l’accent tréma)

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                            • mlazz@aus.socialM mlazz@aus.social

                              @tml @CiaraNi @hanscees

                              And let's not forget that sometimes what looks like an umlaut is actually a diaeresis.
                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic)

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                              #71

                              @mlazz @tml @CiaraNi why the name that reminds me of very thin stuff coming out of a colon. But we call this trema in Dutch
                              geëvenaard

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                              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                                #72

                                @CiaraNi

                                It would be impossible to type on a US keyboard, not to talk about the crime known as 7-bit ASCII.

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                                • rvedotrc@tech.lgbtR rvedotrc@tech.lgbt

                                  @CiaraNi

                                  acuté
                                  gràve
                                  circûmflex
                                  çedilla

                                  I see what you mean, ümlaut would work so much better

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                                  #73

                                  @rvedotrc @CiaraNi There’s an actual haček in the word haček! (But that’s the Czech name for the diacritic, I think it’s called caron in English)

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                                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                    @shivers @psneeze I always liked the fact that fada just means 'long', the plain practicality of it. I didn't know 'umlaut' has a similar trait. 'About sound'. That was a pleasing new-to-me thing to learn. GRMA

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                                    #74

                                    @CiaraNi @shivers @psneeze Greetings from Germany!
                                    It is not "about sound", rather "around sound" as in "something is around the sound" (not as in "surround sound", sadly).

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                                    • id1om@mastodonapp.ukI id1om@mastodonapp.uk

                                      @CiaraNi
                                      cedilla would like a word.

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                                      #75

                                      @id1om I would like to have a word with these diacriticless diacritics

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                                      • christinemalec@mstdn.caC christinemalec@mstdn.ca

                                        @CiaraNi I'm studying an 18th century German musician named Friedrich Dulon. I'm monolingual, and the U in his name has one, and I have no idea what it means for pronunciation.

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                                        #76

                                        @ChristineMalec My school German hangs on in snippets, but the pronunciation difference with or without an umlaut is long gone from my brain, so I don't know either. Maybe somebody else can help us here.

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                                        • mlazz@aus.socialM mlazz@aus.social

                                          @tml @CiaraNi @hanscees

                                          And let's not forget that sometimes what looks like an umlaut is actually a diaeresis.
                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic)

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                                          #77

                                          @mlazz @tml @hanscees Yes, diaeresis - the darling of the New Yorker

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