Keep these monstrosities off our roads 🙅‍♂️

[cellomomoncars@mastodon.social]

@uint8_t @ghard @simon_brooke @fj

So far, zero emission vehicles have just about zero tax in NL, at sale. I don't know about the road tax.

[permanent_dinner@mstdn.party]

@fj I'm an American who lives in the woods. Usually this kind of truck's target market. I'd much rather have something like an aussie ute or toyota hilux.

[foobarsoft@mastodon.social]

@sanzky @fj As an American the ranger is tiny. There are bigger trucks than the F-150. But even compared to that it’s tiny.

I’m NOT defending it. I want these monstrosities off our roads so I can see again and not feel like I’m going to be crushed by buildings.

Hold strong.

[notecharlie@social.bigcavemaps.com]

@fj the truly crazy thing to me is that most of these massive vehicles have a negligible fuel economy penalty compared to smaller trucks. 15-20mpg (~12 L/100km) is pretty much universal across the board. My 1983 ford ranger gets that. A brand new F150 gets that. And when you start looking at compact SUVs and crossovers, it doesn't get much better. So there's no incentive to get a "less capable" vehicle, and won't be until gas is $8/gal.

[threesigma@mastodon.online]

@MichaelPorter @reloadedhead @richlv @fj
I still feel that the 80s decision to classify SUVs as light vehicles was a big step down that slippery slope.

[ryanteck@fosstodon.org]

@fj American trucks are bloody massive but comparing it to a Twingo from 1998 is a little disingenuous.

The three trucks also mentioned (F-150, Silverado and 1500) are also much smaller than the F-350 you used too.

More realistic comparison, Dacia Sandero (apparently best selling car in EU) vs Silverado.

Still massive in comparison, but not the "wow it's gigantic" in comparison either.

[threesigma@mastodon.online]

@MichaelPorter @reloadedhead @richlv @fj (article paywalled)

[aloxe@mast.eu.org]

@fj Nice app. I always wanted to know how far Europe is copying USA.

[michaelporter@ottawa.place]

@ThreeSigma @reloadedhead @richlv @fj Odd, I didn't have trouble reading it (not a subscriber). Do they have a monthly limit that you ran into, maybe?

[jerrej@mastodon.social]

@mikaeleiman @disco3000

They made seven/eight seat yet still smallish "station wagons" sixty years ago and I still see plenty of that format driving around now. Who is supposedly stopping anyone building those now, exactly?

[martinlentink@mastodon.social]

@reloadedhead @fj I agree. We don't want them.

So that's decided...

[emc2@indieweb.social]

@fj ban the fuck out of them. They're a plague.

[starlily@mastodon.social]

@passwordsarehard4 @mwyman @fj The average drivers of these pavement princesses are not usually jerks with fuck you money. There's very few of those, really.

[jackmexa4@mastodon.social]

@fj

Now with humans!

[heathermj@mastodon.social]

@fj
"What a big car you have!"
"All the better to kill you with!"
With apologies to little red riding hood

[andyoneil@social.vivaldi.net]

@fj And out of our car parks

[leviticoh@poliverso.org]

@reloadedhead @fj
maybe because the ones most endangered are not the ones driving such vehicles?

[ravelin@mindly.social]

@fj I wish we could keep them off of US roads too...

[ericlawton@kolektiva.social]

@fj

Good luck.

Canadian roads are a lot less safe since they got filled with these monsters, and the more there are, the more people want them because if you're in a small car you are more likely to get crushed by one, and the people who drive them like to intimidate people in smaller cars and can't see small people in parking lots.

[uint8_t@chaos.social]

@CelloMomOnCars @ghard @simon_brooke @fj Germany has BEV motor vehicle tax set to 0% until 2030, I think NL is similar