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Every time I decide to post a thread to Mastodon, I'm hit with a new wave of mansplaining.

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  • zdl@mstdn.socialZ zdl@mstdn.social

    @codinghorror @Em0nM4stodon @mellifluousbox @renchap

    🤷‍♀️

    There's a list of safety features that I've seen recommended and rejected as long as my arm. Some of them even had people submitting the actual code to implement it, only to get it rejected.

    The Mastodon devs are just not interested in marginalized peoples. This is literally why Blacksky exists instead of Black Mastodon.

    Perhaps, if you're a substantial funder, you could swing a bit of that funding weight around and get them to work?

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    #67

    @ZDL @codinghorror @Em0nM4stodon @mellifluousbox @renchap

    I suspect there's a fair amount of plumbing work that needs to be done to support some of these features.

    Just because someone submits some code doesn't make its inclusion automatic. If they have a specific bigger picture design in mind they're working towards, having a bolt on alternative that doesn't fit could make the job much harder down the line.

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    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

      RE: https://dair-community.social/@emilymbender/110906329010147244

      Every time I decide to post a thread to Mastodon, I'm hit with a new wave of mansplaining. What is it with the culture here? Why do all of these guys think it's so important to share their deep insights in my mentions when they can just post on their own feed? FFS.

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      #68

      @emilymbender people get so smug about masto being better than bsky or twitter. that may be. but the mansplaining is far worse here

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      • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

        RE: https://dair-community.social/@emilymbender/110906329010147244

        Every time I decide to post a thread to Mastodon, I'm hit with a new wave of mansplaining. What is it with the culture here? Why do all of these guys think it's so important to share their deep insights in my mentions when they can just post on their own feed? FFS.

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        #69

        @emilymbender There should really be an option that you can say 'only allow people I'm following or people in my mastodon network to reply'

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        • elasticsoul@mastodon.socialE elasticsoul@mastodon.social

          @emilymbender

          Speaking as someone who would like to help, it seems Mastodon has a hole here. I believe it was @mekkaokereke who pointed out that shitty people say shitty (racist) things in his replies, but people like me never see them because these trolls tag their replies as 'Only for my followers.'

          Many people would happily counter this sort of thing, but we never see it.

          Suggestions?

          @Gargron

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          #70

          @elasticsoul @emilymbender @mekkaokereke @Gargron my suggestion is to start calling the things with their name and move from the big tech culture of centralization to the grassroots culture of digital communities. There you can’t speak of “Mastodon” like you speak of Twitter, as a monolithic entity with its own culture, that #Mastodon is a software used by thousands of communities with thousands of policies and “local cultures”.

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          • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

            RE: https://dair-community.social/@emilymbender/110906329010147244

            Every time I decide to post a thread to Mastodon, I'm hit with a new wave of mansplaining. What is it with the culture here? Why do all of these guys think it's so important to share their deep insights in my mentions when they can just post on their own feed? FFS.

            cstross@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #71

            @emilymbender I don't think it's just you: my experience of Mastodon is that it can be stereotyped as mansplaining German linux nerds (with a secondary population of queer trans furry sysadmins).

            At least we don't seem to have any Nazi billionaires (except for that Trump Guy running his own fork called truth.something) …

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            • jesuisatire@social.tchncs.deJ jesuisatire@social.tchncs.de

              @emilymbender

              .. just use twitter ..

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              #72

              @jesuisatire
              This is the second time in this thread you have told Prof Bender she is unwelcome on this platform. Reported you and blocked your account.
              @emilymbender

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              • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                RE: https://dair-community.social/@emilymbender/110906329010147244

                Every time I decide to post a thread to Mastodon, I'm hit with a new wave of mansplaining. What is it with the culture here? Why do all of these guys think it's so important to share their deep insights in my mentions when they can just post on their own feed? FFS.

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                #73

                @Gargron I wonder if the automatic mentioning fill out could be turned off.
                There are so often so many comments who are not even meant to be directed to the original author of a toot. Or they were written with not really believing it really reaches the person addressed (as it is on other networks).
                But as the author got filled out without any questioning people believe it should be this way and leave it there not thinking how annoying it is to be mentioned without really being addressed.
                So could you please turn off the auto-fill-mentioning?
                So we get a healthier selection of toots that are really for us on purpose? Because we are only addressed if people really want to address us?
                it's still possible to look at all the comments on purpose anyway...

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                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                  @emilymbender I don't think it's just you: my experience of Mastodon is that it can be stereotyped as mansplaining German linux nerds (with a secondary population of queer trans furry sysadmins).

                  At least we don't seem to have any Nazi billionaires (except for that Trump Guy running his own fork called truth.something) …

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                  #74

                  @cstross @emilymbender It's depressing to see how regularly they come out of the woodwork to assert their right to mansplain.

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                  • toolbear@tech.lgbtT toolbear@tech.lgbt

                    @jesuisatire
                    This is the second time in this thread you have told Prof Bender she is unwelcome on this platform. Reported you and blocked your account.
                    @emilymbender

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                    #75

                    @toolbear
                    social.tchncs.de/@jesuisatire/…

                    @jesuisatire

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                    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                      RE: https://dair-community.social/@emilymbender/110906329010147244

                      Every time I decide to post a thread to Mastodon, I'm hit with a new wave of mansplaining. What is it with the culture here? Why do all of these guys think it's so important to share their deep insights in my mentions when they can just post on their own feed? FFS.

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                      #76

                      @emilymbender that's sad. I appreciate your posts and insights, please continue sharing them here.

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                      • jesuisatire@social.tchncs.deJ jesuisatire@social.tchncs.de

                        @emilymbender

                        .. just use twitter ..

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                        #77

                        @jesuisatire Who do you think you are? Sit down and stop trying to kick people off of the platform. And in general, be better.

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                        • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                          @lienrag and yet the posts are not actually constructive contributions but often explaining things back to me as if I haven't been writing about them for years.

                          But do go on: how does mansplaining work again? 🙄

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                          #78

                          @emilymbender @lienrag I was thinking I have often found it less mansplainy than others networks then I looked at your area of expertise and thought oooohhhh yeah that's going to be rough around here. ❤️

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                          • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                            RE: https://dair-community.social/@emilymbender/110906329010147244

                            Every time I decide to post a thread to Mastodon, I'm hit with a new wave of mansplaining. What is it with the culture here? Why do all of these guys think it's so important to share their deep insights in my mentions when they can just post on their own feed? FFS.

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                            #79

                            @emilymbender I absolutely adore threads like this! I ban everyone in them -- both the mansplainers and the ones complaining about mansplaining

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                            • atanasoff@mastodon.socialA atanasoff@mastodon.social

                              @ZDL @emilymbender did they started their replies with "let me explain to you because you have a vagina" or you just assumed that?

                              I previously scrolled trough that post, I cannot go back now because the Professor has blocked me, but people were just sharing their own experiences, that's all.

                              If you are an expert in an area doesn't mean that other people cannot share an experience or have an opinion in the area.

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                              #80

                              @atanasoff Jesus Christ. What is your problem? @ZDL

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                              • lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.netL lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net

                                @emilymbender

                                I didn't see the exact posts you were referring to but so I may be wrong, but generally the idea of posting in response to someone is to produce a conversation, which many consider to be the goal of social medias.

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                                #81

                                @lienrag my friend, allow me to remark on two aspects of your post:

                                1) Not every post needs a response, and not every response is useful
                                2) “media” is already plural

                                @emilymbender

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                                • dnkboston@apobangpo.spaceD dnkboston@apobangpo.space

                                  @jesuisatire Who do you think you are? Sit down and stop trying to kick people off of the platform. And in general, be better.

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                                  #82

                                  @dnkboston

                                  https://social.tchncs.de/@jesuisatire/117312177221697892

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                                  • jesuisatire@social.tchncs.deJ jesuisatire@social.tchncs.de

                                    @dnkboston

                                    https://social.tchncs.de/@jesuisatire/117312177221697892

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                                    #83

                                    @jesuisatire I saw this. Stop doubling down on the mansplaining.

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