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No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

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  • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

    No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

    #AI #browser #technology #Google

    ahau@tribe.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #31

    @Vivaldi One way or another, I will add my own team of small LLMs to any browsers. Whether your browser does or does not have AI in it, it will make no difference. I will replace the desktop of any OS using my AI centric browser app using a small team of small LLM running on llama.cpp and a bunch of MCP servers to make any browser "smart". A browser becomes a UI for my AI apps. No one can act against a big tidal wave.

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    • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

      No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

      #AI #browser #technology #Google

      gokushrm@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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      #32

      @Vivaldi make it open source. I'll definitely switch ✌️

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

        this was an early design decision when things were less creepy

        it's not the end of the world

        and perhaps vivaldi can transition, but it's a huge ask, and you know it

        in the meantime stop being such a douchebag and show some appreciation for the post above

        instead of immediately launching into masturbating your ego over this endless endless "bUt I wAnT pErFeCt" that infests social media, and means absolutely nothing, this lowest common denominator empty whining

        h0w25@hachyderm.ioH This user is from outside of this forum
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        #33

        @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi his comment is still valid and you shouldn't attack him.

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        • ahau@tribe.netA ahau@tribe.net

          @Vivaldi One way or another, I will add my own team of small LLMs to any browsers. Whether your browser does or does not have AI in it, it will make no difference. I will replace the desktop of any OS using my AI centric browser app using a small team of small LLM running on llama.cpp and a bunch of MCP servers to make any browser "smart". A browser becomes a UI for my AI apps. No one can act against a big tidal wave.

          artharg@mastodon.nlA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #34

          @ahau @Vivaldi That is a fitting metaphor: AI as a big tidal wave.

          The proper response to big tidal waves is to seek higher ground and wait until the waters recede. Then you clean up the filth and debris that it has left everywhere and repair or rebuild what was damaged. In the end, you get to terms with the fact that some things and some people were irretrievably lost, and that some of the landscape has changed permanently.

          I’m quite sure that the current AI craze will go somewhat like that.

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          • h0w25@hachyderm.ioH h0w25@hachyderm.io

            @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi his comment is still valid and you shouldn't attack him.

            benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #35

            @H0W25 @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

            his comment is utterly invalid

            perfectionism is for immature losers

            and i will attack him for it, because it's the dreariest lamest shit. it's the toilet of social media. whiny shitbags endlessly complaining because we haven't achieved purity. never a kind word for good progress, good effort, positive statements

            i despise these entitled karens, and they are legion

            anything else i can help you with today?

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            • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

              @Vivaldi That's good to heard you won't cave into AI like the other browsers.

              What about my Vivaldi cat ear logo change? I think it would be a hit!! :3

              terryenglish@blob.catT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #36
              @catsalad @Vivaldi
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              • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                #AI #browser #technology #Google

                kien@mastodon.onlineK This user is from outside of this forum
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                #37

                @Vivaldi Vivaldi needs to remove the api exposing battery level

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                • wafflesies@infosec.exchangeW wafflesies@infosec.exchange

                  @Vivaldi now if your browser code was stable and relatively bug free we could talk about switching from brave
                  I'm not usually a free software extremist but outsourcing development to the community may make Vivaldi competitive with the likes of Firefox and brave

                  benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #38

                  @wafflesies @Vivaldi

                  is Brave still full of crypto shit?

                  that's a bigger turn off for me

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                  • cavyherd@wandering.shopC cavyherd@wandering.shop

                    @Petesmom @Vivaldi

                    Seconded.

                    runoutgroover@cloudisland.nzR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #39

                    @cavyherd @Petesmom @Vivaldi Thirded

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                    • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                      No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                      #AI #browser #technology #Google

                      iveyline@mastodon.nzI This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #40

                      @Vivaldi Excellent. Must try it out.

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @H0W25 @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

                        his comment is utterly invalid

                        perfectionism is for immature losers

                        and i will attack him for it, because it's the dreariest lamest shit. it's the toilet of social media. whiny shitbags endlessly complaining because we haven't achieved purity. never a kind word for good progress, good effort, positive statements

                        i despise these entitled karens, and they are legion

                        anything else i can help you with today?

                        h0w25@hachyderm.ioH This user is from outside of this forum
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                        h0w25@hachyderm.io
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                        #41

                        @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi You can help the community by stopping insulting random people around the fediverse. That behavior can look pretty toxic. If someone is doing it badly, insulting them doesn't make you better.

                        benroyce@mastodon.socialB 1 Reply Last reply
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                        • h0w25@hachyderm.ioH h0w25@hachyderm.io

                          @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi You can help the community by stopping insulting random people around the fediverse. That behavior can look pretty toxic. If someone is doing it badly, insulting them doesn't make you better.

                          benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #42

                          @H0W25 @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

                          i'm calling out their toxicity

                          "no, you!" is not the genius argument you think it is my best friend

                          i will certainly not stop calling out this personality disorder of "demand perfect, never be supportive of good work and positive effort" whiny useless shit

                          you certainly do not have to like that

                          you are free to mute, block, ignore, etc to your heart's desire

                          and so welcome to mastodon, and enjoy your stay

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                          • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                            No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                            #AI #browser #technology #Google

                            mespique@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #43

                            @Vivaldi

                            I'm only here for Four Seasons jokes.

                            so far I've seen none.

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @H0W25 @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

                              i'm calling out their toxicity

                              "no, you!" is not the genius argument you think it is my best friend

                              i will certainly not stop calling out this personality disorder of "demand perfect, never be supportive of good work and positive effort" whiny useless shit

                              you certainly do not have to like that

                              you are free to mute, block, ignore, etc to your heart's desire

                              and so welcome to mastodon, and enjoy your stay

                              h0w25@hachyderm.ioH This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #44

                              @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi That person just asked to change their browser engine to something other than Chromium. I don't agree at all, but it's an opinion, while you are attacking his opinion like we were on Twitter. We don't do that here, and yeah, I can block and mute you, as many people can and will do if you keep up this behavior. Welcome to the fediverse also, but stop being so toxic and telling people to just block/mute you. Be constructive and positive. Thanks.

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                              • h0w25@hachyderm.ioH h0w25@hachyderm.io

                                @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi That person just asked to change their browser engine to something other than Chromium. I don't agree at all, but it's an opinion, while you are attacking his opinion like we were on Twitter. We don't do that here, and yeah, I can block and mute you, as many people can and will do if you keep up this behavior. Welcome to the fediverse also, but stop being so toxic and telling people to just block/mute you. Be constructive and positive. Thanks.

                                benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #45

                                @H0W25 @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

                                in this life

                                we are tolerant, except to the intolerant

                                we are sensitive, except to the insensitive

                                we are nonviolent, except to the violent

                                etc

                                and we are not toxic, except to the toxic

                                if you are not familiar with the Vivaldi account, or other major accounts, they attract this sort of endless pit of pathetic reply guys: they fill your screen with harsh whiny demands for perfection

                                never any appreciation

                                they are toxic shit

                                and i will call them out on it

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                                • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                  No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                                  #AI #browser #technology #Google

                                  phabrizio@social.vivaldi.netP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #46

                                  @Vivaldi Grazie.

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                                  • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

                                    @Vivaldi That's good to heard you won't cave into AI like the other browsers.

                                    What about my Vivaldi cat ear logo change? I think it would be a hit!! :3

                                    flipper@mastodonapp.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #47

                                    @catsalad @Vivaldi CatSalad browser when?

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                                    • h0w25@hachyderm.ioH h0w25@hachyderm.io

                                      @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi That person just asked to change their browser engine to something other than Chromium. I don't agree at all, but it's an opinion, while you are attacking his opinion like we were on Twitter. We don't do that here, and yeah, I can block and mute you, as many people can and will do if you keep up this behavior. Welcome to the fediverse also, but stop being so toxic and telling people to just block/mute you. Be constructive and positive. Thanks.

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                                      #48

                                      @H0W25 @Vivaldi @YurkshireLad @benroyce@mastodon.social if your comments there are at BenRoyce (I can’t see him coz he’s blocked me and a billion others who don’t like his American Supremacist arrogance) he’s got long history of insult and profound ignorance.

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                                      • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                        No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                                        #AI #browser #technology #Google

                                        appassionato@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #49

                                        @Vivaldi

                                        "Using an AI to browse for you is like paying a robot to go out to dinner with your friends and give you a text summary of the evening when it gets home."

                                        That dinner-summary analogy hits the nail on the head. The corporate push for AI isn't about saving you time; it's about killing your curiosity so they can control the bottleneck of what you see and what you don't.

                                        #AI
                                        #browsers
                                        #Vivaldi

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                                        • appassionato@mastodon.socialA appassionato@mastodon.social

                                          @Vivaldi

                                          "Using an AI to browse for you is like paying a robot to go out to dinner with your friends and give you a text summary of the evening when it gets home."

                                          That dinner-summary analogy hits the nail on the head. The corporate push for AI isn't about saving you time; it's about killing your curiosity so they can control the bottleneck of what you see and what you don't.

                                          #AI
                                          #browsers
                                          #Vivaldi

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                                          #50

                                          @Vivaldi
                                          2/
                                          Without human exploration, the diversity of the web dies. But capitalism demands we replace active exploration with inactive spectatorship, turning users into passive consumers of synthesized noise.

                                          They are industrialized tools built to monetize convenience by destroying human agency. It’s a relief to see at least one browser team choosing humans over the investor hype cycle.

                                          #AI
                                          #LLM
                                          #browsers
                                          #Vivaldi

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