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No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

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  • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

    No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

    #AI #browser #technology #Google

    gudenau@hachyderm.ioG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #23

    @Vivaldi I'll try it out if it stops using Chrome as a base, but it's good to see that some browsers aren't jumping on this bandwagon of doom.

    vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV 1 Reply Last reply
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    • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

      No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

      #AI #browser #technology #Google

      netzblockierer@tech.lgbtN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #24

      @Vivaldi so basically like @torproject / Tor Browser since launch…

      #Tor #TorBrowser

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      • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

        No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

        #AI #browser #technology #Google

        wafflesies@infosec.exchangeW This user is from outside of this forum
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        #25

        @Vivaldi now if your browser code was stable and relatively bug free we could talk about switching from brave
        I'm not usually a free software extremist but outsourcing development to the community may make Vivaldi competitive with the likes of Firefox and brave

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        • petesmom@kolektiva.socialP petesmom@kolektiva.social

          @Vivaldi
          Please make noai.duckduckgo a default search engine choice. I have to manually switch DDG every time I use it.

          solitha@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #26

          @Petesmom You can make it the default search engine, instead of having to manually switch every time.

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          • jgg@qoto.orgJ jgg@qoto.org

            @Vivaldi

            Kudos for doing such an amazing job.

            I wish we were to have a truly independent search engine, free and with no AI nonsense.

            We can't have a web in our terms when the big search engines are getting us less and less genuine results each day, even these are buried by AI nonsense, and are soon to be scrapped.

            intangiblesloth@mastodon.worldI This user is from outside of this forum
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            #27

            @jgg @Vivaldi noai.duckduckgo.com

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            • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

              No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

              #AI #browser #technology #Google

              cassandravert@indieweb.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              #28

              And we appreciate it.

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              • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                #AI #browser #technology #Google

                csolisr@hub.azkware.netC This user is from outside of this forum
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                #29
                I'd probably switch to you as soon as you stopped being proprietary software. Can't trust your browser to not be leaking data elsewhere until we can get proper source code to analyze it
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                • petesmom@kolektiva.socialP petesmom@kolektiva.social

                  @Vivaldi
                  Please make noai.duckduckgo a default search engine choice. I have to manually switch DDG every time I use it.

                  too_little_caffeine@dotnet.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #30

                  @Petesmom @Vivaldi Add it yourself.

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                  • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                    No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                    #AI #browser #technology #Google

                    ahau@tribe.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #31

                    @Vivaldi One way or another, I will add my own team of small LLMs to any browsers. Whether your browser does or does not have AI in it, it will make no difference. I will replace the desktop of any OS using my AI centric browser app using a small team of small LLM running on llama.cpp and a bunch of MCP servers to make any browser "smart". A browser becomes a UI for my AI apps. No one can act against a big tidal wave.

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                    • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                      No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                      #AI #browser #technology #Google

                      gokushrm@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #32

                      @Vivaldi make it open source. I'll definitely switch ✌️

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

                        this was an early design decision when things were less creepy

                        it's not the end of the world

                        and perhaps vivaldi can transition, but it's a huge ask, and you know it

                        in the meantime stop being such a douchebag and show some appreciation for the post above

                        instead of immediately launching into masturbating your ego over this endless endless "bUt I wAnT pErFeCt" that infests social media, and means absolutely nothing, this lowest common denominator empty whining

                        h0w25@hachyderm.ioH This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #33

                        @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi his comment is still valid and you shouldn't attack him.

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                        • ahau@tribe.netA ahau@tribe.net

                          @Vivaldi One way or another, I will add my own team of small LLMs to any browsers. Whether your browser does or does not have AI in it, it will make no difference. I will replace the desktop of any OS using my AI centric browser app using a small team of small LLM running on llama.cpp and a bunch of MCP servers to make any browser "smart". A browser becomes a UI for my AI apps. No one can act against a big tidal wave.

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                          #34

                          @ahau @Vivaldi That is a fitting metaphor: AI as a big tidal wave.

                          The proper response to big tidal waves is to seek higher ground and wait until the waters recede. Then you clean up the filth and debris that it has left everywhere and repair or rebuild what was damaged. In the end, you get to terms with the fact that some things and some people were irretrievably lost, and that some of the landscape has changed permanently.

                          I’m quite sure that the current AI craze will go somewhat like that.

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                          • h0w25@hachyderm.ioH h0w25@hachyderm.io

                            @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi his comment is still valid and you shouldn't attack him.

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                            #35

                            @H0W25 @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

                            his comment is utterly invalid

                            perfectionism is for immature losers

                            and i will attack him for it, because it's the dreariest lamest shit. it's the toilet of social media. whiny shitbags endlessly complaining because we haven't achieved purity. never a kind word for good progress, good effort, positive statements

                            i despise these entitled karens, and they are legion

                            anything else i can help you with today?

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                            • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

                              @Vivaldi That's good to heard you won't cave into AI like the other browsers.

                              What about my Vivaldi cat ear logo change? I think it would be a hit!! :3

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                              #36
                              @catsalad @Vivaldi
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                              • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                                #AI #browser #technology #Google

                                kien@mastodon.onlineK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #37

                                @Vivaldi Vivaldi needs to remove the api exposing battery level

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                                • wafflesies@infosec.exchangeW wafflesies@infosec.exchange

                                  @Vivaldi now if your browser code was stable and relatively bug free we could talk about switching from brave
                                  I'm not usually a free software extremist but outsourcing development to the community may make Vivaldi competitive with the likes of Firefox and brave

                                  benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #38

                                  @wafflesies @Vivaldi

                                  is Brave still full of crypto shit?

                                  that's a bigger turn off for me

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                                  • cavyherd@wandering.shopC cavyherd@wandering.shop

                                    @Petesmom @Vivaldi

                                    Seconded.

                                    runoutgroover@cloudisland.nzR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #39

                                    @cavyherd @Petesmom @Vivaldi Thirded

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                                    • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                      No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                                      #AI #browser #technology #Google

                                      iveyline@mastodon.nzI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #40

                                      @Vivaldi Excellent. Must try it out.

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @H0W25 @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

                                        his comment is utterly invalid

                                        perfectionism is for immature losers

                                        and i will attack him for it, because it's the dreariest lamest shit. it's the toilet of social media. whiny shitbags endlessly complaining because we haven't achieved purity. never a kind word for good progress, good effort, positive statements

                                        i despise these entitled karens, and they are legion

                                        anything else i can help you with today?

                                        h0w25@hachyderm.ioH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #41

                                        @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi You can help the community by stopping insulting random people around the fediverse. That behavior can look pretty toxic. If someone is doing it badly, insulting them doesn't make you better.

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                                        • h0w25@hachyderm.ioH h0w25@hachyderm.io

                                          @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi You can help the community by stopping insulting random people around the fediverse. That behavior can look pretty toxic. If someone is doing it badly, insulting them doesn't make you better.

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                                          #42

                                          @H0W25 @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

                                          i'm calling out their toxicity

                                          "no, you!" is not the genius argument you think it is my best friend

                                          i will certainly not stop calling out this personality disorder of "demand perfect, never be supportive of good work and positive effort" whiny useless shit

                                          you certainly do not have to like that

                                          you are free to mute, block, ignore, etc to your heart's desire

                                          and so welcome to mastodon, and enjoy your stay

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