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One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @pixelate @emma @cwebber

    i heard an interview about people using AI to reconstruct their voices lost to cancer/ injury/ etc with AI

    https://www.npr.org/2025/07/22/nx-s1-5449081/people-who-have-lost-their-voices-are-using-ai-technology-to-regain-them

    i also think things like protein folding/ cosmology/ etc can benefit from AI

    there are valid uses for AI

    there are also *invalid* uses for AI

    and we have a right to voice that, without confusing the topic with valid uses for AI

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    #48

    @benroyce @pixelate @emma @cwebber The valid uses for AI are very seldom chatbot-based.

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    • ahltorp@mastodon.nuA ahltorp@mastodon.nu

      @benroyce @pixelate @emma @cwebber The valid uses for AI are very seldom chatbot-based.

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      #49

      @ahltorp

      The phrase "valid uses" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.

      @benroyce@mastodon.social @pixelate @cwebber

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      • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

        @pinhman

        AI is not profitable. The companies lose money each time their product is used.

        The only people making money on this is the financial services sector trading stock & issuing huge loans on "possible, perhaps, maybe" future revenue AND the fossil fuel industry powering gas generators for data centers.

        The product is loathed and user acceptance doesn't match the hype.

        What sane business makes itself dependent on a supplier or vendor at high risk of going bankrupt?

        @cwebber

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        #50

        @Npars01
        Last I heard, nvidia were making off like bandits, but otherwise...
        @pinhman @cwebber

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        • aequitas@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aequitas@mastodon.gamedev.place

          @cwebber Yup. The human is now the "accountability sink". Someone to blame when the AI fucks something up.

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          #51

          @Aequitas @cwebber I myself am searching for a non-gendered alternative to "whipping boy", because that's the most graphic term for the position.

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @pixelate @emma @cwebber

            i heard an interview about people using AI to reconstruct their voices lost to cancer/ injury/ etc with AI

            https://www.npr.org/2025/07/22/nx-s1-5449081/people-who-have-lost-their-voices-are-using-ai-technology-to-regain-them

            i also think things like protein folding/ cosmology/ etc can benefit from AI

            there are valid uses for AI

            there are also *invalid* uses for AI

            and we have a right to voice that, without confusing the topic with valid uses for AI

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            #52

            @benroyce @pixelate @emma @cwebber i’m not going to be surprised if once the bubble pops all of the useful tools that they tried bundling into one package and call it “AI“, becomes their own individual tools.

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              @cwebber "you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked" is the best description of modern software engineering I've read in a while.

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              #53

              @alice @cwebber omg I just cackled

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              • emma@orbital.horseE emma@orbital.horse

                @ahltorp

                The phrase "valid uses" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.

                @benroyce@mastodon.social @pixelate @cwebber

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                #54

                @emma @ahltorp @cwebber The phrase heavy lifting is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.

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                  #55

                  @Dangerous_beans @thegrumpyenby @cwebber You don't believe the United Nations? What's wrong with *you*? Typical sighted person. Do the work. https://www.un.org/esa/socdev/enable/comp500.htm

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                  • pixelate@tweesecake.socialP pixelate@tweesecake.social

                    @emma @ahltorp @cwebber The phrase heavy lifting is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.

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                    #56

                    @pixelate @emma @ahltorp @cwebber

                    Devin:

                    nobody has a problem with the disabled community using AI

                    i celebrate those uses. we celebrate those uses

                    our complaints are about all the uses of AI that harm society

                    you know that. you understand that difference

                    so there is no need to fake a conflict that does not exist

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                      #57

                      @Dangerous_beans @thegrumpyenby @cwebber My screen reader read it, thank you.

                      > Whereas the concept of a special regime for certain groups has been developed during the last few years by the UN the human rights and fundamental freedoms of marginalized and vulnerable people remain vastly underserved. Persons with disabilities are often affected by this lack of protection, as many of them suffer double or multiple discrimination, due to their disability, their age and social status, for instance.

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @pixelate @emma @ahltorp @cwebber

                        Devin:

                        nobody has a problem with the disabled community using AI

                        i celebrate those uses. we celebrate those uses

                        our complaints are about all the uses of AI that harm society

                        you know that. you understand that difference

                        so there is no need to fake a conflict that does not exist

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                        #58

                        @benroyce @emma @ahltorp @cwebber Did you read the part where I simply commented on how I use AI, and some one came at me for it?

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                        • pixelate@tweesecake.socialP pixelate@tweesecake.social

                          @benroyce @emma @ahltorp @cwebber Did you read the part where I simply commented on how I use AI, and some one came at me for it?

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                          #59

                          @pixelate @emma @ahltorp @cwebber

                          what i saw was you defending your use of AI, and not indicating that you do that because you are disabled

                          after their remark, *then* you indicated that

                          that's miscommunication, not malice

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @pixelate @emma @ahltorp @cwebber

                            what i saw was you defending your use of AI, and not indicating that you do that because you are disabled

                            after their remark, *then* you indicated that

                            that's miscommunication, not malice

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                            #60

                            @benroyce @emma @ahltorp @cwebber Wait, are you not seeing the :blind: in my display name?

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                            • pixelate@tweesecake.socialP pixelate@tweesecake.social

                              @benroyce @emma @ahltorp @cwebber Wait, are you not seeing the :blind: in my display name?

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                              #61

                              @pixelate @emma @ahltorp @cwebber

                              yes

                              and you did not in your initial remark indicate you being blind was the reason for your AI use

                              "but that's obvious!"

                              ok. but can we at least say the initial conflict was about defending AI? and that people dislike that? and that if they put in the effort, they might be able to deduce why you are saying what you are saying. but this means the disagreement is simply about miscommunication and not malice?

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @pixelate @emma @ahltorp @cwebber

                                yes

                                and you did not in your initial remark indicate you being blind was the reason for your AI use

                                "but that's obvious!"

                                ok. but can we at least say the initial conflict was about defending AI? and that people dislike that? and that if they put in the effort, they might be able to deduce why you are saying what you are saying. but this means the disagreement is simply about miscommunication and not malice?

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                                #62

                                @benroyce @emma @ahltorp @cwebber Wait that's not obvious? Okay I think this is enough internet for the day, I'm gonna play Magic the Gathering Arena or something. Thank goodness for accessibility mods.

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                                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                  @cwebber "you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked" is the best description of modern software engineering I've read in a while.

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                                  #63

                                  @alice @cwebber If that ever became my job I would just walk away and and let Claude bareback.

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                                  • pixelate@tweesecake.socialP pixelate@tweesecake.social

                                    @benroyce @emma @ahltorp @cwebber Wait that's not obvious? Okay I think this is enough internet for the day, I'm gonna play Magic the Gathering Arena or something. Thank goodness for accessibility mods.

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                                    #64

                                    @pixelate @emma @ahltorp @cwebber

                                    all i am saying is that the world is a nicer place when you first look to see if there is miscommunication involved first, before seeing malice. there is also malice in the world, of course. but again, the point is to avoid agita

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                                    • lrhodes@merveilles.townL lrhodes@merveilles.town

                                      @cwebber Now if they could extrapolate from this to the fact that Reddit has a $60 million deal to let Google train on user submissions…

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                                      #65

                                      @lrhodes @cwebber

                                      it's far worse than that

                                      look at the age of this sub:

                                      https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditSimulator/

                                      11 years

                                      there are improved models:

                                      https://old.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/

                                      7 years

                                      #reddit is a pioneer in fake #bot engagement

                                      the founders of reddit are on record saying 99% of the first userbase/ comments of reddit were all fakes:

                                      https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/reddit-faked-its-first-users-resurfaced-video-shows-co-founder-alexis-ohanian-admitting-99-of-early-submissions-were-fabricated/articleshow/119263428.cms

                                      reddit is full of bots. a lot of it is fake

                                      enjoy reddit. i do

                                      but know that you are in a sea of markov chain chatbots -> #GPT

                                      and always have been

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                                      • indigoparadox@mastodon.socialI indigoparadox@mastodon.social

                                        @cwebber I really maintain LLMs are like the microwave. There are some narrow specific uses where it's good, but holy shit we're still in the "True Believers trying to make Thanksgiving dinner with them" phase.

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                                        #66

                                        @indigoparadox @cwebber This is it, this is the take. This.

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                                        • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                                          @pinhman

                                          AI is not profitable. The companies lose money each time their product is used.

                                          The only people making money on this is the financial services sector trading stock & issuing huge loans on "possible, perhaps, maybe" future revenue AND the fossil fuel industry powering gas generators for data centers.

                                          The product is loathed and user acceptance doesn't match the hype.

                                          What sane business makes itself dependent on a supplier or vendor at high risk of going bankrupt?

                                          @cwebber

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                                          #67

                                          @Npars01 @cwebber An industry relying on potential bankruptcy? See Canadian agriculture.

                                          It’s gone from family farms that watched out and supported each other, to little corporate agricultural operations waiting for nearby farms to fail, to allow their expansion.

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