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  3. One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/

One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @pixelate @emma @cwebber

    i heard an interview about people using AI to reconstruct their voices lost to cancer/ injury/ etc with AI

    https://www.npr.org/2025/07/22/nx-s1-5449081/people-who-have-lost-their-voices-are-using-ai-technology-to-regain-them

    i also think things like protein folding/ cosmology/ etc can benefit from AI

    there are valid uses for AI

    there are also *invalid* uses for AI

    and we have a right to voice that, without confusing the topic with valid uses for AI

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    #52

    @benroyce @pixelate @emma @cwebber i’m not going to be surprised if once the bubble pops all of the useful tools that they tried bundling into one package and call it “AI“, becomes their own individual tools.

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    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

      @cwebber "you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked" is the best description of modern software engineering I've read in a while.

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      #53

      @alice @cwebber omg I just cackled

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      • emma@orbital.horseE emma@orbital.horse

        @ahltorp

        The phrase "valid uses" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.

        @benroyce@mastodon.social @pixelate @cwebber

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        #54

        @emma @ahltorp @cwebber The phrase heavy lifting is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.

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          #55

          @Dangerous_beans @thegrumpyenby @cwebber You don't believe the United Nations? What's wrong with *you*? Typical sighted person. Do the work. https://www.un.org/esa/socdev/enable/comp500.htm

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          • pixelate@tweesecake.socialP pixelate@tweesecake.social

            @emma @ahltorp @cwebber The phrase heavy lifting is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.

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            #56

            @pixelate @emma @ahltorp @cwebber

            Devin:

            nobody has a problem with the disabled community using AI

            i celebrate those uses. we celebrate those uses

            our complaints are about all the uses of AI that harm society

            you know that. you understand that difference

            so there is no need to fake a conflict that does not exist

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              #57

              @Dangerous_beans @thegrumpyenby @cwebber My screen reader read it, thank you.

              > Whereas the concept of a special regime for certain groups has been developed during the last few years by the UN the human rights and fundamental freedoms of marginalized and vulnerable people remain vastly underserved. Persons with disabilities are often affected by this lack of protection, as many of them suffer double or multiple discrimination, due to their disability, their age and social status, for instance.

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @pixelate @emma @ahltorp @cwebber

                Devin:

                nobody has a problem with the disabled community using AI

                i celebrate those uses. we celebrate those uses

                our complaints are about all the uses of AI that harm society

                you know that. you understand that difference

                so there is no need to fake a conflict that does not exist

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                #58

                @benroyce @emma @ahltorp @cwebber Did you read the part where I simply commented on how I use AI, and some one came at me for it?

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                • pixelate@tweesecake.socialP pixelate@tweesecake.social

                  @benroyce @emma @ahltorp @cwebber Did you read the part where I simply commented on how I use AI, and some one came at me for it?

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                  #59

                  @pixelate @emma @ahltorp @cwebber

                  what i saw was you defending your use of AI, and not indicating that you do that because you are disabled

                  after their remark, *then* you indicated that

                  that's miscommunication, not malice

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @pixelate @emma @ahltorp @cwebber

                    what i saw was you defending your use of AI, and not indicating that you do that because you are disabled

                    after their remark, *then* you indicated that

                    that's miscommunication, not malice

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                    #60

                    @benroyce @emma @ahltorp @cwebber Wait, are you not seeing the :blind: in my display name?

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                    • pixelate@tweesecake.socialP pixelate@tweesecake.social

                      @benroyce @emma @ahltorp @cwebber Wait, are you not seeing the :blind: in my display name?

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                      #61

                      @pixelate @emma @ahltorp @cwebber

                      yes

                      and you did not in your initial remark indicate you being blind was the reason for your AI use

                      "but that's obvious!"

                      ok. but can we at least say the initial conflict was about defending AI? and that people dislike that? and that if they put in the effort, they might be able to deduce why you are saying what you are saying. but this means the disagreement is simply about miscommunication and not malice?

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @pixelate @emma @ahltorp @cwebber

                        yes

                        and you did not in your initial remark indicate you being blind was the reason for your AI use

                        "but that's obvious!"

                        ok. but can we at least say the initial conflict was about defending AI? and that people dislike that? and that if they put in the effort, they might be able to deduce why you are saying what you are saying. but this means the disagreement is simply about miscommunication and not malice?

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                        #62

                        @benroyce @emma @ahltorp @cwebber Wait that's not obvious? Okay I think this is enough internet for the day, I'm gonna play Magic the Gathering Arena or something. Thank goodness for accessibility mods.

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                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                          @cwebber "you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked" is the best description of modern software engineering I've read in a while.

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                          #63

                          @alice @cwebber If that ever became my job I would just walk away and and let Claude bareback.

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                          • pixelate@tweesecake.socialP pixelate@tweesecake.social

                            @benroyce @emma @ahltorp @cwebber Wait that's not obvious? Okay I think this is enough internet for the day, I'm gonna play Magic the Gathering Arena or something. Thank goodness for accessibility mods.

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                            #64

                            @pixelate @emma @ahltorp @cwebber

                            all i am saying is that the world is a nicer place when you first look to see if there is miscommunication involved first, before seeing malice. there is also malice in the world, of course. but again, the point is to avoid agita

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                            • lrhodes@merveilles.townL lrhodes@merveilles.town

                              @cwebber Now if they could extrapolate from this to the fact that Reddit has a $60 million deal to let Google train on user submissions…

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                              #65

                              @lrhodes @cwebber

                              it's far worse than that

                              look at the age of this sub:

                              https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditSimulator/

                              11 years

                              there are improved models:

                              https://old.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/

                              7 years

                              #reddit is a pioneer in fake #bot engagement

                              the founders of reddit are on record saying 99% of the first userbase/ comments of reddit were all fakes:

                              https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/reddit-faked-its-first-users-resurfaced-video-shows-co-founder-alexis-ohanian-admitting-99-of-early-submissions-were-fabricated/articleshow/119263428.cms

                              reddit is full of bots. a lot of it is fake

                              enjoy reddit. i do

                              but know that you are in a sea of markov chain chatbots -> #GPT

                              and always have been

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                              • indigoparadox@mastodon.socialI indigoparadox@mastodon.social

                                @cwebber I really maintain LLMs are like the microwave. There are some narrow specific uses where it's good, but holy shit we're still in the "True Believers trying to make Thanksgiving dinner with them" phase.

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                                #66

                                @indigoparadox @cwebber This is it, this is the take. This.

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                                • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                                  @pinhman

                                  AI is not profitable. The companies lose money each time their product is used.

                                  The only people making money on this is the financial services sector trading stock & issuing huge loans on "possible, perhaps, maybe" future revenue AND the fossil fuel industry powering gas generators for data centers.

                                  The product is loathed and user acceptance doesn't match the hype.

                                  What sane business makes itself dependent on a supplier or vendor at high risk of going bankrupt?

                                  @cwebber

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                                  #67

                                  @Npars01 @cwebber An industry relying on potential bankruptcy? See Canadian agriculture.

                                  It’s gone from family farms that watched out and supported each other, to little corporate agricultural operations waiting for nearby farms to fail, to allow their expansion.

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                                    @pixelate @emma @ahltorp @cwebber

                                    all i am saying is that the world is a nicer place when you first look to see if there is miscommunication involved first, before seeing malice. there is also malice in the world, of course. but again, the point is to avoid agita

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                                    #68

                                    @benroyce @emma @ahltorp @cwebber I would like to apologize to everyone on this thread for assuming the worst of people, and adding my fire to an already hot topic.

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                                    • pinhman@humanwords.partyP pinhman@humanwords.party

                                      @Npars01 @cwebber An industry relying on potential bankruptcy? See Canadian agriculture.

                                      It’s gone from family farms that watched out and supported each other, to little corporate agricultural operations waiting for nearby farms to fail, to allow their expansion.

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                                      #69

                                      @pinhman @cwebber

                                      That is likely what heavily capitalized billionaires like Musk are hoping for; waiting for smaller AI corporations to get swallowed by bigger ones.

                                      He gains their customer base along with the acquisition.

                                      Or he could do another TikTok, convince Trump to force a sale to a crony under "national security".

                                      The end result being all human knowledge under the control of a handful of oligarchs & metered out predatorially, with end users never sure if AI answers are correct.

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                                      • T toomuchcoffee@mastodon.social

                                        @cwebber

                                        I started using Claude about 3 months ago for a personal project and I was pleasantly surprised that it nudged me in the direction of test driven design. It wanted me to build my test cases first. And it was willing to do the heavy lifting on building those test cases and on doing the documentation. Also the output that it gave was first rate.

                                        I truly believe that in the right environment Claude is a fantastic engineering assistant.

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                                        @TooMuchCoffee @cwebber Bruh, you would've been nudged toward TDD by sheer self-preservation as a sole maintainer of a codebase.

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                                        • lidsel@mastodon.gamedev.placeL lidsel@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          @TooMuchCoffee @cwebber Bruh, you would've been nudged toward TDD by sheer self-preservation as a sole maintainer of a codebase.

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                                          #71

                                          @lidsel @cwebber

                                          I am retired from 40 years of writing software. And I assure that the help Claude gives would have made my life easier.

                                          I am also an old Smalltalker, and very aware of Kent Beck's ideas, which Claude seems to embrace.

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