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The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization.

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  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

    The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

    But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

    I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

    EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

    EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

    varpie@peculiar.floristV This user is from outside of this forum
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    #61

    @cwebber The second link is dead, thankfully it is in the Wayback Machine: web.archive.org/web/20260827210321/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

      But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

      I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

      EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

      EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

      hvdsomp@w3c.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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      hvdsomp@w3c.social
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      #62

      @cwebber second link still does not work for me. server not found.

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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

        But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

        I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

        EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

        EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

        uriel@x.keinpfusch.netU This user is from outside of this forum
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        uriel@x.keinpfusch.net
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        #63

        Link is gone.

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        • iju@mastodon.socialI iju@mastodon.social

          @tribactam @notavi10 @cwebber

          And besides the point, but you may also recall how both film adaptations of Animal Farm swap the ending to something else, thus missing the point.

          The CIA-funded film from 1954 concludes the story by a new revolution to uphold the original ideals.

          The Hallmark film from 1999 shows a return to human-led administration as improvement from corrupt pig-led one (that was admired by neighbouring farms).

          Edit: there's a third one that apparently advocates anarchism.

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          tribactam@social.vivaldi.net
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          #64

          @iju @notavi10 @cwebber

          I agree. Maybe calling them stupid is missing the point - they are dangerous idealogues who, as you point out, always need a bogeyman.

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          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

            The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

            But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

            I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

            EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

            EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

            avandeursen@mastodon.acm.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #65

            @Marloezovic Iets voor NRC?

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

              But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

              I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

              EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

              EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

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              karlheinzhaslip@climatejustice.social
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              #66

              @cwebber Second link may be right, but which DNS services still link to noblogs.org? Might need a repost to pastebin or something.

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              • avandeursen@mastodon.acm.orgA avandeursen@mastodon.acm.org

                @Marloezovic Iets voor NRC?

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                #67

                @avandeursen Ik denk het wel, maar heb er nog niet op bij kunnen lezen helaas. Eerst de Meta schikking. Dank voor het doorgeven.

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                • dfx4509b@mas.toD dfx4509b@mas.to

                  @cwebber
                  > There could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                  - As I explained in my quote for this post, alt OSes are already being targeted too, the US is turning into NK, and worst-case, could be locked to a state intranet with its own Red Star OS, and MS is already laying the groundwork for this with their Windows 365 cloud desktop, the powers that be could just pay MS to make Windows 365 the state intranet OS and force it onto everyone.

                  There could be a time also when Linux and BSD PCs are targeted like alt Android phones are being targeted right now, assuming everyone isn't forced onto state-provided thin clients tied to a central government intranet first.

                  The noblogs link is now dead, btw.

                  jan@social.janantos.comJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #68

                  @dfx4509b @cwebber and the attack on #meshcore #meshtastic starts in 3,2,1…

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                  • jens@social.finkhaeuser.deJ jens@social.finkhaeuser.de

                    @wjmaggos Perhaps we've avoided becoming a Nazi bar by keeping conservative relatives away and focusing moderation on harassment rather than pursuing growth.

                    @cwebber

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                    #69

                    @jens

                    how did the web do it?

                    the Nazi bar analogy only works when their presence deters others. with decentralization and a lack of algos, that doesn't happen on the web. it won't happen here either.

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                    • iju@mastodon.socialI iju@mastodon.social

                      @tribactam @notavi10 @cwebber

                      Not stupid. Fascist regimes needs an enemy to use as a shorthand for power graps. You may remember how in Animal Farm every step away from egelitarian system was explained by need to stop infiltration by Snowball's¹ spies.

                      Meanwhile the regime's continuous efforts to bolster the farm against outside enemies (whi may or may not exist) turns the Farm into a hierarchial structure that doesn't differ in any important way from other farms.

                      _
                      ¹ a Trotsky expy

                      notavi10@critter.cafeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #70

                      @iju @tribactam @cwebber fascists use the demarcation of labels like terrorists to make sweeping changes against civil liberties; it is impossible to prove someone is a "member" of antifa because it isnt a things with members. its like how mao called for the excecution of capitalists or pinochet with "leftists" as if they were organized fifth column groups in these countries. all the A/I hackers need to do is stop using the name.

                      the goal is to create a chilling effect, but if thr A/I hackers use a different name each time, it becomes a cat and mouse game that the hackers will win

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                      • wjmaggos@liberal.cityW wjmaggos@liberal.city

                        @jens

                        how did the web do it?

                        the Nazi bar analogy only works when their presence deters others. with decentralization and a lack of algos, that doesn't happen on the web. it won't happen here either.

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                        jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
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                        #71

                        @wjmaggos The web didn't do it. It's currently consumed by fascist (funded and ideological) AI.

                        The web failed horribly at not becoming a Nazi bar.

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                        • dfx4509b@mas.toD dfx4509b@mas.to

                          @notavi10 @cwebber

                          Couldn't the Reich just seize domains they don't like?

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                          #72

                          @dfx4509b @cwebber thats what im saying, they can. but this method will not work to prevent anti-authoritarianism

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                          • jens@social.finkhaeuser.deJ jens@social.finkhaeuser.de

                            @wjmaggos The web didn't do it. It's currently consumed by fascist (funded and ideological) AI.

                            The web failed horribly at not becoming a Nazi bar.

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                            #73

                            @jens

                            the vast majority of the web is still not AI shit and while Nazis have always been allowed on the web, it has only been very recently that AI is a problem.

                            you're gonna argue that our conservative relatives should never have been allowed to use the same internet we do? that pushing them to instead use a web shared by fascists where our voices were not present would have been better for society?

                            the fedi doesn't just moderate harassment. it limits all speech that isn't progressive.

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                            • xarvos@outerheaven.clubX xarvos@outerheaven.club

                              is it just me or the noblogs link doesn’t load? (noblogs.org itself resolves for me but not the subdomain)

                              @cwebber@social.coop

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                              #74

                              @xarvos @cwebber Well it works for me. I'm using #OpenNic #DNS

                              https://opennic.org/

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                              • notavi10@critter.cafeN notavi10@critter.cafe

                                @iju @tribactam @cwebber fascists use the demarcation of labels like terrorists to make sweeping changes against civil liberties; it is impossible to prove someone is a "member" of antifa because it isnt a things with members. its like how mao called for the excecution of capitalists or pinochet with "leftists" as if they were organized fifth column groups in these countries. all the A/I hackers need to do is stop using the name.

                                the goal is to create a chilling effect, but if thr A/I hackers use a different name each time, it becomes a cat and mouse game that the hackers will win

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                                #75

                                @notavi10 @tribactam @cwebber

                                The point isn't to catch A/I, but to create a cat-and-mouse - game that allows destruction of civil liberties as desired.

                                The point of Snowball isn't that they were sending spies to infiltrate the farm, but by claiming they were doing so allowed population manipulation and control.

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                                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                  The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                                  But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                                  I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                                  EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                                  EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

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                                  #76
                                  @cwebber this is actually so fucked up i can't even begin to describe my feelings about it. like, legally probably even, i really shouldn't. but my one experience with this collective is that a guy whose common lisp fedi client i studied and made an issue on codeberg of had his personal site there. it's frightening to see this come across my feed.
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                                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                    The US has declared Autistici/Inventati, an Italian anarchist hacker (in the classic sense of the term) collective, a terrorist organization. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

                                    But what you really ought to read is this article about A/I's history, and what this means https://web.archive.org/web/20260828071449/https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10083/2

                                    I'm concerned that the US government is starting to identify decentralized media infrastructure as a threat to its survival. Repost information about this broadly, and if you have media contacts, inform them of counter-narratives; there could come a time where the fediverse, or any decentralized network infrastructure, is a target as well if we don't sound the alarms now.

                                    EDIT: I linked to the wrong page! The second link is now fixed 🙂

                                    EDIT 2: A/I's domains have been revoked! So added an archive.org link

                                    cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #77

                                    Autistici/Inventati's domains have now been revoked. I updated the link in the above post with a wayback machine copy.

                                    Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.

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                                      #78

                                      @cassiopeia @cwebber You need to first talk about how DNS works to explain parts of what ActivityPub is.

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                                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                        Autistici/Inventati's domains have now been revoked. I updated the link in the above post with a wayback machine copy.

                                        Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.

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                                        gettie@fedi.catto.garden
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                                        #79
                                        @cwebber that's why we should consider supporting projects like OpenNIC and building decentralized, grassroots infrastructure
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                                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                          Autistici/Inventati's domains have now been revoked. I updated the link in the above post with a wayback machine copy.

                                          Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.

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                                          #80

                                          @cwebber that is pretty crazy. any website a government doesn't like can just be removed from the Internet now apparently, simply by labeling it as terrorist propaganda

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