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  • yurkshirelad@mastodon.socialY yurkshirelad@mastodon.social

    @Vivaldi if you want a better web, don’t base your web browser on chromium. We need independent competition.

    benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #15

    @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

    this was an early design decision when things were less creepy

    it's not the end of the world

    and perhaps vivaldi can transition, but it's a huge ask, and you know it

    in the meantime stop being such a douchebag and show some appreciation for the post above

    instead of immediately launching into masturbating your ego over this endless endless "bUt I wAnT pErFeCt" that infests social media, and means absolutely nothing, this lowest common denominator empty whining

    petrichaos@mastodon.socialP h0w25@hachyderm.ioH 2 Replies Last reply
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    • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

      No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

      #AI #browser #technology #Google

      billbennett@mastodon.nzB This user is from outside of this forum
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      #16

      @Vivaldi this actually me want to try Vivaldi. Thanks @BobLefridge

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      • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

        No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

        #AI #browser #technology #Google

        lps@holos.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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        #17

        @Vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net bravo!!!!

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        • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

          No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

          #AI #browser #technology #Google

          catsalad@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #18

          @Vivaldi That's good to heard you won't cave into AI like the other browsers.

          What about my Vivaldi cat ear logo change? I think it would be a hit!! :3

          terryenglish@blob.catT flipper@mastodonapp.ukF euneuber@graz.socialE vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV paul@notnull.spaceP 5 Replies Last reply
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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

            this was an early design decision when things were less creepy

            it's not the end of the world

            and perhaps vivaldi can transition, but it's a huge ask, and you know it

            in the meantime stop being such a douchebag and show some appreciation for the post above

            instead of immediately launching into masturbating your ego over this endless endless "bUt I wAnT pErFeCt" that infests social media, and means absolutely nothing, this lowest common denominator empty whining

            petrichaos@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
            petrichaos@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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            #19

            @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi 💯 just be grateful and flexible..
            I appreciate Vivaldi's philosophy and efforts, even though I'm using Mullvad Browser as primary

            benroyce@mastodon.socialB 1 Reply Last reply
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            • jgg@qoto.orgJ jgg@qoto.org

              @Vivaldi

              Kudos for doing such an amazing job.

              I wish we were to have a truly independent search engine, free and with no AI nonsense.

              We can't have a web in our terms when the big search engines are getting us less and less genuine results each day, even these are buried by AI nonsense, and are soon to be scrapped.

              jamesnielsen@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #20

              @jgg
              For a private search enginge try startpage dot com
              Anonymous mode and AI optional.

              jgg@qoto.orgJ 1 Reply Last reply
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              • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                #AI #browser #technology #Google

                nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN This user is from outside of this forum
                nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #21

                @Vivaldi Awesome, sure wish I could run Vivaldi on #FreeBSD.

                bms48@mastodon.socialB paul@notnull.spaceP 2 Replies Last reply
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                • petrichaos@mastodon.socialP petrichaos@mastodon.social

                  @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi 💯 just be grateful and flexible..
                  I appreciate Vivaldi's philosophy and efforts, even though I'm using Mullvad Browser as primary

                  benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #22

                  @petrichaos @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

                  it infects social media

                  perfectionism, toxic idealism, purity

                  as an entitled basis to complain about every. goddamn. thing.

                  and always zero appreciation from these assholes shown, for the only thing we are ever going to get, from any entity in this world, on any topic:

                  progress

                  it's simply a basis for edgelord trolling on baseless malcontent

                  or it's a personality disorder: stunt vibing ego masturbation

                  it's a parasitical social interaction on us all

                  bms48@mastodon.socialB petrichaos@mastodon.socialP 2 Replies Last reply
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                  • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                    No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                    #AI #browser #technology #Google

                    gudenau@hachyderm.ioG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #23

                    @Vivaldi I'll try it out if it stops using Chrome as a base, but it's good to see that some browsers aren't jumping on this bandwagon of doom.

                    vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV 1 Reply Last reply
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                    • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                      No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                      #AI #browser #technology #Google

                      netzblockierer@tech.lgbtN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #24

                      @Vivaldi so basically like @torproject / Tor Browser since launch…

                      #Tor #TorBrowser

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                      • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                        No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                        #AI #browser #technology #Google

                        wafflesies@infosec.exchangeW This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #25

                        @Vivaldi now if your browser code was stable and relatively bug free we could talk about switching from brave
                        I'm not usually a free software extremist but outsourcing development to the community may make Vivaldi competitive with the likes of Firefox and brave

                        benroyce@mastodon.socialB 1 Reply Last reply
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                        • petesmom@kolektiva.socialP petesmom@kolektiva.social

                          @Vivaldi
                          Please make noai.duckduckgo a default search engine choice. I have to manually switch DDG every time I use it.

                          solitha@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #26

                          @Petesmom You can make it the default search engine, instead of having to manually switch every time.

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                          • jgg@qoto.orgJ jgg@qoto.org

                            @Vivaldi

                            Kudos for doing such an amazing job.

                            I wish we were to have a truly independent search engine, free and with no AI nonsense.

                            We can't have a web in our terms when the big search engines are getting us less and less genuine results each day, even these are buried by AI nonsense, and are soon to be scrapped.

                            intangiblesloth@mastodon.worldI This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #27

                            @jgg @Vivaldi noai.duckduckgo.com

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                            • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                              No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                              #AI #browser #technology #Google

                              cassandravert@indieweb.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #28

                              And we appreciate it.

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                              • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                                #AI #browser #technology #Google

                                csolisr@hub.azkware.netC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #29
                                I'd probably switch to you as soon as you stopped being proprietary software. Can't trust your browser to not be leaking data elsewhere until we can get proper source code to analyze it
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                                • petesmom@kolektiva.socialP petesmom@kolektiva.social

                                  @Vivaldi
                                  Please make noai.duckduckgo a default search engine choice. I have to manually switch DDG every time I use it.

                                  too_little_caffeine@dotnet.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #30

                                  @Petesmom @Vivaldi Add it yourself.

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                                  • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                    No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                                    #AI #browser #technology #Google

                                    ahau@tribe.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #31

                                    @Vivaldi One way or another, I will add my own team of small LLMs to any browsers. Whether your browser does or does not have AI in it, it will make no difference. I will replace the desktop of any OS using my AI centric browser app using a small team of small LLM running on llama.cpp and a bunch of MCP servers to make any browser "smart". A browser becomes a UI for my AI apps. No one can act against a big tidal wave.

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                                    • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                      No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                                      #AI #browser #technology #Google

                                      gokushrm@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #32

                                      @Vivaldi make it open source. I'll definitely switch ✌️

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

                                        this was an early design decision when things were less creepy

                                        it's not the end of the world

                                        and perhaps vivaldi can transition, but it's a huge ask, and you know it

                                        in the meantime stop being such a douchebag and show some appreciation for the post above

                                        instead of immediately launching into masturbating your ego over this endless endless "bUt I wAnT pErFeCt" that infests social media, and means absolutely nothing, this lowest common denominator empty whining

                                        h0w25@hachyderm.ioH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #33

                                        @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi his comment is still valid and you shouldn't attack him.

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                                        • ahau@tribe.netA ahau@tribe.net

                                          @Vivaldi One way or another, I will add my own team of small LLMs to any browsers. Whether your browser does or does not have AI in it, it will make no difference. I will replace the desktop of any OS using my AI centric browser app using a small team of small LLM running on llama.cpp and a bunch of MCP servers to make any browser "smart". A browser becomes a UI for my AI apps. No one can act against a big tidal wave.

                                          artharg@mastodon.nlA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #34

                                          @ahau @Vivaldi That is a fitting metaphor: AI as a big tidal wave.

                                          The proper response to big tidal waves is to seek higher ground and wait until the waters recede. Then you clean up the filth and debris that it has left everywhere and repair or rebuild what was damaged. In the end, you get to terms with the fact that some things and some people were irretrievably lost, and that some of the landscape has changed permanently.

                                          I’m quite sure that the current AI craze will go somewhat like that.

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