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  • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

    do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

    my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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    #36

    @b0rk my favourite was an early version of less(1), whose one-line synopsis was:

    less - better than more(1)

    Which it was, because you could go _backwards_... that was the first program I ever compiled from downloaded source.

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    • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

      do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

      my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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      #37

      I think my favourite man page example so far is this rsync man page (via @shnizmuffin) https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/rsync.1.html

      it gives examples BEFORE giving an exhaustive list of options!

      the synopsis just says "rsync [OPTION...] SRC... [DEST]" instead of giving you an exhaustive list of options like "-ABCFGHILOPRSTUWabcdefghiklmnopqrstuvwxy1%"!

      there's an "OPTION SUMMARY" section that gives you a 1-line summary of each option! (this feels SO SO much useful than the normal SYNOPSIS to me)

      (2/?)

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      • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

        do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

        my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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        #38

        @b0rk it's also my favourite hairstyle

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        • pounce@types.plP pounce@types.pl

          @b0rk i always think hier(7) is really neat

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          #39

          @pounce that's cool, I'd never seen that

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          • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

            @shnizmuffin what do you like about it? (also: you mean this one right? https://linux.die.net/man/1/rsync)

            i like that it takes a different approach to the SYNOPSIS and puts examples before the comprehensive list of all options, I haven't seen that a lot

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            #40

            @b0rk It leads with examples from most common to least common, and sorts its many options following similar logic.

            It's basically ...

            1. WTF am I looking at. (--verbose et al)
            2. Sensible defaults (--archive)
            3. How do I change one thing (--no-OPTION)
            4. Filepath stuff
            5. Link stuff
            6. Permission stuff
            7. File metadata stuff
            8. Config stuff
            9. Filter stuff
            10. Shit one person needed once
            11. --human-readable
            12. please don't run forever
            13. --version, --help

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            • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

              I think my favourite man page example so far is this rsync man page (via @shnizmuffin) https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/rsync.1.html

              it gives examples BEFORE giving an exhaustive list of options!

              the synopsis just says "rsync [OPTION...] SRC... [DEST]" instead of giving you an exhaustive list of options like "-ABCFGHILOPRSTUWabcdefghiklmnopqrstuvwxy1%"!

              there's an "OPTION SUMMARY" section that gives you a 1-line summary of each option! (this feels SO SO much useful than the normal SYNOPSIS to me)

              (2/?)

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              #41

              @b0rk @shnizmuffin if something needs a solid man page, it's probably rsync. 😄

              Destroyer of files.
              With great power comes great responsibility.

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              • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                #42

                @b0rk@jvns.ca i often work offline, so i like long and elaborate man pages that go into every absurd detail but also note in-program help mechanisms

                • nvim because it provides a jump start to :Tutor and :help quickref
                • zshall because it explains All the syntax
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                • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                  do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                  my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                  #43

                  @b0rk In the attention to detail category, the BUG detailed in the NetBSD sleep(1) man page is a favourite:

                  https://man.netbsd.org/sleep.1#BUGS

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                  • shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lolS shnizmuffin@toots.inbutts.lol

                    @b0rk It leads with examples from most common to least common, and sorts its many options following similar logic.

                    It's basically ...

                    1. WTF am I looking at. (--verbose et al)
                    2. Sensible defaults (--archive)
                    3. How do I change one thing (--no-OPTION)
                    4. Filepath stuff
                    5. Link stuff
                    6. Permission stuff
                    7. File metadata stuff
                    8. Config stuff
                    9. Filter stuff
                    10. Shit one person needed once
                    11. --human-readable
                    12. please don't run forever
                    13. --version, --help

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                    #44

                    @shnizmuffin i didn’t even notice the option sorting, that’s so good

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                    • ludonaut@timetheft.socialL ludonaut@timetheft.social

                      @thomastc @b0rk glad to help 🙂

                      i regularly use that page to show the young ones at work why ^H (Ctrl-H) is backspace, ^I is tab and ^[ is literally escape, it's just a flipped bit in ascii (which i suspect is the reason the columns are laid out like that)

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                      #45

                      @ludonaut @thomastc @b0rk Is my memory making up things, or did there used to be an ebcdic(7) page as well at some time?

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                      • pounce@types.plP pounce@types.pl

                        @b0rk i always think hier(7) is really neat

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                        #46

                        @pounce Oooooh, today I learned! @b0rk

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                        • nabnux@piaille.frN nabnux@piaille.fr

                          @b0rk the one I've used the most is `man bash`, because it's not just a man page, it's the documentation for the whole scripting language!

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                          #47

                          @nabnux @b0rk many years ago I was told to read man bash. I referenced it many more times over the years. Mostly when scripting loops.

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                          • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                            @thatandromeda I have a hard time with them too, that's why I've been thinking about this

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                            #48

                            @b0rk @thatandromeda Often I pipe the output of `man` into `less`, then try to search for something like -n, which returns way too many results (e.g. mentions of that option before its definition). I wonder if a better `man` could be made that would let me search through an *index* of options instead of doing a full-text search.

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                            • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                              do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                              my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                              #49

                              @b0rk Why were example usages shunned by many man pages I'll never understand.

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                              • technicaladept@techhub.socialT technicaladept@techhub.social

                                @nabnux @b0rk many years ago I was told to read man bash. I referenced it many more times over the years. Mostly when scripting loops.

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                                #50

                                @technicaladept @nabnux i think for bash specifically I might prefer to use the html bash reference manual to reference the docs https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bash.html (which I believe has the same content but with better formatting)

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                                • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                  I think my favourite man page example so far is this rsync man page (via @shnizmuffin) https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/rsync.1.html

                                  it gives examples BEFORE giving an exhaustive list of options!

                                  the synopsis just says "rsync [OPTION...] SRC... [DEST]" instead of giving you an exhaustive list of options like "-ABCFGHILOPRSTUWabcdefghiklmnopqrstuvwxy1%"!

                                  there's an "OPTION SUMMARY" section that gives you a 1-line summary of each option! (this feels SO SO much useful than the normal SYNOPSIS to me)

                                  (2/?)

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                                  #51

                                  @b0rk Special shout out to the official web address, since it's got hyperlinks on all the options:

                                  https://download.samba.org/pub/rsync/rsync.1

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                                  • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                    I think my favourite man page example so far is this rsync man page (via @shnizmuffin) https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/rsync.1.html

                                    it gives examples BEFORE giving an exhaustive list of options!

                                    the synopsis just says "rsync [OPTION...] SRC... [DEST]" instead of giving you an exhaustive list of options like "-ABCFGHILOPRSTUWabcdefghiklmnopqrstuvwxy1%"!

                                    there's an "OPTION SUMMARY" section that gives you a 1-line summary of each option! (this feels SO SO much useful than the normal SYNOPSIS to me)

                                    (2/?)

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                                    #52

                                    @b0rk @shnizmuffin Count on Apple to f*ck things up:

                                    NAME
                                    openrsync – synchronise local and remote files

                                    SYNOPSIS
                                    openrsync [-0468BCDEFHILOPRSTWVabcdefghiklmnopqrtuvxyz] [-e program]
                                    [-f filter] [--address=sourceaddr] [--append]
                                    [--backup-dir=directory] [--bwlimit=limit]
                                    [--cache | --no-cache] [--

                                    etc.

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                                    • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                      do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                                      my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                                      #53

                                      @b0rk

                                      false (8) is my favourite

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                                      • b0rk@social.jvns.caB b0rk@social.jvns.ca

                                        do you have a favourite man page? thinking of writing a short blog post exploring man pages and what makes a good one and I'd love some more examples

                                        my contribution: I think it's cool that `man curl` includes an example for every single option

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                                        #54

                                        @b0rk grindr (SORRY)

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                                        • zx@chaos.socialZ zx@chaos.social

                                          @b0rk

                                          I have a soft spot for "man ascii"

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                                          #55

                                          @zx @b0rk Neat! Except that the data is in rows instead of columns, that's hard to read. I understand why, it's just a pity; so I'll still keep my ascii table printout taped to the wall 😉

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