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  3. I was about to Have Opinions about the threats the US is making to Greenland, Denmark and Europe, then realised I have nothing useful to add, so I pressed Delete.

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  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

    It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

    datenhalde@nrw.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #61

    @CiaraNi well, you can always create the diminutive with -chen, tweaking it to contain an umlaut:

    Umläutchen

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    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

      @shivers @psneeze I always liked the fact that fada just means 'long', the plain practicality of it. I didn't know 'umlaut' has a similar trait. 'About sound'. That was a pleasing new-to-me thing to learn. GRMA

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      #62

      @CiaraNi
      Omlyd, direkte oversat

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      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

        @tml @hanscees This is interesting! I freely admit that I just use the word Umlaut casually for any old two dots I see over any old letter, the way I say 'astronomical' for things that are not even that big.

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        #63

        @CiaraNi @tml I had no idea about the plurality thing of an umlaut. But does that mean motorhead is plural? It is very laut and I would say even umlaut!

        https://youtu.be/Qa1wdUkeuvE

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          #64
          The one positive from the fascist's reign is that he has united the rest of the world in a way rarely seen.

          As a fellow threatenee, I feel close to Denmark in a way i never have.

          We have "elbows up"(a hockey reference) as our rallying cry. Do you have anything similar?
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          • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

            @CiaraNi @hanscees Sorry for being boring, but just felt like writing this: (And you probably know this already, but others might not.)

            Personally I use the term "umlaut" only to describe the phenomenon in German and Swedish (and possibly other Germanic languages) where the spelling of a word changes when it is inflected in plural so that to an "a" or "o" the two dots are added. Like "Apfel" (apple) (singular) -> "Äpfel" (apples) (plural), or in Swedish "man" (man) -> "män" (men).

            But not all instances of ä or ö in German or Swedish are umlauts. For instance "Käse" (cheese) in German or kärna (kernel) in Swedish are not plural, and are not some other inflection either of a corresponding word without the dots. There is no corresponding word "Kase" or "karna".

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            #65

            @tml @CiaraNi @hanscees

            And let's not forget that sometimes what looks like an umlaut is actually a diaeresis.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic)

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            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

              It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

              mlazz@aus.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #66

              @CiaraNi
              One of my many cheeky pleasures is to deliberately pronounce the umlauts in the band name "Mötley Crüe".

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              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                #67

                @CiaraNi I'm studying an 18th century German musician named Friedrich Dulon. I'm monolingual, and the U in his name has one, and I have no idea what it means for pronunciation.

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                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                  It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                  #68

                  @CiaraNi
                  cedilla would like a word.

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                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                    I was about to Have Opinions about the threats the US is making to Greenland, Denmark and Europe, then realised I have nothing useful to add, so I pressed Delete. Instead, here's a picture I took of a bridge because it had splendid umlauts.

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                    #69

                    @CiaraNi Me, too, regarding "nothing useful to add" — no matter how horrified I am.

                    Very cool umlauts!

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                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                      It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                      #70

                      @CiaraNi Nor in the French ë/ï/ü – the trema (l’accent tréma)

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                      • mlazz@aus.socialM mlazz@aus.social

                        @tml @CiaraNi @hanscees

                        And let's not forget that sometimes what looks like an umlaut is actually a diaeresis.
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic)

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                        #71

                        @mlazz @tml @CiaraNi why the name that reminds me of very thin stuff coming out of a colon. But we call this trema in Dutch
                        geëvenaard

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                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                          It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                          #72

                          @CiaraNi

                          It would be impossible to type on a US keyboard, not to talk about the crime known as 7-bit ASCII.

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                          • rvedotrc@tech.lgbtR rvedotrc@tech.lgbt

                            @CiaraNi

                            acuté
                            gràve
                            circûmflex
                            çedilla

                            I see what you mean, ümlaut would work so much better

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                            #73

                            @rvedotrc @CiaraNi There’s an actual haček in the word haček! (But that’s the Czech name for the diacritic, I think it’s called caron in English)

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                            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                              @shivers @psneeze I always liked the fact that fada just means 'long', the plain practicality of it. I didn't know 'umlaut' has a similar trait. 'About sound'. That was a pleasing new-to-me thing to learn. GRMA

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                              #74

                              @CiaraNi @shivers @psneeze Greetings from Germany!
                              It is not "about sound", rather "around sound" as in "something is around the sound" (not as in "surround sound", sadly).

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                              • id1om@mastodonapp.ukI id1om@mastodonapp.uk

                                @CiaraNi
                                cedilla would like a word.

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                                #75

                                @id1om I would like to have a word with these diacriticless diacritics

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                                • christinemalec@mstdn.caC christinemalec@mstdn.ca

                                  @CiaraNi I'm studying an 18th century German musician named Friedrich Dulon. I'm monolingual, and the U in his name has one, and I have no idea what it means for pronunciation.

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                                  #76

                                  @ChristineMalec My school German hangs on in snippets, but the pronunciation difference with or without an umlaut is long gone from my brain, so I don't know either. Maybe somebody else can help us here.

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                                  • mlazz@aus.socialM mlazz@aus.social

                                    @tml @CiaraNi @hanscees

                                    And let's not forget that sometimes what looks like an umlaut is actually a diaeresis.
                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic)

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                                    #77

                                    @mlazz @tml @hanscees Yes, diaeresis - the darling of the New Yorker

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                                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                      It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                                      #78

                                      @CiaraNi It really does seem like a severely missed opportunity.

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                                      • mlazz@aus.socialM mlazz@aus.social

                                        @CiaraNi
                                        One of my many cheeky pleasures is to deliberately pronounce the umlauts in the band name "Mötley Crüe".

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                                        #79

                                        @mlazz The kind of nice little pleasure that makes our personal worlds go around.

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                                        • christinemalec@mstdn.caC christinemalec@mstdn.ca

                                          @CiaraNi I'm studying an 18th century German musician named Friedrich Dulon. I'm monolingual, and the U in his name has one, and I have no idea what it means for pronunciation.

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                                          #80

                                          @ChristineMalec @CiaraNi

                                          ü is a sound we don't have in English. To make it, say a long E sound (the sound in "leek" or "wheel") but with your lips rounded as if you were saying a u sound. It's hard; you'll have to overcome programs your brain learned when you were a toddler to make the inside of your mouth try to make the 'e' sound while your lips are trying to make the 'u' sound. That combination makes the ü.

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