One of the top threads on the ClaudeAI subreddit right now: "I am done with this shit" https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1wm5c21/i_am_done_with_this_shit/
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@Dangerous_beans @thegrumpyenby @cwebber My screen reader read it, thank you.
> Whereas the concept of a special regime for certain groups has been developed during the last few years by the UN the human rights and fundamental freedoms of marginalized and vulnerable people remain vastly underserved. Persons with disabilities are often affected by this lack of protection, as many of them suffer double or multiple discrimination, due to their disability, their age and social status, for instance.
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@pixelate @emma @ahltorp @cwebber
Devin:
nobody has a problem with the disabled community using AI
i celebrate those uses. we celebrate those uses
our complaints are about all the uses of AI that harm society
you know that. you understand that difference
so there is no need to fake a conflict that does not exist
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@pixelate @emma @ahltorp @cwebber
yes
and you did not in your initial remark indicate you being blind was the reason for your AI use
"but that's obvious!"
ok. but can we at least say the initial conflict was about defending AI? and that people dislike that? and that if they put in the effort, they might be able to deduce why you are saying what you are saying. but this means the disagreement is simply about miscommunication and not malice?
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@pixelate @emma @ahltorp @cwebber
yes
and you did not in your initial remark indicate you being blind was the reason for your AI use
"but that's obvious!"
ok. but can we at least say the initial conflict was about defending AI? and that people dislike that? and that if they put in the effort, they might be able to deduce why you are saying what you are saying. but this means the disagreement is simply about miscommunication and not malice?
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@cwebber "you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked" is the best description of modern software engineering I've read in a while.
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@cwebber Now if they could extrapolate from this to the fact that Reddit has a $60 million deal to let Google train on user submissions…
it's far worse than that
look at the age of this sub:
https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditSimulator/
11 years
there are improved models:
https://old.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/
7 years
#reddit is a pioneer in fake #bot engagement
the founders of reddit are on record saying 99% of the first userbase/ comments of reddit were all fakes:
reddit is full of bots. a lot of it is fake
enjoy reddit. i do
but know that you are in a sea of markov chain chatbots -> #GPT
and always have been
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@cwebber I really maintain LLMs are like the microwave. There are some narrow specific uses where it's good, but holy shit we're still in the "True Believers trying to make Thanksgiving dinner with them" phase.
@indigoparadox @cwebber This is it, this is the take. This.
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AI is not profitable. The companies lose money each time their product is used.
The only people making money on this is the financial services sector trading stock & issuing huge loans on "possible, perhaps, maybe" future revenue AND the fossil fuel industry powering gas generators for data centers.
The product is loathed and user acceptance doesn't match the hype.
What sane business makes itself dependent on a supplier or vendor at high risk of going bankrupt?
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That is likely what heavily capitalized billionaires like Musk are hoping for; waiting for smaller AI corporations to get swallowed by bigger ones.
He gains their customer base along with the acquisition.
Or he could do another TikTok, convince Trump to force a sale to a crony under "national security".
The end result being all human knowledge under the control of a handful of oligarchs & metered out predatorially, with end users never sure if AI answers are correct.
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I started using Claude about 3 months ago for a personal project and I was pleasantly surprised that it nudged me in the direction of test driven design. It wanted me to build my test cases first. And it was willing to do the heavy lifting on building those test cases and on doing the documentation. Also the output that it gave was first rate.
I truly believe that in the right environment Claude is a fantastic engineering assistant.
@TooMuchCoffee @cwebber Bruh, you would've been nudged toward TDD by sheer self-preservation as a sole maintainer of a codebase.
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@TooMuchCoffee @cwebber Bruh, you would've been nudged toward TDD by sheer self-preservation as a sole maintainer of a codebase.
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@compfu @TooMuchCoffee @cwebber I know someone who decided this week that he wants to finally understand the deep magic, and asked Claude to help him be a kernel dev while never writing a single line of code for him.
Claude gave him real books to acquire and read, and he's currently working through understanding how registers work in assembly code, with a ready tutor to clarify anything needed.
So far they have not cut him off and demanded any money, but he does not necessarily expect that to happen, given the load on the servers is pretty small for this.
Evil is in how you use the thing. You can actually force it to make you smarter, if you're willing to become smarter (ie. Work).
@jpaskaruk @compfu @TooMuchCoffee @cwebber I hope this terrifying experiment results in us getting this kind of research assistance tools without all the bad, potentially civilization-ending baggage.
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@cwebber "you're just a condom between Claude and your production server getting fucked" is the best description of modern software engineering I've read in a while.
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@jpaskaruk @compfu @TooMuchCoffee @cwebber I hope this terrifying experiment results in us getting this kind of research assistance tools without all the bad, potentially civilization-ending baggage.
@lidsel Well, that's the key bit, I think - the actually good uses of this software, none of them require a datacentre.
Only investors require datacentres, along with slavery for all humankind. Investors are the only people excited about those things.
But computer programs that teach you how to use them by conversing with you in natural language, we don't need datacentres for that, at all.
