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  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

    🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

    This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
    https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

    Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

    This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

    #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

    It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

    More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

    azhog@social.vivaldi.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #9

    @Tutanota @jolla

    Quizá sea mejor acercarse a alternativas como Jolla.
    Open y Graphene no creo que quepan en la misma frase

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    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

      🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

      This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
      https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

      Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

      This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

      #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

      It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

      More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

      madduci@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      madduci@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      madduci@mastodon.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #10

      @Tutanota @GrapheneOS I would love to support GrapheneOS, but it works only on flagship phones. Cheap phones (< €300)seem to be out of scope

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      • madduci@mastodon.socialM madduci@mastodon.social

        @Tutanota @GrapheneOS I would love to support GrapheneOS, but it works only on flagship phones. Cheap phones (< €300)seem to be out of scope

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        magentamold@mastodon.social
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        #11

        @madduci

        You can buy a cheap used Pixel 8.
        This will give you 2 more years to wait for new motorola smartphones to enter the market and also see what will happen with new Pixels.

        @Tutanota @GrapheneOS

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        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

          🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

          This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
          https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

          Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

          This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

          #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

          It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

          More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

          hlrx@social.sneak.ovhH This user is from outside of this forum
          hlrx@social.sneak.ovhH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #12

          @Tutanota @GrapheneOS Perhaps it’s time to move on from the Android/iOS duopoly, isn’t it? #sailfishOS

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          • retrocomputing@mastodon.socialR retrocomputing@mastodon.social

            @Tutanota @GrapheneOS the only problem is that as of now GrapheneOS is only compatible with Pixel phones.
            From next year it will be compatible also with some select Motorola phones, not clear for now when and which ones.
            Short-term solution will be moving to some other Android-ish flavor (HyperOS, ColorOS, ...).
            Switching to iOS won't fix anything, as it's already where Google is going
            We definitely need a 3td alternative, soon.

            gregalotl@c.imG This user is from outside of this forum
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            #13

            @retrocomputing

            @Tutanota @GrapheneOS
            Need to persuade banks that their apps are safe to run in the non-Google sanctioned scenarios.

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            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

              🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

              This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
              https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

              Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

              This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

              #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

              It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

              More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

              narvod@framapiaf.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
              narvod@framapiaf.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
              narvod@framapiaf.org
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #14

              @Tutanota A shame Google went through with this... Yet not surprising coming from them. The openness of Android served them in the early days of Android to attract people, against big bad "Apple's locked down Iphone". Now it's in their way.
              I used to recommend Fdroid to friends and family. Happy #murena_eos user myself (never had a graphene compatible device to try it), but I can't imagine recommending flashing a ROM to just anyone, not everyone is ready to take that big a step.

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              • retrocomputing@mastodon.socialR retrocomputing@mastodon.social

                @Tutanota @GrapheneOS The very same term "side loading" makes me mad, it's just loading what you want on an OS you've paid for

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                markku@fosstodon.org
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                #15

                @retrocomputing @Tutanota @GrapheneOS
                Yeah, it used to be called, "installing a software"... 😄

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                • M markku@fosstodon.org

                  @retrocomputing @Tutanota @GrapheneOS
                  Yeah, it used to be called, "installing a software"... 😄

                  mcslibinas@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #16

                  @markku @retrocomputing @Tutanota @GrapheneOS also "third party apps". "SD card usage restricted to third party apps". No, evilgoogle, it's not a third party app, it's my file browser in my own SD card where evilandroid made bloatware folders.

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                  • madduci@mastodon.socialM madduci@mastodon.social

                    @Tutanota @GrapheneOS I would love to support GrapheneOS, but it works only on flagship phones. Cheap phones (< €300)seem to be out of scope

                    fasnix@littleone.littlefedi.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #17

                    @madduci@mastodon.social
                    Two years ago, I got myself a used Pixel 7A for around 160€.
                    Still works perfectly fine with GrapheneOS.

                    @Tutanota @GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social

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                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                      🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

                      This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
                      https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

                      Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

                      This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

                      #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

                      It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

                      More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

                      sounddrill@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
                      sounddrill@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #18

                      @Tutanota @GrapheneOS would be nice if you pushed actually cool well supported distributions like @LineageOS instead

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                      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                        🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

                        This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
                        https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

                        Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

                        This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

                        #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

                        It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

                        More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

                        the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT This user is from outside of this forum
                        the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT This user is from outside of this forum
                        the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com
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                        #19

                        @Tutanota

                        AOSP is just AP.
                        If one must ask Google to send them the source code then there's nothing open-source about it.

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                        • madduci@mastodon.socialM madduci@mastodon.social

                          @Tutanota @GrapheneOS I would love to support GrapheneOS, but it works only on flagship phones. Cheap phones (< €300)seem to be out of scope

                          atanasoff@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #20

                          @madduci @Tutanota @GrapheneOS I've bought Pixel 8a last year for around 300e and it works great. I think they will support 8a until 2030, you can check on their website until when they plan to support certain devices.

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                          • retrocomputing@mastodon.socialR retrocomputing@mastodon.social

                            @Tutanota @GrapheneOS the only problem is that as of now GrapheneOS is only compatible with Pixel phones.
                            From next year it will be compatible also with some select Motorola phones, not clear for now when and which ones.
                            Short-term solution will be moving to some other Android-ish flavor (HyperOS, ColorOS, ...).
                            Switching to iOS won't fix anything, as it's already where Google is going
                            We definitely need a 3td alternative, soon.

                            the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #21

                            @retrocomputing

                            Well, we do have some "3rd alternatives" such as Ubuntu Touch (shipped with Volla Phones) or Sailfish OS (shipped with Jolla Phone)

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                            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                              🚨 GOOGLE IS KILLING ANDROID FREEDOM. 🚨

                              This #DiDay we call on you to take action & sign the petition:
                              https://www.change.org/p/keep-android-open-stop-google-from-limiting-apk-file-usage

                              Because Google must not decide what you can & can't download on YOUR Android device.

                              This undermines one of Android’s defining features: the freedom to install software from wherever you choose. 😤

                              #Android is supposed to be open, & your phone should be yours → NOT GOOGLES.

                              It’s time to support open alternatives like @GrapheneOS ✊

                              More: https://tuta.com/blog/android-side-load-apps-google

                              guru435@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #22

                              https://urlgo.in/fnciz

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                              • retrocomputing@mastodon.socialR retrocomputing@mastodon.social

                                @Goodlucksil @Tutanota @GrapheneOS My understanding is that GrapheneOS' compatibility limits are set by the hardware, or lack thereof, not by some policies or intent.
                                Can you name a phone OS alternative that can be used right now for your everyday phone?

                                marcellinusme@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #23

                                @retrocomputing @Goodlucksil @Tutanota @GrapheneOS
                                Along with around 100,000 others, I use the deGoogled Android /e/OS. Sent from my new Murena Gigaset GS6.
                                https://e.foundation/e-os/

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                                • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

                                  @retrocomputing

                                  Well, we do have some "3rd alternatives" such as Ubuntu Touch (shipped with Volla Phones) or Sailfish OS (shipped with Jolla Phone)

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                                  #24

                                  @The_Universality Indeed, still a very short list of compatible phones unfortunately.
                                  To make a difference we need broad compatibility, enabling phones with low price tags,.
                                  Android and iOS set the bar quite high, people expect lots of features to just considering changing something that "just works" for them, not to mention the price point.
                                  Also most people aren't technically savvy, so don't understand - hell, even care about - the privacy implications of their choices.
                                  But I'm digressing..

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                                  • retrocomputing@mastodon.socialR retrocomputing@mastodon.social

                                    @The_Universality Indeed, still a very short list of compatible phones unfortunately.
                                    To make a difference we need broad compatibility, enabling phones with low price tags,.
                                    Android and iOS set the bar quite high, people expect lots of features to just considering changing something that "just works" for them, not to mention the price point.
                                    Also most people aren't technically savvy, so don't understand - hell, even care about - the privacy implications of their choices.
                                    But I'm digressing..

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                                    #25

                                    @retrocomputing Indeed. Those have a long way to go.

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