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No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

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  • jgg@qoto.orgJ jgg@qoto.org

    @Vivaldi

    Kudos for doing such an amazing job.

    I wish we were to have a truly independent search engine, free and with no AI nonsense.

    We can't have a web in our terms when the big search engines are getting us less and less genuine results each day, even these are buried by AI nonsense, and are soon to be scrapped.

    intangiblesloth@mastodon.worldI This user is from outside of this forum
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    #27

    @jgg @Vivaldi noai.duckduckgo.com

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    • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

      No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

      #AI #browser #technology #Google

      cassandravert@indieweb.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #28

      And we appreciate it.

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      • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

        No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

        #AI #browser #technology #Google

        csolisr@hub.azkware.netC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #29
        I'd probably switch to you as soon as you stopped being proprietary software. Can't trust your browser to not be leaking data elsewhere until we can get proper source code to analyze it
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        • petesmom@kolektiva.socialP petesmom@kolektiva.social

          @Vivaldi
          Please make noai.duckduckgo a default search engine choice. I have to manually switch DDG every time I use it.

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          #30

          @Petesmom @Vivaldi Add it yourself.

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          • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

            No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

            #AI #browser #technology #Google

            ahau@tribe.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #31

            @Vivaldi One way or another, I will add my own team of small LLMs to any browsers. Whether your browser does or does not have AI in it, it will make no difference. I will replace the desktop of any OS using my AI centric browser app using a small team of small LLM running on llama.cpp and a bunch of MCP servers to make any browser "smart". A browser becomes a UI for my AI apps. No one can act against a big tidal wave.

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            • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

              No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

              #AI #browser #technology #Google

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              #32

              @Vivaldi make it open source. I'll definitely switch ✌️

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

                this was an early design decision when things were less creepy

                it's not the end of the world

                and perhaps vivaldi can transition, but it's a huge ask, and you know it

                in the meantime stop being such a douchebag and show some appreciation for the post above

                instead of immediately launching into masturbating your ego over this endless endless "bUt I wAnT pErFeCt" that infests social media, and means absolutely nothing, this lowest common denominator empty whining

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                #33

                @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi his comment is still valid and you shouldn't attack him.

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                • ahau@tribe.netA ahau@tribe.net

                  @Vivaldi One way or another, I will add my own team of small LLMs to any browsers. Whether your browser does or does not have AI in it, it will make no difference. I will replace the desktop of any OS using my AI centric browser app using a small team of small LLM running on llama.cpp and a bunch of MCP servers to make any browser "smart". A browser becomes a UI for my AI apps. No one can act against a big tidal wave.

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                  #34

                  @ahau @Vivaldi That is a fitting metaphor: AI as a big tidal wave.

                  The proper response to big tidal waves is to seek higher ground and wait until the waters recede. Then you clean up the filth and debris that it has left everywhere and repair or rebuild what was damaged. In the end, you get to terms with the fact that some things and some people were irretrievably lost, and that some of the landscape has changed permanently.

                  I’m quite sure that the current AI craze will go somewhat like that.

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                  • h0w25@hachyderm.ioH h0w25@hachyderm.io

                    @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi his comment is still valid and you shouldn't attack him.

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                    #35

                    @H0W25 @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

                    his comment is utterly invalid

                    perfectionism is for immature losers

                    and i will attack him for it, because it's the dreariest lamest shit. it's the toilet of social media. whiny shitbags endlessly complaining because we haven't achieved purity. never a kind word for good progress, good effort, positive statements

                    i despise these entitled karens, and they are legion

                    anything else i can help you with today?

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                    • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

                      @Vivaldi That's good to heard you won't cave into AI like the other browsers.

                      What about my Vivaldi cat ear logo change? I think it would be a hit!! :3

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                      #36
                      @catsalad @Vivaldi
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                      • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                        No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                        #AI #browser #technology #Google

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                        #37

                        @Vivaldi Vivaldi needs to remove the api exposing battery level

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                        • wafflesies@infosec.exchangeW wafflesies@infosec.exchange

                          @Vivaldi now if your browser code was stable and relatively bug free we could talk about switching from brave
                          I'm not usually a free software extremist but outsourcing development to the community may make Vivaldi competitive with the likes of Firefox and brave

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                          #38

                          @wafflesies @Vivaldi

                          is Brave still full of crypto shit?

                          that's a bigger turn off for me

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                          • cavyherd@wandering.shopC cavyherd@wandering.shop

                            @Petesmom @Vivaldi

                            Seconded.

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                            #39

                            @cavyherd @Petesmom @Vivaldi Thirded

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                            • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                              No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                              #AI #browser #technology #Google

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                              #40

                              @Vivaldi Excellent. Must try it out.

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @H0W25 @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

                                his comment is utterly invalid

                                perfectionism is for immature losers

                                and i will attack him for it, because it's the dreariest lamest shit. it's the toilet of social media. whiny shitbags endlessly complaining because we haven't achieved purity. never a kind word for good progress, good effort, positive statements

                                i despise these entitled karens, and they are legion

                                anything else i can help you with today?

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                                #41

                                @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi You can help the community by stopping insulting random people around the fediverse. That behavior can look pretty toxic. If someone is doing it badly, insulting them doesn't make you better.

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                                • h0w25@hachyderm.ioH h0w25@hachyderm.io

                                  @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi You can help the community by stopping insulting random people around the fediverse. That behavior can look pretty toxic. If someone is doing it badly, insulting them doesn't make you better.

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                                  #42

                                  @H0W25 @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

                                  i'm calling out their toxicity

                                  "no, you!" is not the genius argument you think it is my best friend

                                  i will certainly not stop calling out this personality disorder of "demand perfect, never be supportive of good work and positive effort" whiny useless shit

                                  you certainly do not have to like that

                                  you are free to mute, block, ignore, etc to your heart's desire

                                  and so welcome to mastodon, and enjoy your stay

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                                  • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                    No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                                    #AI #browser #technology #Google

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                                    #43

                                    @Vivaldi

                                    I'm only here for Four Seasons jokes.

                                    so far I've seen none.

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @H0W25 @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

                                      i'm calling out their toxicity

                                      "no, you!" is not the genius argument you think it is my best friend

                                      i will certainly not stop calling out this personality disorder of "demand perfect, never be supportive of good work and positive effort" whiny useless shit

                                      you certainly do not have to like that

                                      you are free to mute, block, ignore, etc to your heart's desire

                                      and so welcome to mastodon, and enjoy your stay

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                                      #44

                                      @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi That person just asked to change their browser engine to something other than Chromium. I don't agree at all, but it's an opinion, while you are attacking his opinion like we were on Twitter. We don't do that here, and yeah, I can block and mute you, as many people can and will do if you keep up this behavior. Welcome to the fediverse also, but stop being so toxic and telling people to just block/mute you. Be constructive and positive. Thanks.

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                                      • h0w25@hachyderm.ioH h0w25@hachyderm.io

                                        @benroyce @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi That person just asked to change their browser engine to something other than Chromium. I don't agree at all, but it's an opinion, while you are attacking his opinion like we were on Twitter. We don't do that here, and yeah, I can block and mute you, as many people can and will do if you keep up this behavior. Welcome to the fediverse also, but stop being so toxic and telling people to just block/mute you. Be constructive and positive. Thanks.

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                                        #45

                                        @H0W25 @YurkshireLad @Vivaldi

                                        in this life

                                        we are tolerant, except to the intolerant

                                        we are sensitive, except to the insensitive

                                        we are nonviolent, except to the violent

                                        etc

                                        and we are not toxic, except to the toxic

                                        if you are not familiar with the Vivaldi account, or other major accounts, they attract this sort of endless pit of pathetic reply guys: they fill your screen with harsh whiny demands for perfection

                                        never any appreciation

                                        they are toxic shit

                                        and i will call them out on it

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                                        • vivaldi@social.vivaldi.netV vivaldi@social.vivaldi.net

                                          No, in case you wonder, we haven't changed our minds.

                                          #AI #browser #technology #Google

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                                          #46

                                          @Vivaldi Grazie.

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